What does sci think about engineering?
What does sci think about engineering?
Justin Perez
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John Gonzalez
I think Veeky Forums holds around 99% of the degree within stem in high regard. of course, not including psychology lolol
Nathan Nguyen
They are obviously an important part of STEM. STEM literally wouldn't be STEM without them. It would be STM. How would we pronounce it? s--tum?
Anyways, they are good for jobs and shit but the things that make them better for jobs make them worse for hobbyist discussion about physics and mathematics.
Engineers seem to not have any pure classes in either of these fields so whenever they try to join in and talk about *insert meme problem in math or physics* their inferior knowledge shows and thus people shit on them. Have this event reoccur billions on times on Veeky Forums and now we say they are gay simply for existing.
Julian Hernandez
engineering is a meme degree, pushed to and taken by illogical retards that couldn't reason their way out of a wet paper bag. any physicist could easily do all the shit that engineers do and more, but big engineering prevents anyone without a little piece of paper that has their stamped and sealed signature of approval from getting in. the reverse isn't true though, because an engineer couldn't do what physicists do, it's an objective fact that they simply lack the logical, coherent nature of thought that distinguishes the sciences from the liberal arts.
even a biologist is more logical than an engineer. engineers just plug the numbers into their pre approved formulas, and chug the shit that comes out. a biologist actually needs reason, logic, and the ability to intellectually manipulate abstract concepts to figure out the true nature of what's going on.
engineering is a liberal arts degree hiding behind numbers, there's no real science going on there that wasn't already developed by REAL scientists. if you can't see that you're a salty engineering faggot that needs to go rethink their life. go get a business degree instead, at least with that you'll be able to get drunk on the weekends, instead of hopelessly aspiring to the heights that REAL scientists have already ascended
Jeremiah Powell
i'll have to agree about the shit-teir level math that we achieve. I've noticed that within my past math classes being ; multivariate, calc 2 and differential equations, my engineering classmates had insane amounts of trouble with those classes- there was a 50% fail rate in calculus 2.
I recall some of my friends actually telling me that "oh this math is entirely meaningless to what makes an engineer and engineer" , which inst necessarily true , and it would suck to have a mathematically incompetent engineer doing a job on something that risks civilian lifes.
Levi Hughes
Does that mindset, or lack there of, still apply to experimental research jobs? Engineers being on the design teem in accordance with theoretical and experimental physicists?
John Miller
>this math is entirely meaningless to what makes an engineer and engineer
They are partially right.
My dad is a civil engineer, has been for decades. A long time ago, before I entered university, I asked him if he used calculus in his job. Specifically, I asked him if he had to compute derivatives or integrals.
His answer was that no, he just uses formulas for volume and whatever. Obviously, these formulas are derived from calculus but technically to be an engineer you don't need to know that. You could just know the formulas.
My guess is that the only engineers who actually use calculus are those working in research, either industrial or academic, and they are more like applied mathematicians than engineers, given that people who do research do not engineer anything.
Cameron Rodriguez
Actually i change my stance, i assume having in dept knowledge of statics and dynamics would much better benefit an engineer than finding the improper integral at infinity.
My dad is also an engineer, he is an industrial, and neither does he have to do any mathematically intensive work, besides basic statistic reports/graphs etc.
The lack of utilizing the math is rather unfortunate ,to be quite honest, mainly because i actually really enjoy those math classes and was exceeding well at them, i TA'd for calculus 2.
Hudson Ramirez
well memed
Brody Wilson
well memed indeed