Is this true

It's not easy to stop.. I have tried many times, but i can barely make it more than two days..

Why weren't her nudes released in the fappening, man.

Why even live

Better than me. I can barely make it more than 12 hours.

I'm also currently failing calculus 1 so maybe it has something to do with that.

I've actually had either hypertension or maybe just developing parkinsons lmao

I always knew it was a source of depression due to dopamine withdraw, but I've been feeling more of the neurological consequences, possibly.

I remember all the bullshit about it making you go blind, but honestly my vision does suffer during periods in my life where I fapped more often. Not directly after, but just during the time period. Bad headache where my vision would become blurry and then develop into a headache. Usually took a few hours to go away.

Lately I've noticed my hands twitching and shaking slightly. I've considered the end of a pen to be a surgical tool, and trust me I am far from qualified to be a surgeon.

It could just be school stresses, but it's concerning.

It's always anecdotal evidence, I have not looked far into actual studies of emotional and neurological health being impacted by excessive masturbation / porn addiction. This makes it easy to write off for those that don't have a problem with it.

But it is certainly a grave error to tell someone with an addiction that it is just a meme.

>Better than me. I can barely make it more than 12 hours.
How so if I may ask?
Is your libido that high?

Lots of free time, mild depression, don't really have many interests, and having OCD/being a sperg doesn't help a lot.

That and I've been doing it since I was 12 and I don't feel like making 2-3 weeks of my life utter hell to stop.

>making 2-3 weeks of my life utter hell
It can take months.
But then your life is longer so it may be worth it.
I'm not a severe case but I've completed a week today and I've made it to two months in the past.
I swear to God I'll not masturbate again until I stick it into a girl.

That's why you eat the brotein and stay away from semen demons

>I'm also currently failing calculus 1 so maybe it has something to do with that.
There is absolutely a relation. You are really stressed. Even without fapping you will be tired because you are failing a class. Your top priority should be to improve your academic situation and don't escape into mindless entertainment such as pornography.

Bad idea

All bullshit pseudoscience. If this was the case then it would imply that natural selection would be working against men who have sex with women on a regular basis. After all, your body doesn't know the difference between masturbation and sex -- orgasm is orgasm.

The ONLY thing supported by evidence is the argument of dopamine tolerance, but that's true for coffee as well so it doesn't concern me so much.

that's not how natural selection works you fucking idiot

if frequent ejaculations had a negative effect on men, men who ejaculated more would still breed in higher numbers

don't ever post on this site again

>if frequent ejaculations had a negative effect on men, men who ejaculated more would still breed in higher numbers

You know who would breed at even HIGHER rates? Men who aren't crippled by ejaculating.

Addiction research isn't necessarily pseudoscience, more likely each person is just too different and susceptible to different forms of addiction, some people can just will themselves out of smoking, others just need to chew on something, others can't even with nicotine patches and whatever else.
Then there's gambling addicts and other such activities perhaps, though I'm uncertain if that's addiction or the idea that some people gamble too much and have to win to get out of the hole they dig for themselves. Are there other addictions that have absolutely no external input on one's bodily functions, it is strictly whatever form of satisfaction or elation of whatever activity that they are addicted to, with perhaps the exceptions of things like sex and eating, those would perhaps be improper urges of natural desires.
Like can you get addicted to playing sports, driving cars, reading books, or anything else that may feed a similar stimulation to gambling while again having almost no influence on your physical well being.

Being complete idiots obviously didn't stop YOUR parents from breeding.

This doesn't make sense, you create sperm constantly so why would blowing a load change anything? But lets have a closer look anyway:

>the body only absorbs a very tiny amount.

As far as I can tell you absorb about 40% of the Zinc you consume (source: ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.full), there's about 0.6 mg of Zinc in the average nut (Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen) so you'd need to eat about 1.5mg of Zinc to replace what you lost. In sub-saharan Africa they're able to eat about 3.4 mg of Zinc (source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3510072/), so I'm guessing that the average American is more than capable of eating his RDA and then some, particularly since things like beef are high in Zinc (4 mg per 100 g). So lets say you eat nothing all day except for one meal consisting of beef, you'd need to eat about 3kg of beef to get your RDA+10 nuts (assuming you loose the same amount of Zinc each time), not exactly an easy prospect, but not one that could be described as impossible.

Furthermore, less than 15% of the US suffers from Zinc deficiency, so again clearly this isn't an endemic problem.

Finally the body has a reserve of about 2g of Zinc, so I doubt that masturbation induced Zinc deficiency is going to be a problem for your average man.

This seems like more "no-fap" pseudoscience.

your brain knows the difference and your brain releases different hormones based on what it perceives

ie different hormones for penis in vag and penis in hand

>Bro, I read it on BodyBuilding.com
This is retarded, go hurt yourself.

>brainlet's pebble brain can't tell the difference between ejaculating into a woman and into a sock

Only brainlets use le ebin brainlet maymay instead of defending their thesis.

explain to me exactly why you think it's retarded

you think that the process of semen coming out of your dick hole is the only relevant action that releases a cascade of hormones? are you so dumb that you think our bodies are that simple?

>"Cognitive functions, such as learning and hedonic tone, are impaired with zinc deficiency.[5][25] Moderate and more severe zinc deficiencies are associated with behavioral abnormalities, such as irritability, lethargy, and depression (e.g., involving anhedonia)"

I'm officially concerned

>explain to me exactly why you think it's retarded

>Watch a horror film
>Get scared because my brain can't differentiate between actual threat and the make belief

>watch porn
>Brain switches to "different hormones" because it's evolved to know I'm watching porn on the Internet.

you get scared in a horror movie because your brain CANT differentiate between the not real threat in the movie and a real threat. The difference in your two scenarios is humans have evolved for thousands of years to know the difference between sex and masturbation because theyve been doing at least one and probably both forever

whereas horror movies and televisions that can very realistically portray a threat without it actually being a threat have not been around for nearly enough time for us to be used to them on a biochemical level. In fact, you just proved my point, because the only reason you can still be scared of a jump scare in a horror movie even if you consciously tell yourself "it's not real it's not real this is a jumpscare dont jump OH FUCK" is because your brain subconsciously isnt conditioned to know that

tldr you can bet humans have evolved to be able to have brains that subconsciously know the difference between a hand and a vagina but you can't say the same for a tv vs reality

You no-fap morons are literally impossible to talk to, okay go find a legit study that gives evidence of what you're saying. Get a study that shows:
>"There are hormones released on masturbation that are different to the ones released on actual penetration"

You won't because what you're arguing for is makes no sense on any level.

Thank god

interesting thread, bump

How so?

>muh precious bodily fluids

>Be Bizlet
>I wonder what the eggheads at sci are doing.
>massive fucking retardation
>Even I'm smarter than these fucks.

They could still be right about ejaculation either in a pussy or a sock. Semen does contain dopamine.

Maybe your semen contains whats needed to spark intelligent life, much like an egg or a seed does to braindead life.

>brotein
I don't know why but I'm thinking this guy wants to suck other guys

>horror movies and televisions that can very realistically portray a threat without it actually being a threat have not been around for nearly enough time for us to be used to them on a biochemical level
Why would we ever get used to that "on a biochemical level"? Horror movies scare us because we are able to empathize with the characters. Being able to simulate the emotional response to a threat without actually being threatened is an andvantage imo.

I have masturbated 3 times since this thread came up..

>your brain knows the difference and your brain releases different hormones based on what it perceives
>ie different hormones for penis in vag and penis in hand
This, exactly.
I am excited and shaking just by chatting with a girl.

/thread

Honestly I stopped fapping one week ago and my life is already improving dramatically. I don't know if it's just some placebo effect bullshit, but it's working wonders for me.

>bad vision after fapping
I experience that as well. It's a common system.

I wonder why the most common rule for ascetics in all cultures has been to refrain from fapping

Ejaculation is ejaculation.

Do you fap lying down? Straining to keep an erection could result in increased intraocular pressure.

I've tried this nofap shit, and it's impossible for me. I just feel pent up frustration and absolutely no benefits. I normally fap like 4 times a day, and I'm doing just fine now.

Anyways, I've heard you lose an insignificant amount of zinc each time you ejaculate(something to the extent of ~5% at first), and the amount you lose will decrease each time after that.

I mean, if fapping is causing you distress, maybe chill a little, but don't worry about it otherwise. Also, fapping will have little to no impact on hair loss. That has way, way more to do with your genetics(how prone you are to MPB) and the amount of test you produce.

The problem is that everyone has some idea of what science is and think "hey I like smoking weed and looking at the stars". Basically we get a flood of polshitters and similar dregs who shit up our board.

>you lose an insignificant amount of zinc each time you ejaculate(something to the extent of ~5% at first), and the amount you lose will decrease each time after that.
Sounds fake. What the fuck kind of biological mechanism would account for that?

Not always laying down. But that is a possibility.

I feel your pain, but maybe part of the problem is the overgrown sexual culture we are inundated with each day.
It's one thing to say you have a high libido, and quite another to be bombarded into acceptance of a problem. I've thought about that a bit. I don't know.

The fact that few scientific studies exist is annoying.

I dunno. Some medical doctor mentioned it before, and I'm just repeating it. Really, though, don't fall for this nofap shit. It can lead to ED, low test, prostate problems, and plenty of other shit. Just fap in moderation.

Yeah, I think the biggest problem is porn and not masturbating. There should be some studies done on the differences between dudes who fap with porn vs without porn. That would be interesting.

I tried nofap for 21 days and it indeed increases your testosterone levels, I could feel it ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788

I became a lot more horny

But fapping feels good and I am a forever alone so who cares

I guess the same mechanism that leads to ejaculating less after masturbating multiple times a day. For example, I can do the big cums if I don't fap for one or two days, I can do an average load if I fap every day, and when I fap like 5 times, almost nothing comes out the last time.

>Just fap in moderation.
>in moderation
This is the hard part, unfortunately.

Is that study talking about free testosterone or just testosterone(cuz there's a pretty big difference between the two)? I know that free testosterone can spike afterwards, but it's only temporary and pretty insignificant.

Also, I remember seeing a study that said long term abstinence(maybe around 3 months if I remember correctly) actually decreases testosterone.

Fuck yeah it is. I have like no refractory period, too, so I can easily masturbate like 10 times in a single day(back to back to back). Honestly, the best thing you can do is try to phase out porn and use only your mind. I end up fapping way less when I do that.

They tried but couldn't find anyone who didn't watch porn

This, most other people in this thread probably still think masturbating grows hair on your palms and makes you blind.

Eat a lot of nuts and fap like a monkey. Problem solved.

Bumping with probably the less shit question made in this thread so far. If you can't have sex on a regular basis, how often should you fap for the ideal lifestyle and health? Or should you just let wet dreams take care of that shit for you?

Sperm cells need a few days to fully grow. There's a biological imperative to only orgasm once every 2-3 days, since you're more fertile this way.

If so, it's very possible that orgasming every day is bad.

It's not true. Sperm is not made with zinc.

holy fuck BTFO

I'm 30
Ejaculate 5-7 times a week
Still full hair

Also:
No stress
No gf (or any mental interaction with females)
No junk food
Do sport

underrated post

No, it's made with LOVE.

Srsly though, have an abstract:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1609752/

>No stress

Tell me how

>No gf (or any mental interaction with females)

LMAO

I don't see how it counts as "entertainment" considering it takes me literally 30 seconds to get off if I try real hard.

no, I'm not kidding.

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