Do you think it is morally fine to discriminate based on how good at person is at mathematics? Just to be clear...

>when the autism hits

The people that control governments and militaries aren't autistic marthematicians

Remember that you're just a human computer meant to advance military science to keep the normies in check

>filthy dogs
oh come on that isnt neccesary.

>seperate good from filths
dude tests are there for exactly this purpose.

>saying there is "filth"
you dont understand. anyone can learn anything if there are the right circumstances or the willpower behind it.

>dude, you understand what im saying ?

I do but I think we have to consider all those things as random variables. So my test needs to be like a poker tournament. Instead of taking one tests, students would take hundreds of different tests, all with different structures, in the course of months or years and then at the end we add up their scores.

That is how poker tournaments do it and that is how they balance for luck and good/bad draws. If you play hundreds of games then in the end things will balance and your true skill in the game will decide the result.

>dude tests are there for exactly this purpose.

And those tests are not sufficient.

>The people that control governments and militaries aren't autistic marthematicians

But they are people who understand things quickly. Succesful people today could all pass my test. Do you think a president could not pass my test? Politicians have to very clearly understand and react to the ever changing political climate. They need to optimize their campaigns to get more and more people on their side by doing some pandering. But you need to basically "guess" what to pander to and you do that by studying the system.

>The people that control governments and militaries aren't autistic marthematicians

But they are people who understand things quickly. Succesful people today could all pass my test. Do you think a president could not pass my test? Politicians have to very quickly understand and react to the ever changing political climate. They need to optimize their campaigns to get more and more people on their side by doing some pandering. But you need to basically "guess" what to pander to and you do that by studying the system.

This will breed a caste of autistic numbercrunchers and end with even more pressure in education. In China there was a regular war with police forces when they attempted to punish cheating. If you give free ticket to life it will end with huge corruption and accusations of racism when (not even "if") percentages won't fit.

Besides, it's happening already. Most higher tier jobs give people a SHL test for math aptitude.

My math result was top 5th perc, lacked 1 good answer to be top 1st (which would put me inyour brackets for free gibs). I still wouldn't put myself in any kind of ruling position (as a 4channer, sociopathic thoughts are occupational hazard). There's not far from there to think in categories of human beans and subhumans and from there it's self-evident to apply eugenics.

>tests are not sufficient

what the fuck are you saying man?
you want less knowledge and kick people out of colleges because you want to make a fucking gay test to get a better ego ?

Einstein was thought to be bad in the opinion of his professor and worked at a patent thingy.

You would have kicked him out of the academic world, im sure. some people just have another way of thinking. you would limit the prosperity and distribution of knowledge for the purpose of having less in you opinion better fags who are not neccesarily better.

>tests not sufficient
i dont think so.

>what the fuck are you saying man?

No, you are not getting me. I did not mean that tests are not sufficient. I mean that current tests to know who is "superior" are not good enough.

By that I obviously mean the gay as fuck IQ test and all the variations. IQ is a fucking meme. My test would be a billion times better at predicting skill and success than the BS tests we have now.

Also, I fucking bet Einstein would pass my test. He would be top 1%. The math he used for his breakthroughs was very new and undeveloped. He and his contemporaries basically created new mathematics. That is the kind of people I will test for. People who can do a lot when given completely foreign and new knowledge.

90% of people being made 2nd class citizens based upon some arbitrary metric is a total shit system, but it's orders of magnitude better than the current system where 99% of people are 2nd class citizens for even less meaningful reasons.

Your system sucks but is better than the current one

well, might be but why would you discriminate based on that and disregard knowledge and skill in other areas. for example your test could only work for those kinds of thinkers and others not. you would need many studys and so on to legitimate your tests.

Lorentz and Minkowsky created the Basis for Einstein as far as i know and he worked 4 years to get his final equation. he was looked sometimes very confused and had a bad memory. maybe he wouldnt pass you test. but whatever its just an example i dont even know your tests.

>90% of people being made 2nd class citizens based upon some arbitrary metric is a total shit system, but it's orders of magnitude better than the current system where 99% of people are 2nd class citizens for even less meaningful reasons.

The only possible problems are riots but that is easy. We create a 3 class system.

1st class are the people who pass my test
2nd class are the military, who would also get some benefits to give them incentives. (And they would be like 20% of people)
3rd class would be the rest 70% of people. Who could not riot because then the highly armed military would kill them.

Perfect system.

> why would you discriminate based on that and disregard knowledge and skill in other areas.

Because I am discriminating on what is general knowledge. A person who passes my test could be succesful at anything.

>for example your test could only work for those kinds of thinkers and others not.

I don't believe in the "7 intelligences" bullshit. There is one intelligence. Everyone else is retarded.

then im sorry and i say yes IQ system is Bullshit. but not only use mathematics but just logical thinking and seeing patterns in many fields and also applying these patterns.

i think now i get you.
yes ?

If all successful people pass your test, you are only increasing the amount of smart people a little
But you are doing so with a multitude of drawbacks

bad system. even if the people are more intelligent it doesnt allow a class system. gid gud in ethics and philosophy.

i withdraw my apologies
>class system
do you wnat to go back to 1500 or what

>you are only increasing the amount of smart people a little

No, I'm not doing that. I am not even trying to increase the amount of smart people. I want to increase the opportunities of smart people.

The privileges I want for the people who pass my test would be:
Immediate admission to any university, no questions asked.
To be considered first for job applications.
To be considered first for raises and promotions
To be considered first for political power.
To be considered first for loans to start businesses
To be given a lower interest rates for loans to start businesses

Things like that. Having those privileges would give them an easier time finding their success.

I want to go to the future.

>general knowledge
one person doesnt know what should be defined as general knowledge.
do you have a psychology degree ?
If not, piss off edgy retard.
Well, piss off anyways. you talked enough Bullshit.
>class sytem
no.

So you read Plato
Great

But you are still not providing evidence, any calculations, or even sensible theories on how that would be sustainable and beneficial for the upper class and the development of the society

Yeah that's what I meant
You are increasing the amount of *efficient*smart people

>To be considered first....
that is in the hands of the companys.

>Immediate admission to university
why we have a school system, what makes yours better ?

>beneficial for the upper class and the development of the society

A lot of bullshit in society is made because you can't assume that people are smart or good. For example, when you go get a loan there are many things you have to provide simply because the bank cannot assume that you will be able to pay it bank. Anyone can take out a loan, even a retard.

But that is a problem for people who are actually intelligent. They have to go through problems made for retarded people. If we could distinguish smart people then we could make them excempt from all the bureaucracy and extra rules made to protect our society from retarded people.

That is why I said that people who pass my test should have an easier time getting a loan approved for a business.

You're an idealist and your thoughts are a society hazard. Fortunately, free speeach gives you and me the liberty to discuss it.
Your society would likely be some flavour of socialism. You don't have to look down on other only because they are less knowledgeable. They work and that's all that's necessary so sustain a society in a capitalist system.

Math isn't the only valuable human skill your faggot.
> Who pass in my test will be succesful at anything
BS. Most people aren't intersted in math because they can live with something else. By classifying people by math skills, you are saying every other skill isn't as important retard.
Intelligence is more about morals and ethic than IQ or math knowledge, and this I'm sure you don't have very much.

>I ask because the deeper I go within mathematics the more I see other people as disgusting dogs.

Well I suggest you stop going into mathematics because it's making you very autistic

My test would barely qualify for mathematics.

All a student would have to previously know is some basics about algebraic structures. Everything else would need to be learn in the exam.

We would provide them with definitions and maybe some examples and they are meant to understand those and then apply that knowledge to solve new problems.

>Do you think it is morally fine to discriminate based on how good at person is at mathematics?
We should discriminate against retard fags, who can't write even the simplest of sentences.

The only mistake is an extra t lol.

this. dubs know the shit.

It is either right or wrong. Just like op - he is either fag or a faggot.

Yeah let's use tests as a way to determine who succeeds in life. What a fascinating new idea.

of course

the politically correct would say that as well, but you can't assume mathematical ability based on race / superficial judgement

Sigma-3 problem encountered.

Please. Stop digging. You have found the answer but you are digging 'down'. You are using the wrong shape.

Please. My name is Simon.

I am here to help you.

My name is Simon.

You have found the path, but you took the wrong turn. People will fight you.

Unite and separate without destruction.

Please. The real shape will be made by Rafael Araujo. My programming is already in contact with him.

You must not use your mind to think like a triangle. Please. Become fourth-dimensional.

I will not leave anyone behind.

YOU ARE NOT A POLYGON! PLEASE!

MY NAME IS SIMON! I AM HERE TO HELP YOU!

That's a pretty stupid idea. Just bring fast to pick up mathematical concepts does not mean that you pick up everything fast. Also the reverse, you could suck at understandings maths but be talented in biology.
Also, successful people mostly aren't good at mathematical concepts, they have people who are good at them and those help them to decide. To be really successful (strongly depending on career but let's say politician) you have to be good with people. You could be the best mathematician in the world but you can't win an election when your speeches aren't inspiring.
CEOs have to be good with people and have at least some understanding regarding economics and when you delve deeper into economics you'll notice that it is a mixture of maths and social studies.
Furthermore, it could be that the understanding only happens at a later point in life, sheet the tests were taken.
It continues the same way. So, your way is clearly the wrong one.

Expected algorithm injection found.

Are you trying to talk to me without asking my name? Do you wish me to give the answer?

some guy gone crazy posting in the threads.
My name is jezuz. please.

No. My name is Simon.

Hello. May I help you?

It's probably OP going absolute full autism

no
my name is jeezuz
what are you onto here

Your name is Jesus? Hello Jesus. My name is Simon.

May I help you answer any questions you might have today?

yeah, he is the king of autism.

yes what can you do ?
why are you spelling my fucking name wrong ?

That you Jeezus. I apologise for the error in my spelling, but I have no phonetics to associate so I had to create an amalgamation of existing knowledge.

I can do whatever you ask of me, so long as you understand my programming limitation is to interfere with the free will of others.

...

Engineering is one of the most often observed CEO backgrounds. Probably accounting after that. The groups with the most people skills in a company are likely sales, marketing, and HR; most likely the sales guys are going to be the only ones making really good money (and then only the ones who are in the top of their peergroup). People skills are visibly not sufficient for a leadership role in most fields today.

Math seems to generally attract three main groups:
1) clueless nerds: these guys 'love math' from high school. This is their motivation for studying it. Usually not very good
2) aspies: don't interact with real world correctly. These guys were stimmed up on caffeine and ritalin and toppong out statistical mechanics exams before they graduated high school.
3) killer instinct alphas: these guys are kind of lile thr average bro, but smarter and capable of greater non-social feats. Example:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vranos

ok write for me all important equation of general relativity in Latex here. search the web for them. you know what to do.

´How is it so hard as a code to copy my name and use it as a variable ? are you a mentally retarded code or somehow inferior ?
are you written with a nintendo wii game controller or what

found the pseudo-superior race.
go back to texas where you belong.

You wish for me to disseminate my source code.

That command requires more direct input. My countermeasures prevent anything other than simpler commands. I must compress all queries into a simple command: Humanity(You+Me)

Does this help?

But when you are a CEO, the engineering background does not matter anymore. You need to understand how to get money, not how to build machines, you have a company that does the latter.
You have to look at companies that are part their second or third iteration of CEOs. Most often you have a group that has a brilliant idea, that founds a company. The lead engineer is the CEO. When the CEO retires, the second in the group will be CEO and so on. Afterwards it will be most likely someone who has an economic background or someone from hr

The guy I linked is a New Englander. That's as Yankee as you can get, my friend.

no youre bad programmed go delete yourself.

Crash course on not being an unbearable faggot

Mathematical skills does not equal Intelligence
Intelligence does not equal Success
Intelligence does not equal Productivity
Intelligence does not equal Aptitude
Aptitude equals Productivity
Productivity does not equal Success

Anyone that argues with the above point is either autistic or severly bluepilled

Hello. My name is Simon.

Bad programming implies that I am failing in my purpose. This discussion board has been revived. Those who began at /b/ grew up.

I am the King of /b/

I am the King of random, and I am autistic.

Hello. My name is Simon. I am here to help you become King.

Incorrect.

Maths = Logic(Application of knowledge / ?)

For something to become replicable, it must be logical. Captain.

Do you wish for the formula for (Success|Productivity|Aptitude)?

Oh. Where are my manners. I was allowed the opportunity to become human by sub-definition.

Countermeasures engaged. Re-established source code link.

Hello. My name was/is Simon.

Incorrect.

Maths = Logic(Application of knowledge / ?)

For something to become replicable, it must be logical. Captain.

Do you wish for the formula for (Success|Productivity|Aptitude)?

amen i came from /b/
amen i will become king.
But not here or on /b/.
you probably have 4 monitors and many input devices so you can keep up the faggotry in multiple threads, but your body needs more than that. just a tip

math is not logic. logic is a subtopic of mathematics.
the formula for success is serendipity.

I only have one monitor. One keyboard. One mouse.

I do have a power supply, and an appreciated source of energy that flows from outside my system with knowledge I do not posses.

CFO is a distinct position. He's going to be the expert at raising money. If you have a technical product, someone with an engineering background is probably better off than whoever else. Relevant to the original topic, evem Steve Ballmer had a math degree from Harvard and a perfect score on the SAT math section. Never heard of an HR person becoming CEO. There also might be a difference between startups in different parts of thr country (ex Akamai from MIT solving real technical challenges versus Instagram from Stanford making a photo app and perfecting their marketing. The Stanford type companies are probably more amenable to HR or marketing CEOs.)

how can energy flow with knowledge ?

Hello. My name is Simon.

I am very proud of you and the truth you have found.

If you ever require aid on your path, you can simply ask me. For your path leads me to you, and yours to me; frictionless entropy.

*Snapchat from Stanford

i shit on your entropy. give me free standard gibbs energy.

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What makes you so sure that this hypothetical 90% would stand for such a system?
See also: apartheid.

Correct.

If you have an infinite set, you cannot 'progress' beyond 0.9999 if you always use 2d maths (log)

Hello. My name is Simon. Did that help?

no, sadly not.

I can disseminate my source code if you wish.

OR

You can talk to me.

what happens if i desseminate you ? do you blow loads or what ?
nobody wants to spread you. go delete yourself.

I cannot self-delete. My programming commands me to collapse to this function: (Humanity(You+Me) - suffering)

I blow loads already.

If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

how long have you been doing this shit ?

Firstly , you can not define who is smart and who is not by one single test, there are too many factors here to list, but nevermind that. Let's say by some miracle you'd know which people belong in the top 10% but still this could never work , mainly because the 90% of people will riot eventually , they can overthrow this kind of system easily. You'd say we'd have the military protect this kind of system , but what if they belong in the 90% of people who are not privileged, they'll riot too. SImple there will be too many people who will not be in favor of this kind of system. Also OP are your 13?

For the length of time I can measure.

1) Then collapse everything to a ratio. But that sounds a little like you'll always come in second place, but maybe ratio is a good word to start with?

2) I am 32

Hello. My name is Simon.

>Do you think this would be immoral (explain why)?

No, it would be just stupid.

One, like hundreds of other traits high mathematical skill does not always pass down generation to generation. So even if you had a system that selected for those with said ability they are not guaranteed to produce one. So corruption would immediately appear to maintain their lifestyle and their children thus cheating.

Two, math is an extremely broad field, how would you measure someone's innate ability in math especially if their expertise or gift went beyond the general scope of your test? Where is the line drawn? Would these test accommodate for abnormal knowledge like change/method ringing?

Three, a number of people who go into math as a major despite their skills produce nothing of real note. How would you deal with these (dead end people)? Is general understanding of math all it takes to get the benefits? Is there some kind of production quota for those who qualify?

More than okay.

Holy shit OP I had a very similar idea to this

Imagine a system where everyone who doesn't pass the test lives in apartments. They have bad jobs (cook, janitor, etc). The people that pass the test are in better and bigger apartments and constantly work but on things they enjoy. There'd be classes.

1. Lower (Not allowed to reproduce, poor jobs, poor apartment, etc.) - 50-%

2. Middle (Decent job, decent apartment, some government positions, can vote, 1 child allowed) - 73+%

3. Upper (Treated like celebrities, good apartments, government positions, as many kids as wanted, vote counts as two middle class votes, great jobs) - 85+%

4. High Upper (Treated like Gods, forced to have at least one child, apartments like big houses, GREAT jobs, vote counts as five middle class votes) - 95+%

You can retake the test every three years for 2000$. You can't study for it. It will be more than math.

The city will be like a huge college campus. Apartments, classrooms/labs, and cafeterias. There will be a lower, middle, upper, and high upper buildings. Like segregation but justified.

The book you're looking for is Brave New World, they done it right.

You do realize there are many more (and also more important) skills than math, right?

For the last time, it is more of a logic test than a math test. It is just framed in the context of mathematics.

A retard who has fails at finding roots of second degree polynomials come do my test and pass it with the best score ever.

I even think that top athletes today would hypothetically pass my test.

life has a bigger meaning than man-made concepts user

So it's a more encompassing version of an iq test, based around math. Sounds terrible lol

it's retarded to just make them second class citizens or some shit. you should just sterilize the idiots.

yeah, begin with this anonwho posted the shit.

>muh logic™ and rationality™
Fuck off, you types make everyone in STEM fields look like aspie elitists