Immortality/Stem cells

cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(16)31664-6

Published today, by the Salk institute in California, this paper shows that forced expression IN VIVO of the Yamanaka factors (OSKM) in order to induce pluripotency in differentiated cells in mice results in the amelioration of phenotypic aging symptoms i.e. mice tissues get healthier, as if they were younger, WITHOUT INCREASED RISK OF CANCER.

This confirms that epigenetic marks on the genome play a central role in aging and paves the way for more research into how mammalian aging itself works. This could be very useful research that could allow for clinical tests in humans in a few years from now.

Thought Veeky Forums would like to know, what with all the recent immortality craze.
PLEB VERSION: scientists discovered and outlined a protocol to "reverse" aging in mice tissue. Yes, this could show us the way on how to reverse aging in human tissues using the suitable pharmaceuticals, some years from now.
Simplified article: salk.edu/news-release/turning-back-time-salk-scientists-reverse-signs-aging/

Dumbed-down article: theguardian.com/science/2016/dec/15/ageing-process-may-be-reversible-scientists-claim

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>you were born too late to receive the sweet embrace of death

Reversing aging is stupid. We already live abnormally long lives. Old humans die so that new humans can take their place and progress can be made.

>Reversing aging is stupid.
I beg to differ.

holy shit I might actually never die.

ok next thread.

>history is linear meme

+18

I'd say it's doable. We'd need to put a shit ton of funding into benefiting the good of man than personal gain and profit. That is assuming that this type of technology won't just be hoarded by the elite. We'd need to get off mother earth and stuff like that.

>tfw fapping to mai waifu for all eternity

Nobody will make you take it.
>If can't live forever nobody can

Are you trying to say that stem cells aren't just nuclear fusion redux?

Felt like it's always been 10-20 years away.

This

How are we going to deal with overpopulation if immortality actually becomes accessible?

By making it expensive enough so only the elites can afford it.

The owner of their university are going to become filthy rich

>tfw the magician died too soon

No, here is what we do. If you decide to take it, and you and up having kids while you are taking it, than you must be put to death. You can only have kids if you aren't immortal, and if you have kids, then you can't be immortal. I can't think of a better solution, there would be no overpopulation if this happened.

Some horrible stuff would happen

>chop of penis
>grow old and die
pick one, ill go for second

by doing what this guy said

If we administered such a treatment to every fetus from this point on, what effect would this have on humanity?
The existence of people born too late to receive this treatment alongside a generation of maturing children who have had it would be quite an interesting scenario for humanity to get through.

But then the dumb but rich get immortality and the ones that further our race dont

I want immortalityfags to leave.

This will never happen you fucking brainlets.

I want niggers like you to leave.

We """accidentally""" nuke Africa, India and China. (some 4 billion people in total)

Bam. Done it. Now we have bought ourselves enough time to develop the space industry and colonize other planets.

Excluding immigration the birth rate in Western countries is low. In Japan it is at 1.4. And you need 2.1 to maintain equilibrium.

There will always be accidents. With immortality people will undertake decade long journeys to other planets and long term tasks that bring risks.

In other words the problem does not exist.

Basically: As soon as we can make waifus and husbandos real with immortality. Game set and match. The future looks bright.

I'm sure all the nootrop fags are already self prescribing themselves with this shit.

As much as I love life and as much as I'd like to see just how far humanity can go, I feel like death would eventually call for me. I love ya guys, but I just need to know what's beyond.

Does this mean we can end the cycle of each generation trying to fuck over the youngest generation as much as possible? Will old people finally start giving a fuck about the environment and world if they don't believe they'll be dead in 15 years? Thank god! Finally we can start making some progress.

DING DING DING

Basically yes.

What if you can find the answers beyond while alive? Its best to try to do that, then if you never find it, do death.

>dumb but rich
kek

Okay Veeky Forums you got your immortality.
What is the next step in your master plan?

Nonresponsive.

It has nothing to do with linearity. I'm talking about change. Society would stagnate if no one died and there was no room for new individuals.

That doesn't respond to the point.

>>Smoking is stupid because it causes lung cancer
>No one's forcing you to smoke

Crashing this civilization with no survivors.

>if you smoke, you could have lung cancer and die, that's bad
>if you take that therapy, you will live longer and healthier, it's equally as bad

you better explain why it is as stupid.as smoking you edgelord

Becoming little girl
Maybe checking old ass magic books to see if they work

Understanding turbulent flow

I dunno user. Immortal doesn't mean indestructible.

>Society would stagnate if no one died.
Give me one living example of this happening in reality with humans.

Pro Tip: You can't.
So shut the fuck up with your made beliefs and come back with real fucking evidence.

Wow, it's like you don't understand how an analogy works. And I already did explain why it's bad, you just ignored it.

>Give me one living example of this happening in reality with humans.
An example of a society where no one dies? Are you fucking retarded? Yes, yes you are.

There has never been a society that stagnated either. Are you fucking retarded? Yes, yes you are.

Change always happens.

>There has never been a society that stagnated either.
Ahaha, are you serious?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse

There is difference between a societal collapse and the stagnation of a society.

You do know that? The collapse of a society is hte complete failure of the state/group to continue its existence.

The stagnation of a society is the continued governance of a society while keeping its important features going and doesn't result in a failure or collapse.

Are you serious? How retarded are you?

I will admit though. The stagnation of a society can lead to its collapse, but they are not the same fucking thing.

>There is difference between a societal collapse and the stagnation of a society.
Yeah, but I never said there wasn't. Stagnation is one form of societal collapse. Moron.

>The stagnation of a society is the continued governance of a society while keeping its important features going and doesn't result in a failure or collapse.
Wow, did you really just try to win the argument by making up a retarded definition of stagnation out of thin air? What you described has nothing to do with stagnation, and would equally describe a period of progress. Stagnation is negative, it's the slow death of a society from failure to reform and adapt. A prominent example of such a society is the Soviet Union, which became a gerontocracy during its stagnation.

And the replacement rate in developed countries is below zero.

Well, we still need to breed replacement levels since biological immortality is not invulnerability.

One/Two child rule would just be enacted in the US/Western world.

Anybody else also super nervous by these types of breakthroughs? I'm poor and the closer we seem to get to this, the more I think I'm just going to miss out while my asshole grade-school richfag bullies live for all eternity.

> One/Two child rule would just be enacted in the US/Western world.
China couldn't enforce a 1 child rule. How are Western nations going to do it?

Birth rates are already that low in white populations in the West anyway. It's just cracking down on minorities and the occasional Mormon.

>wanting to live forever
What's the point??

Well user here is the thing. The person who is capable of marketing biological immortality to normal-decent people will become highly influential in status and extremely wealthy.

Not too mention as time goes on the price of things will cheaper.

Richfags won't bully you about immortality if you can buy it. They can still bully you about having better healthcare services though.

>Wanting to die
What's the point??

> It's just cracking down on minorities and the occasional Mormon.
White cops taking and euthanizing black babies so rich white folk can live forever.

Yeah, I can see that going over really well.

>keep a couple milliard people with various genotypes that are better at something than the rest
>kill the rest
>let them breed another couple milliard and wait till the new generation can compete
>repeat

Destroy all evidence of current civilization, leaving only few groups of people with wiped memory behind on Earth, and sail to the stars with our starships.

And thus the cycle begins anew.

hopefully, people will get bored and do risky shit and get themselves killed

by making it a 2 child rule instead and not oppressing people in other ways like China did

That's all fine and dandy, fleshbag, but the age of the machines is coming and you will all be gone by the next century anyway.

I'm sure this won't give full immortality
if you get brain cancer and don't catch it early enough there's pretty much nothing that can be done, even with stem cells, because if you replaced those cells you wouldn't be yourself any more
the same thing applies to cancer that's taken root in too many organs (although there have been some striking multi-organ transplants that left people momentarily looking like a gutted turkey)
I don't think this would cure AIDS or Ebola
etc.

more porn

Yea well that's like, your opinion, man.

Awesome for those who want to live.

When people talk about immortality they just mean life extension through negligible senescence, as in preventing aging, not immunity to all disease or anything like that.

You guys just made /thread.

I will never understand why people would be against living longer? What is the point of a medicine or even a hospital if you don't want to live longer?