What do ya'll guys think of Coleridge?
What do ya'll guys think of Coleridge?
Christopher Lewis
David Harris
interesting and certainly has his moments, but overall second tier among the romantics. akin to byron with uneven body of work, but i think he peaks lower/less consistently than byron
Ayden Smith
>Wordsworth
>Shelley
Power Gap
>Keats
>Tennyson
>Coleridge
>Blake
Huge Gap
>Byron
Lucas Peterson
Highest peaks of romantic poets, but by far the least consistent.
Wyatt Howard
>atheism mcveganincest
>#2
Hudson Jenkins
Shelley massively higher than Blake and Tennyson is a bold opinion: have you read the Prophetic Poems - Jerusalem or Milton especially - or Idylls of the King?
imo any of those three are far superior to anything Shelley ever wrote
I wouldn't rate Byron that low either, Childe Harold's Pilgrimage is good.
Agree on Wordsworth being top though
Joseph Allen
Why are you putting Tennyson with the Romantics? He's a Victorian
Samuel Ortiz
at his best i tend to rank Wordsworth at the top, but he can be pretty inconsistent. Overall he is my favourite poet though. One of his poems that sticks out in my mind is the one about the old man who would visit a lady's house in the woods evey couple of years, and when he goes there in his old age it's in ruins and a man tells him the story of how tragedy struck the household and the entire family died
Adrian Rogers
>reading poetry
Matthew Moore
>shitposting
Ayden Baker
If he didn't get hooked on opium, he could have been much better.
Kubla Khan is probably the greatest poem ever written though.
Austin Bailey
prefer his daughter's novel
Joseph Davis
I agree with the general opinion that Coleridge is too uneven to be a great poet: when he's good, he's very very good (Kubla Khan is the mission statement of the Romantic movement), but he rarely seems to have the inspiration or craft of a true poet, as if it was not his natural calling. That said, his Conversation Poems are sensational, the final stanza of Frost at Midnight is just about the most beautiful sentence written in English, and I love Fears in Solitude and The Nightingale. Sometimes Coleridge can come out of nowhere and knock you for six. There's a wonderful earnestness in his best stuff. Btw The Rhime of the Ancient Mariner is the most overrated poem ever written, ballad metre is annoying and Coleridge mangles the piece by tacking on a jarring homily at the end.
I'd put him around where Byron is, below Shelley, Wordsworth and Keats. Blake I can't really categorise.
Cameron Murphy
He beautifully explained what history is one of the most beautiful and precise definitions possible:.
"a lantern on the stern, which shines only on the waves behind us.”.
Full text:
“If men could learn from history, what lessons it might teach us. But passion and party blind our eyes, and the light which experience gives us is a lantern on the stern, which shines only on the waves behind us.”
Regarding his whole body of work, I agree with:
, specially regarding Frost at Midnight.
Coleridge is too volatile, but when he shines only the sun rivals him
Austin Gutierrez
Yeesh.
>Blake
>Keats
>Shelley
>Coleridge
>Wordsworth
>Byron
Andrew Baker
Thanks user. Coleridge was probably a better literary critic and thinker than pure poet. That quote reminds me of Hegel's "the owl of Minerva spreads its wings only after the falling of the dusk".
John Hughes
frost at midnight is hnnnng
good taste senpais.
Austin Turner
The best Romantics (barring Blake who stands in his own realm, not necessarily above all others but just in his own distinct place) are uneven. Moments of insane potential realized. Wordsworth is the biggest failure of a romantic because he did not lend himself to it.
Kayden Roberts
Excluding Tennyson because he's not in the same movement, the correct tier-list is:
>Shelley
>Blake
Power gap
>Keats
>Wordsworth
Power gap
>Coleridge
>Byron
Nicholas Richardson
Kubla Khan is a shit gimmick.
Ethan Walker
So it seems agreed he's spotty but sometimes brilliant. I loved Kubla Khan and ancient mariner. What other poems are worthwhile?
Ethan Price
Robert Anderson
Robert Lewis
Honestly don't understand the Byron hate here, the guy was a genius, is this another case of Veeky Forums trying to shit on someone generally admired in order to appear tasteful and discerning?
Chase Gomez
byron is super inconsistent and his reputation was largely bolstered by his interesting life story
don juan is indisputably a masterpiece. the rest of his stuff tends to be kinda lackluster overall with a few exceptions.
Andrew Russell
FACT: Blake is the most overrated of the Romantics
Ryder Collins
I've been reading through even some of his short poetry and he's never especially bad, he's actually very good; the mythology around Byron wasn't already there and he filled it in, it seems more likely that Byron embodied a certain European feeling which was found in his poetry and then his life --- how could people find out about his life if not for his poetry, for he was an aristocrat and yet not well known outside of his poetry aside from some social circles --- rumors of his life have been built on his semi-autobiographical style of poetry, it's testament to his poetry that he could evoke such popularity among the literate of Europe, and it can only be explained by his evoking a mood and sentiment which the young of his generation and the romantics at large could see themselves reflected in.