Best second language, Veeky Forums?
IMO
Ancient tier: Homeric Greek, Roman, Biblical Hebrew, Aramaic, Sanskrit
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God tier: French, German
Top tier: Spanish, Russian, Italian
Great tier: Arabic, Farsi, Japanese, whatever most chinese shit is written in, Norwegian, Portuguese
Good tier: all other euro languages
Why? tier: old english, indigenous peoples' languages, that viet-cong shit, everything else
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>whatever most chinese shit is written in
Chinese?
>tfw speak German, Spanish, English
>tfw finna learn French and Japanese
only thing left is to do Arabic, maybe Chinese
>Why? tier: old english, indigenous peoples' languages
To be fair, the mainland Chinese government in the 1950s modified their writing system into something called "Simplified" Chinese (vs. Traditional Chinese which places like Taiwan and Hong Kong still use).
Also, different parts of China speak in different dialects (Cantonese and Mandrin have about as much in common with each other as English and French) although they use the same writing system.
To give an example of the differences, here is "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" in
Simplified: 三国演义
Traditional: 三國演義
Just for fun, I believe this is how the Japanese write "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" (note that it's a combination of simplified and traditional Chinese characters):
三国志演義
English is my second language.
I am learning French and Russian, though, and I would agree with your placement of those.
I cant wait to be advanced in French, start working on either Italian or something(i am not sure which i want most: japanese, russian, farsi, maybe german)
Spanish somewhere in there too. Not my favorite but id like to be better at it
German... i should learn it but im not that interested in it.
I dont any foreign language the way i like french... except i guess the sound of italian can be close sometimes
Gl on your own magical tongue journeys anons
English, German, French, in that order of relevance. Other languages aren't really worth it.
>Roman
oh jesus christ im just gonna kill myself desu
for the record I do know that the language in question is called latin
in all honesty no language is truly "why" tier and old english should have been ancient or great tier but what makes cree better than or equal to, say, finnish? especially in the context of literary study i just cannot compute
It is actually in the context that it really matters, since it is a dead language. It might be a niche language, so to speak, but if we are dealing with literary context here then it is very important.
As for indigenous people language, you would be suprised by the poets who write in an indigenous language. They are also important for anthopology and literary studies.
Is vietnamese lit good? The language itself seems cool.
sure u did boo
>Why? tier: old english
Triggered desu. Majoring in this shit.
French will be a breeze compared to the arduous process of learning German. Have fun with Japanese, kouhai, I gave up after a month.
You kidding? German is so much easier to learn for English speakers.
Danish should be great tier for Kierkegaard alone and Old English and Norse should be ancient tier cos Borges was learning them.
The differences between simplified and traditional Chinese are trivial and not really an issue once you know one of them.
Although user could have been referring to classical vs. modern vernacular Chinese. That is a legitimately big difference.
Fluent EN / FR, B2 DE, B1 PT
Currently learning Turkish. I want to speak Persian (yes, Persian, that's what you should call it) and MSA as well before I'm thirty, and also have a good standard on Classical Greek and Latin. Not sure what else.
By the way, Biblical Hebrew is barely different from modern Hebrew.
French is comparatively simple but ridiculously messy (like English, which gives it quite a bit of its appeal). German just makes so much sense.
Also it's worth mentioning that given any amount of Portuguese you will understand the same level of Spanish (albeit slower) but the same can't be said in reverse.
portuguese gives you spanish and italian comprehension
not really, written Portuguese is easily understood by Spanish speakers and vice versa.
Portuguese and Spanish are two very similar languages that are pronounced very differently.
>Top tier
>French
How come
French literature is one of the best in the world, why wouldn't it be a top-tier language?
>Roman
>excluding russian from god tier
top pleb
>tfw no senpai to be a kohai for
That was the first thing I thought.
Good tier: Spanish, Italian
Top Tier: Portuguese, Russian, French
alright: British English
Shart in Mart tier: American English
g8 br8 m'l8
if you're serious consider killing yourself
the number of great French writers is overwhelming. France has the best national literature.
France doesnt have a national writer like Cervantes, Shakespeare, or Goethe, because they have so many writers to choose from.
It is the only language worth learning for literature even if you hate the country and the people.
>France has the best national literature.
I'm talking about speaking, although since Spanish orthography is super consistent and Portuguese isn't, I'd bet that the same is true to a lesser extent.
although as a lusofone myself I don't know who would take PT lit over ES lit
France has moliere, Zola, Balzac for starters. I think they have plenty of greats as well as those who stand out beyond them for one reason or another
>France has the best national literature.
lol, i love the euro and west centric ignorant idiots
try china
>moliere
Zola isn't one of the great French writers, he's not even in that conversation.
wtf i hate arvid and hulda now
Proust, Corneille, Flaubert, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Beckett, Celine, Valery, the list keeps fucking going. I personally prefer spanish and latin american lit but if you just want to read as many big influential canon works as possible, french seems to be objectively the best. german is also great but with more of an edge in philosophy.
I mean, it's a pretty shitty thing to be comparing languages like this in the first place though.
This inspired me to learn German
Don't learn japanese, learn latin after finishing french instead. It's the most logical course.
Anyone here have any experience with Hungarian?
Holy shit, Moliere is a real writer? I only saw that movie with Romain Duris
I just had my mind blown haha
>Veeky Forums - literature
yes it's my mother tongue, hard as fuck but beautiful if you can appreciate it, not sure if it's worth the investment for a foreigner though
He was talking about national Icons, Zola depicted the 2nd empires reign magnificently. Zola is not bad by any means he has wonderful style and is as analytical as George Eliot ever was in middlemarch.
>Best second language, Veeky Forums?
Based on what criteria?
>God tier: French, German
These aren't as widely spoken as Spanish. Spanish would be vastly more useful to you.
Lots of writers deserve the title of French lit icon more than Zola though : Molière, Racine, Montaigne, Rabelais, Hugo, Proust, Flaubert...
I am a Spanish speaker, I like literature in Spanish. But French literature is far superior because Spanish literature was awful for almost two centuries, from the XVIII century after the Siglo de Oro, to the late XIX century in which Spanish literature was resurrected, mainly by the influence of French poets like Verlaine and Mallarme.
What's the best way to practice speaking the language you're learning?
Find speakers and talk to them.
listen to pop music from that country. if you are not from an English speaking country, American/British pop and rock is how you learn to pronounce words.
I have spanish and english as my first and second language respectively, currently learning French (not that advanced with it, I don't think I'd be able to read a whole book with what I know, without taking the dictionary every minute)
Which one should I take as my fourth language? I was thinking about Italian or even Portuguese (being romantic languages it would be easier for me), but I also want to read the Russians in their language.
If any language is likely to be easier to learn than another, for you that is, I'd go with that.
Russian is easy to learn if you are good at Spanish. Both are structurally similar.
if you only want to learn the language for reading and not for communicating, then Latin becomes a good option too. en.wikipedia.org
lol
This, friendo.
You must be retarded.