Daily reminder that IQ is a meme

>higher IQ
>there's one black nation example
the economic system has a bigger influence over the economic prosperity than IQ.

could be cherrypicking but how do you explain that capitalism is the driving force behind prosperity and IQ is irrelevant.

look up botswana, same PPP as brazil and is a black african nation.

Holy fuck, if that dats is true then holy motherfucking fuck.

There must be something else. Something that affects black people even when they are middle class. It could be, again, the neighbourhoods they populate. The state usually doesn't give a shit.

Do you have data for people who make over 6 figures? And maybe for millionaires? If there are still black millionaires murdering then call me a cuck and race war now.

you mean the jewish masterrace. if asians were so smart, they wouldn't live in shitty homes and work in sweatshops for 15 dollars a day

You got it wrong. IQ is the driving force behind capitalism.

bet you are angry

american blacks suffer from unique characteristics.

look up non american black data, some african nations have homicide levels lower than other white nations.

america is a shithole.

how do you explain botswana versus zimbawe then retard?

One was founded by a president trained in a british college and had a boner for european institutions and capitalism.

the other had a socialist dictator.

guess what happens then.

>same PPP as brazil
as if that's impressive

in africa they're still busy spraying each other with pesticide

bbc.com/news/world-africa-38051923

and paying HIV infected men to have sex with 12 year olds to 'cleanse' them

bbc.com/news/world-africa-36892963

Socialism scared away the high IQ people. They left Zimbabwe and moved to Botswana.

that's impressive for a black nation.

most of africa is still rural and a lot of their population has not proper modern education.
is like if a lot of them are still living centuries ago.

look up if those examples comes from the urban centers or the rural towns.

yes, because socialism sure rewards the high IQ hard working people.

american blacks are suffering from positive and negative racism. positive racism from libtards, who always treat minorities like pets, making them fragile and weak and ultimately stopping them from growing as a culture, and from negative racism by repubtards who think race identity determines your place in society, discriminating against blacks and denying them from opportunities to grow as a culture.

picture is bullshit.

niggers are dumb and everyone knows it. you'd have to be retarded not to see it.

is interesting to see how culture shaped american blacks into some retarded shit, how their culture is a regressive one and doesn't promote growing up as a person.

most black americans that want to work and educate, the smart black kids are discriminated by their own culture, even calling them uncle toms.

niggers only exist in USA, newfag.
read more about blacks.

there's plenty of smart african kids who are now getting scholarships to study in colleges betters than what you are.

also not all blacks have low IQ, blacks aren't a single race.

It could be this. There is really a culture of criminality, specially among blacks but also whites.

According to pop culture in the US, you are not cool if you aren't a pimp with two hoes by your side and a gun to bust any "nigga" who messes with you.

My guess would be that the african nations who do better than the US do not have that culture of criminality and it makes sense. Pushing for hip hop and trash music in general is something that only first world nations can do. If you sing about smoking weed, fucking hoes and busting nigga's asses in a third world country people are going to look at you like a madman. People are too busy making a living a not dying to pay attention to such superficial crap.

yeah, american culture is a toxic retarded one.

compared it to whites.
they brag about being better than blacks, but they don't see white americans are the retarded inbreed stock of the white race.

white americans are simply more violent and retarded on average.

is a cultural problem, not a racial one.

IQ varies greatly, OP, and you are showing pics of very small areas. North Korea probably has a very low IQ due to starvation and poverty, East Germany has slav population, probably, some cities in Africa may attract international minds to extract resources and coordinate work, Colombia and Venezuela are very different, these IQ scores are made with small groups, and most likely, by random people in the streets.

Yes. Because human being can be engineered. I mean, they made you into a dick, and there is nothing you could have done about it.

Let's treat all people like they are pigeons in a box. It's worked so well in the past.

No wait! You mean all that nonsense about Welfare Queens was made up?

no retard, both are neightbor countries with the same culture and same genetic stock.

compare modern china to mao china for a better example, or ghandi india to india after they switch to free market.

You do realize that different nations have different reporting rates?

You seriously think countries like Sudan have the same level of policing as the US?

you do realize black african nations people mob and lynched rapists and murderers, I'm sure you have seen those videos where africans burn alive some criminal and you think: wow, they're savages.

>daily reminder that IQ is a meme.
No, it's just that it's only one of several factors that influence life/national outcomes. Arguing that because IQ doesn't completely cause outcomes it must have no importance on outcomes is retarded. You can't just blindly reverse an incorrect idea and hope to arrive at a correct one.

Isn't the main reason niggers are fucked in the States due to fatherless families?

systemic opression from their own culture and external factors.

That is the dumbest fucking explanation I've ever heard. And where the fuck are you getting your numbers from. WHO estimates Ghana homicide rates per 100k at 15.7 in 2007. Certainly nowhere near the 1.6 you claim.

2008*

Source: UNODC Homicide Statistics 2012

>systemic opression
Uh, no. Although I can buy them also being affected by a classist system which disproportionally targets the poor and lets the rich off the hook.

data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5?locations=GH
here's world bank data, newfaggot.
get update data, not shit from the last century.

blacks have a crime culture in america.

>wow haha look at my cherrypicked photographs, this is definitely an argument!

Colombia is a shithole where cartels run the country and kill people over $500 and people rob tourists using scopolamine.

Reaction time evidence suggests that the average white in the Victorian era had an IQ 15 points (an entire standard deviation) than the average today. This puts them at or higher than the purported Jewish estimate. I would bet that if our culture and popular entertainment ceased to push its degenerate, anti intellectual agenda on the poor, working class and uneducated our average IQ would be just as high.

holy cherry-picking batman

>whites are dumber than asians cause of le degenerate culture
>not blacks lol its just genetic, pure subhumans!!!
/pol/ is very intellectually dishonest

I never made the claim blacks weren't being held from their true potential either. I would argue they are more so than whites.

>/pol/
SJWtards expose themselves so easily these days

>white americans are the retarded inbreed stock of the white race.
lol, no. You obviously haven't been to the UK or Eastern Europe.

they don't believe in creationism though.

Yes, because Israel is a much more developed country than Japan.

here you go

youtube.com/watch?v=Zsh_b70NSFQ

Jews lack the visuospatial skills to excel in design or engineering so naturally their country will desire much in terms of infrastructure and civic development. However you're missing the point. They don't need to actually do any of that just like they don't need to do any of the actual labor. Their freakishly high verbal abilities allow them to acquire the capital and let others do it.

so why is it that are they poor and live in shitty neigborhoods?

>tfw Veeky Forums veteran
>tfw too smart to see the negative ramifications of letting millions and millions of niggers into europe
someone explain it to me, p-please

>muh capitalism solves all the problems!
lmao.
look at Mexico. they are not left leaning. and they are a narco ridden shithole.
look at the state of the American working class. they are in such a state of despair they literally voted for a multimillionaire to "drain the swamp" lmao. they are hopeless.
Look at Chile. the rampant inequality caused riots about education

Niggers in Europe perform as bad as niggers in America on any concievable metrics, yet they never were enslaved, nor oppressed in this case.

those aren't free market countries idiot.

except for igbos and niggerians.
try again.

free market only generates poverty in the third world
there's a reason why the us always tried to forcefully remove emancipatory governments in the third world

But it's alright when /pol/ does it, right?

no, every single study shows people in the west today are way smarter than 50 years ago. this btw makes sense. the brain is a muscle and can be trained. more years in school will increase the average iq.

>cherrypicked
hey

If intelligence is genetic why don't geniuses produce geniuses?
Why can dumb couples produce average people?

coz its partially environmental?

>my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried

What exactly do you suggest does not work with capitalism?

>offspring isn't exactly like parents
>therefore genetics arent real!

Every single study huh?

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000470

this abstract is the most retarded thing i read in a long time. literally /pol tier science. fuck off.

JEJ, this.

They're no better than the people who say "real communism has never been tried"

What is so retarded about it? If you want people to take you seriously, you're going to need to actually articulate yourself. Screaming /pol/ and running off just makes you look like a child.

And for the record, I don't go to /pol/, and I'm not a racist.

And they've only been oppressed that much. Because they've been deemed subhuman by almost every race on this planet.

No it doesn't you stupid fool. How are Asians the master race when most inventions you use are white made, and 60 years later you guys still haven't even made it to the moon.

Your logic right now literally just adds fuel to the fact mongoloids are not master race by far.

literally every sentence about it is retarded.

>The Victorian era was marked by an explosion of innovation and genius, per capita rates of which appear to have declined subsequently.

no indicator mentioned that supports this hypothesis, is argueably not true and just and an anecdote.

The presence of dysgenic fertility for IQ amongst Western nations, starting in the 19th century, suggests that these trends might be related to declining IQ

again just putting a statement out there as if it is self evident.

>This is because high-IQ people are more productive and more creative. We tested the hypothesis that the Victorians were cleverer than modern populations, using high-quality instruments, namely measures of simple visual reaction time in a meta-analytic study.

oh, so finally an indicator. could it be any more unreliable? average reaction time? really? if average reaction time is positively correlated with intelligence, blacks would all be geniuses.

...and so on and so on.

btw, i quickly googled the first name of the authors and everything i found from him had exactly opposite statements (people today are smarter than in the past).

>ow are Asians the master race when most inventions you use are white made,
Lol
>muh creativity
Post evidence that whites are more creative or fuck off.

im not asian, just pointing to the fact that most indicators white racists use to proof their superiority put them second or third.

Not him but don't be dishonest. You'd think that out of all places Veeky Forums would have people with the least cognitive dissonance, but I should have known it would just have intelligent people who would be better at arguing for their silly ideas.

Niggers are stupid. That's all there is to it. And you can shove a few "intelligent" ones our way here and there, and tell us that they're all capable of "affirmative action" aka "hard work", but anyone who can use simple logic, math, statistics, and reasoning will come to the conclusion that generally speaking, blacks are extremely fucking dumb for lack of better words.

You can literally pull out a nigger from a Sub-Saharan African tribe, wearing feathers and mud, prove to me his I.Q.is 200 and that he's a scientist somehow... and it still wouldn't change the fact, that as a whole, they're incapable of a DECENT civilization because collectively they're not their yet when it comes to their mental development.

The white man passed his caveman phase, blacks on the other hand, were pulled out of it, integrated to Victorian Era (not even medieval mind you) and expected to function.

Giving a loaded gun to a monkey is more dangerous than giving it to a scientist correct? When Africans got a hold of AK47s they weren't ready for that technology either.

They have been fucked by non-blacks that I do agree with... but that's because they're the bottom of the barrel.

No it doesn't, and I just proved why it doesn't. So why are you still using the same argument?

I'd rather take a little more crime than Asians, and a little less I.Q., if those trade offs come with beautiful architecture, better lifestyles, more discoveries and inventions, better politics, better economies, better art, better looking people etc

I.Q. Obviously isn't everything, it's still important but it's not everything and the world shows that to be true. There are many different biological things at play and I.Q. is just one out of the many important qualities to be successful in this world.

Let's ignore that /pol/ tier science.

You can't really look me straight in the eye with the way the world is and other real life statistics and tell me the black man I just as intelligent on average as the Mongoloid, Caucasian man?

>white racists use average iq to show their superiority
>average iq wise there are several races above them (asians, jews, sometimes indians, etc.)
>still think they are the master race because of muh iq

and now you are saying iq really doesnt mean much. but when it is about discriminating against blacks, it means the world.

Why are you such a retard acting like you know what you're talking about?
>The white man passed his caveman phase, blacks on the other hand, were pulled out of it
Many african populations were post iron-age. Far past being cavemen. As for the ones that weren't, who cares?
There were europeans who had to be dragged into civilization by more civilized europeans. That does make northern europeans inferior?
>beautiful architecture
Subjective. Chinese probably think Chinese architecture is more beautiful than western architecture.
>better [subjective,subjective,subjective,subjective] thing
Lmao why do you keep relying on subjective shit?
You're literally just saying that you prefer your own culture to another. And pretending you're saying anything remotely objective.

>hurr anyone who hates my savage primitive obnoxious ass must be the same thing
go be a monkey elsewhere

The world is evidence. But if you're too autistic to see the world around you, then pick up a history book.
I don't know what they teach you in China Cheng...

But you guys didn't create the computer, airplane, train, cars, skyscrapers, space shuttles, satellites, phones, discover electricity, nuclear energy, modern western medicine, etc

I mean... the list really goes on. Asians have thought us to be so superior, you guys ditched your girly colorful dresses and now wear suits and ties when trying to be formal.

You guys pride yourselves in playing European classical music and instrument for fucks sake! You come to our countries for opportunities!!! Hahahaha

You guys aren't bad don't get me wrong. But still... I mean... come on.

IQ matters, but results that each race produces matter more. Measure the quality of life of the average Chinese man compared to the quality of life of the average Norwegian man or Finnish man.

When discriminating against blacks, both IQ and the results that they have produced are relevant.

We take into account their I.Q. along with everything else. I didn't say it didn't mean that much, it means quite a bit.

Why are you arguing like someone of double digit I.Q.? Or like a woman?

I only used one subjective argument, and now you're saying that is my ONLY relying argument? Clearly I'm arguing with a dishonest woman. Discussing over

>beautiful architecture
Subjective and eastern architecture is honestly better
>better lifestyles
Asians are way healthier, most of white nations have happiness problems
>more discoveries and inventions
Lots of Jews and we're being overtaken by Asians now.
>better politics
Why
>better economies
Japan is one of the top economies and per capita power. China will overtake USA very soon. India's GDP is also rising.
>better art
No
>better looking people
Irrelevant considering it's subjective and a monkey will consider a monkey attractive, not a human.

Also muh yellow fever

how do you think ancient germanic tribes would have fared in a modern iq test?

i think that iq is indeed not so very much important. i think it is important a civilization develops where there are several other civilizations nearby that can interact with each other. if somebody would ask me why the west started to dominate from 1500 onwards, i would say it is because there was so much diversity and exchange of ideas on the european continent. china was an isolated 99% han chinese country. europe was a multicultural, multireligious (catholics, orthodox, protestants, sunni muslims (ottoman empire)) very dynamic continent. china was homogenous and static.

In Simbabwe, there was a true black high culture that developed somewhere around the year 1000 ad. it was pretty much isolated from the rest of the world. but it crumbled and vanished with no replacement. why? because there was no other culture nearby, no exchange of ideas, etc. also, nobody to conquer, because at the end of the day a lot of empires formed because they wanted to rule over those dickheads across the sea.

Hey autistic retard. I was using caveman as an insult. Not a literal explanation. So now that you know what I meant, since it had to be explained to you. What is your argument now?

The UNODC does an annual report on crime and its based on more than police reporting. It also looks at public health reports from orgs such as WHO and discrepancies between things like estimated deaths and reported deaths.

Don't use caveman as an insult in an argument where there are retards who will use it literally.

Europe was "multicultural" with whites. With European whites.

China is a huge place, with many different people, cultures, and different Asian ethnicities inside of it. Also multicultural if using the same standard.

So why didn't they have the same boom Europeans did?

Apparently.

>Arabs
>White

In the UK black Africans perform better than average on the GCSEs while their blacks of Caribbean descent perform third worst and are only beat out by travellers and gypsies

There's a reason why Chinks and everyone else travels to Europe to see their architecture and culture.

While only weebs go to Japan.

Here's European Art 1600

Japanese art same era

In regards to IQ, that is the case. James Flynn who has contributed plenty on the research of intelligence talks about this. "What is Intelligence?" is a good book I hear

Show me where pajeets have ever demonstrated higher iqs than whites. You are full of shit. I like how you include "etc" when you literally can't list any others.

>There's a reason why Chinks and everyone else travels to Europe to see their architecture and culture.
European don't visit China even though it's a much less free of a country? Or Thailand?

>Asians are way healthier

In comparison to who? I bet you there are way more unhealthy Chinese and South Asian people living in literal shit holes than all the niggers and white trash in America put together.

Please travel to Beijing, or harbor cities in Japan weeb.

>How about Muh Korea

They, along with Japan, have even more depression issues and suicide rates than the USA.

Beauty is not as subjective as you think. You having an Asian fetish because you like Asian culture is an exception. People tend to prefer people of their own race, this is biology.

You like Asians because you can't get someone from your own race but you know you can trick some ugly yellow squeaker to be with you.

Same reason why a lot of ugly men tend to go for fat chicks and develop a BBW fetish.

so do white include the moors who ruled most of what is today's spain? the jews? the turks who ruled byzantine empire (renaming it ottoman and making it muslim)?