I'm about 450 pages in, using it as kind of a nosedive into analysis. But it seems like allot of people on the internet think Spivak is "advanced" material or some shit. I thought this was an introductory book?
Can any math major tell me what "level" this book is on? I assumed 1
Leo Mitchell
Rudin's Principles
Charles Lewis
Its very basic material but some of the problems are very challenging. Overall its about the same difficulty as Rudin in terms of problem difficulty but of course Rudin is more abstract and formal.
Jayden Brooks
Honors level for calculus Remedial level for analysis
Dylan Turner
It's an awful book precisely because it attempts to be both a Calculus book and Analysis book at the same time, yet fails to be either. Courant and John is a much superior alternative, although a lot harder.
Ethan Martin
Theres rather minimal difference. Spivak is really only missing a referal to topological structures that are all pretty trivial to comprehend.
Connor Torres
Where should I look to do review/practice problem for all calcs?
Asher Clark
Stewart's Calculus or Paul's Online Notes
Samuel Wilson
In my uni, spivack is really the norm when teaching calculus (except for C.S. Brainlets who don't even have calculus courses lol). Though most teachers recommend to look on other textbooks for reviewing concepts. The thing is, spivack problems are pretty challenging and involve proofs which many professors here prefer we learn over pure application. However, if you actually try to understand the underlying concepts and skills this sort of treatment gives you, application/crunching problems will come naturally and quite easily. Though it's always wise to keep practicing.
Grayson Morgan
> Courant and John
Holy shit. Fucking THANK YOU
I thought Spivak was the gold standard but I'm a few pages into this and I think I'm gonna drop Spivak for the time being. This seems much more useful in real world terms.
Leo Reyes
one thing I noticed about this book is the use of "her" and "she" when referring to a third person.
what is this? cuckulus?
Zachary Flores
Holy kek, Keith Devlin does this as well. The preface of They Joy of Sets cracked me up. Kuck Devlin.
David Gray
>Broof.
Cooper Lopez
>assuming someone's gender Binned.
Logan Garcia
He assumes the reader is cis-gender. I am triggered.
Jason Davis
This is what differentiates good math books from the bad math books. You can tell Spivak is a cuck about 4 chapters in. Reading any further than that you're effectively prepping the bull subconsciously, permanently affecting your abilities. I legitimately believe this.
Logan Bailey
Hello there fellow U of T person.
Michael Flores
He should've added, for now on you can refer to this classification as spivak pronouns.
Blake Sanders
I'm assuming he's just trying to cover his ass in case some feminist cunts get triggered and try to sue him for writing "he"
Matthew Russell
Can someone here elaborate on the substantial difference between calculus and analysis? In Italy we only have analysis because of strong tradition in the field, I guess calculus is a part of analysis but I'm just imagining.
Julian Fisher
Briefest way I can put it is calculus is analysis when the only space you consider is R^n
Benjamin Campbell
As I understand it calculus is basically just differentiation and integration. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mason Price
Some limits too Basically calculus is shut up and calculate, whereas analysis trys to build up ideas from simpler ideas
Angel Evans
In europe you call both Calculus and Analysis by "Analysis". That doesn't mean it is.
Difference: After taking a first course in analysis you should understand the concepts of compacity, its equivalence to closed/bounded, lipschitz functions, uniform continuity, etc etc.
It's really not that. Everything I said applies to R^n and you won't see it in any calculus class. Neither will you see R^n-specific things like inner product inequalities, equivalence of all norms, etc.
If you're trying to learn calculus Spivak is the best you can get, and it's supposed to be hard. If you're trying to learn analysis, Spivak isn't going to cut it, and you're better off reading a real analysis book. I recommend Terence Tao's Analysis I. Very light and friendly, information-dense, and intended to guide newcomers into math (it's still going to be hard).
Oliver Kelly
It depends on how on depth your calc course was. But in many cases calculus is just a way to learn a collection of methods to solve problems dealing with change and other shit like that. In some cases, you take something pretty close to analysis (that means you construct the reals and go from there trying to prove everything you can), but still focus in learning the methods. Or some profesors literally teach analysis, they just never mentioning that what you already proven is valid for other topological/vector/metric/inner product spaces because they don't want to be nagged by the faculty department. But to be concise, calculus mainly deals with the way to solve these sort of problems while analysis is s way to rigorously construct everything you use in calculus (that doesn't mean analysis is useless, but your motivation for studying it shouldn't be purely pragmatic).
Hope this helps.
Chase Green
*rigorously construct and generalise. The latter is important because some proofs don't eveb mention the fact that you are using the reals and work for other fields or vector spaces.
Cameron Long
i hope this isn't ironic
Justin Walker
Stewarts calculus if you don't know calculus, if you do there are other advanced calculus textbooks.
Hunter Moore
I didn't know any calculus before starting Spivak. Steward has shit reviews.