Is it possible to be a achieving academician, without being an autistic mess?

By autistic mess, I'm talking about blissfull social unawareness.

The kind of shit that pushes people to do this kind of shit
You'd think people with powerful reasoning skills would be able to pick up social cues faster than any other individual. But it's not the case. Instead, they become social parias, known as 'nerds' or 'dorks'.

Why is it that academia makes people completely socially retarded and emotionally stunted?

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Social charm is an ability not learned from a text book but rather from real world situations.

Introverts would spend less time interacting with others and perhaps would have a stunted sense of charm.

There is also the fact that intellectualism might bore most social butterflies.

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You have it backwards.

These men and women are not socially retarded.

The "normals" are retarded and conforming to their favored social protocol causes intelligent minds to either suppress their intellect, for the sake of the cattle, which usually comes off as awkward unless they are especially practiced at this (I don't know why anyone would want to be), or they come off like self-aggrandizing jackasses whose sentences can't be understood by the troglodytes with whom they are trying to fit in. This ultimately results in their marginalization and labeling.

I'm just spit balling here, but, c'mon, apply your mind a little here and it is obvious why the men and women at the top of Academia don't fit in with the herd. Their interests are completely ill-aligned.

Note: The tattoos are not a product of success in academics. They are a product of not taking the time to understand the philosophical and anthropological implications of tattoos, and, thus, being susceptible to the meme.

Your first thread sucked and so does this

I think social ability correlates positively with intelligence. Too bad I'm a complete social retard, doesn't reflect well on my intelligence either..

Having oscillated between both shut-in turbonerd and an outgoing social person, I realized something quite interesting. You actually become dumber when you start going out and dedicating your brain's processing power towards simulating social conversations. Every time I went through my "social" phase, I lost the ability to think as deeply as I used to and I would just sit and try to push myself to reach the same conclusions I did about some topics, but it was impossible - my brain just couldn't do it anymore. And I was actually very conscious about that, I was really trying to think as logically as I used to, but it simply didn't work, while on the other hand I didn't have to think about social interaction anymore and it was pretty much automatized.

And then, depression hits and the cycle throws me into isolation for two years. Suddenly, I can now think as deeply as I could once, but I can no longer automatize the social interactions and my brain gets clogged up with too many thoughts. I actually developed minor stuttering, humor disappeared and I had to think twice as much to say something. It was quite mindblowing to me the first time it happened and I started believing that I might have legit autism. And then I started going out again - social interactions became automatized, I became funny and I always had something to say. On the other hand, I became what is in my definition "retarded" - I couldn't come up with anything at all.

There are theories for the consciousness that claim that it evolved right after speech as a tool for simulating social conversations, as being too primal and fucking up what you say may have resulted in exclusion and certain death. Additionally, females always prefer the most social mate above any other, so there's that as well. Maybe that's an explanation for why such things happen as my blog above, or why almost all of the scientists are social retards while logical geniuses, as opposed to the social geniuses who are logical retards.

It is definitely possible, at the university I did my undergrad/masters in maths at there were plenty of normal, sociable people doing masters/PhDs.

That being said, a lot of people were very socially awkward (especially postgrads) but I think this is due to lack of socialisation / lack of effort to improve social skills rather than the inability to socialise whatsoever.

DESU, I think that the social retarded scientific is just a modern conception pushed by Hollywood

>and I started believing that I might have legit autism.
You do. I guarantee it.

>Why is it that academia makes people completely socially retarded and emotionally stunted?
I think it's pretty obvious.

>be little kid in elementary school
>like reading on your own time
>be interested in science
>some assholes constantly barrage you with insults like "haha you're a fucking nerd!"
>never make (normal) friends
>never have the opportunity to learn how to socialize because nobody wants to talk to you
>assholes come back to make fun of you for being "so quiet"
>just give up and isolate yourself from the rest of the world, hoping that your books will be enough to leave you fulfilled
>be same little kid 15 years later
>maybe have made a few acquaintances and learned how to talk to people, but the damage has been done. Every day you struggle with the simplest social interactions because you hold a belief that everyone is secretly judging you.

That is pretty much what happened to me refering to the cycle between introversion and extroversion, except being depressed completely cured my autism and made me more hard-workîg and accueate in my reasoning.

You both seem like major brainlets. Not understanding social marks like actually socializing when it's time to and leaving the loner hobbies at home whennobody can judge you is quite the proof that you cunts are unaware and think with your asses. Being physically unappealing doesn't help either.

p-pls no bully ;-;

For me it's the other way around. Being good socially ruined my academic ambitions. In uni I spent too much time going out and having fun with other people, because of this I spent too little time studying...

Even though I passed the math and physics classes, I didn't pass the "learn by heart" classes like management science/chemistry/...

In the end I got a nice job without having a degree (project manager), but I suspect I'm paid less than the other project managers, who do have a degree.

So yea, that sucks. I wish I was a bigger sperg in uni, I'd be making more money now for doing the same amount of work.

newton was one of the most high functioning autistic to have ever lived. if you read his bio you'll see he was obviously autistic, especially the way he handled hooke and leibniz.

This. I do fine for myself. Top marks in my courses, read my textbooks and still have a gf with top ass and personality

Im sure you guys just project these inadequacy thoughts and feelings onto yourself, and that may account for your social problems, if any.

I find most of my professors are strong people, physically fit or at least value excercise and fitness, have great personalities, value hard work and are married. It just takes strength of character. Im sure the true social autists are a minority of the Veeky Forums population.

Except for computer science. I dont know whats wrong with them. Literal bronies in the comp sci dept at school, and I'm not even memeing

>Im sure you guys just project these inadequacy thoughts and feelings onto yourself, and that may account for your social problems, if any.

No need to project when you're inadequate.

>Im sure the true social autists are a minority of the Veeky Forums population.

>mfw

>Except for computer science. I dont know whats wrong with them. Literal bronies in the comp sci dept at school, and I'm not even memeing

Computer science attracts the PC nerds who isolate themselves in their spare time. It's no wonder they're aspies.

>"WOOO YEAH"
>"C'mon man you've got to lighten up, here have a beer"
>"WOOO YEAH *RANDOM LOUD SOUNDS*"

Admit it, socializing is boring. Even normie jokes are boring. Inb4 *tips fedora*.

>still have a gf with top ass and personality
lies.

>Reducing social interaction to dumb archetypes seen in popular movies

Please. Don't do that.

Other way around, people who are socially and emotionally stunted are more likely to enter academia.

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Movies?
Nigger, have you ever been to a party?

They suck dick lol everyone just gets drunk and yells WOOOO YEAH FUCK
while they grind on sluts
Then they take them back, fuck them, and worryingly get tested for STDs (or don't and spread them)

Super fulfilling to be a normie

It's related to logic vs intuition.

I am aspie while surrounded by my bosses at work, even though I'm smarter than them and they admit it.
I'm just extra careful around them, making me seem like a retarded shut-in instead of having heated conversations.


But I don't want to risk my job.
This has happened in many different jobs. I'm very careful, never say anything that could damage me in the long term... and the idiotic people may think I'm retard. I'm talking about people in human resources, secretaries, etc.


Meanwhile my coworkers think I'm great and I do great in non-stressful or potentially damaging environments.

so... who is this bitch?

...

Trap

>tfw in CS and Math at a good tech school

Math classes seem to have friendlier people who are pretty tight with one another in the field, but they sort of come off as awkward when they start to stay in their math bubbles, which seems only natural since you need to really be immersed in the bubble to be decent

CS people, on the other hand, are either literal autists or social butterflies.. the autists usually aren't the smart ones either, but the gamer/pc builder type.. the socially adjusted ones aim for high academics and competitive internships but also balance life in general

You can have a balance between the two, that means mediocrity in both areas. I suggest you keep sticking with your studies until you get a job and switch your priorities around.

Ho. Ly. Shit.

Mind blown mate.


Is this video trying to say that people in academia are geniuses?

She's a random 16 years old I found on a site.

Stop memeing please. This state of mind is damaging students worldwide.

Nah m8

Oh, i have reverse autism in that case.

In my opinion there are two kinds of high achieving academicians:
1) Genius type
2) Generally they might not be the absolute top scientists, but they understand academia politics, can manage other scientists.
I don't know if you've ever been to any academic gathering, but 95% of scientists during coffee breaks would very easily interact about their work or just joke around.
It is not hard (if you are not autistic) to pick up social cues, it might be harder to play along if you are not giving a shit cause it doesn't really matter to you, because you find other ways to validate yourself.

Academics aren't smart.

Again. This is not you being smarter than anyone else this is you thinking you are smarter than others. Other people sense this and get offended because your modesty is false and is just an attempt to cover up your arrogance.

If you're smart, you should be making tons of money for your company of even better for yourself. Since you arent- people just see you as a deluded arrogant prick.

Stop evaluating your worth by how well you do on exams. No one in the real world cares how good you are at memorizing things. Put your money where your mouth is.

Thanks for the info, brainlet.

yes

Interesting. What is your field of study? There's been plenty of people (me included) in my bio programs that manage to conduct thorough research and also interact in normal society. Maybe the people you were trying to go out and be social with were exceptionally degenerate. Wouldn't expect that to alter your own cognitive abilities though.

>bio programs
Normies with lab coats

This
> not having capacity for both
Don't reproduce

Bump out of interest.

He's what we refer as a brainlet.

>is to smart too be not autistic
>still a virgin
lol nice living you got there

Man, why does other people sexual interaction bother you so much?

Are you virgin?

>Are you virgin?
This. People who are bothered that other people are getting sex are often resentful that other males are getting more attention from females than they are.

t. resentful virgin

> learn by heart
> chemistry

You didn't pass chemistry because you thought it was learn by heart.

>By autistic mess, I'm talking about blissfull social unawareness.The kind of shit that pushes people to do this kind of shit →You'd think people with powerful reasoning skills would be able to pick up social cues faster than any other individual. But it's not the case. Instead, they become social parias, known as 'nerds' or 'dorks'.Why is it that academia makes people completely socially retarded and emotionally stunted?

this is the kind of thinking that makes your average uneducated working stiff feel better about their lives. Its tough to come to grips with being inferior so it is comforting to imagine that people smarter than you are defective in some way.