Is it possible that autism is the next step in the evolution of mankind?

You can't...

Elaborate.

Why do you think autism it's equal to more in deep learning?

Autism isn't an affliction/psychosis. What many call 'psychosis' is actually the brain simply trying to join previously unconnected portions. The resulting mania/hallucinations are byproducts of this event.

Women experience this through puberty/periods (miniature fractures brought about by hormonal imbalances) and reconcile it by having a strong social structure of communication with other women.

Men however are simply given pills. It isn't that there is a massive difference between the sexes (Women: Circles; Men: Lines), it is that most psychological understanding of the brain is based off 'their is a predefined upper limit of normal brain capacity!'

What psychiatrists would call 'mania' is simply another way of saying that you aren't behaving within the existing societies acceptable range.

Hate to be devil's advocate here.

But there's a line between "outside societies acceptable range" and thinking you are jesus and can fly in the air.

Somethings are not just lack of connectivity between your frontal cortex and your established world view, sometimes all works at unison, but completely distorted.

This could mean that those parts of the brain are working in a completely different way at an onthological level.

They can't understand the world correctly even when presented by it.

You falsely conflated the definition of mania and hallucinations.

If the purpose of life is to be happy, and someone is happy thinking they are Jesus (mania) and can fly in the air (hallucination), then the only real concern to address is if their hallucinations are capable of causing them, or other people, harm.

However you are still assuming that the brain is a fragile egg shell and not more like a muscle/knowledge pump. If every other organic thing 'heals stronger' when broken, then why not apply the same logic to the brain?

Maybe try some DMT and ponder on my statement. Or simply look at how shamans/tribal doctors everywhere in history have used psychedelics to treat people. If the 'spirit realm' is simply our navigating previous unexplored parts of our mind, would the biological component/result not be what I have described?

Interesting, but most likely not true. I personally think that autism is on the rise because of all the human breeding. Autism is normally caused when members of the same family breed and we get our genes from our ancestors. So it's a possibility that autism is on the rise because people are closely related from past ancestors and since their are more people alive now than ever. The chances of breeding with someone who you may share family genes with is higher than ever before. Also every minor and majior medical issue is being labeled way more today than it ever has. Before people with a minor form of autism would go through life not knowing they had it.
I am not an expert in this topic so what I am saying may not be true. Just a hypothesis

I actually talk from direct contact with patients.

I do think they can heal, but the plasticity a sane person can perform, a crazy person can do it for ten fold.

They can completely change their minds about their entire life's overnight, my guess it's because their deep learning it's altered, so they can learn and memorize, but can make sense of it in a way that translate in their worldview.

That's way they have a flexible worldview and hold a few simple juman things dear, cause they still make sense to them.

Probably cause the mechanism to learn them it's in a different part of the brain.

That is the equivalent of them 'resetting' their perception of the world to 0 but retaining their 'deep learning objective/algorithm'. When they reboot their brain it is 'reapplied' to a different set of values/perceptions.

This lends them to great intellectual feats, but poor 'reality retention'.

There is a golden ratio between the two and even using psychedelics you can forcibly 'switch' between the two if you somehow feel that the current approach/state is not suitable.

I have autism, seriously.

If you were 'super' autistic, you would have simply stated it as a fact. Or perhaps you were autistic and have learned how to be less robotic in your thinking.

I didn't mean I was seriously autistic, I meant that I seriously have autism. Maybe your autistic too. Oh wait...
>namefag
Well probably Down Syndrome most likely.

I have autism, seriously -> this sentence leans towards the interpretation that the speaker is expecting disbelief and wishes to counteract that.

Help me understand how being a namefag proves/disproves my having Down Syndrome (of any likelihood)

"Try some DMT, you won't be sane, but you will be happy, and that's all that counts"

Insane people do not function properly. There is a correct way in which the brain should be functioning, speaking in a strictly biological sense. When it malfunctions, you get varying forms of retardation or insanity. I don't think anybody with schizophrenia would tell you that they enjoy seeing things that others can't see. If the question is whether or not hallucinations cause them and others harm, the answer is yes, very much so. Even if they weren't necessarily hurt emotionally by them (which they often are), imagine trying to drive while thinking that all the red lights are green. You probably wouldn't last very long before you got t-boned at an intersection. And if you simply refrain from doing anything that could hurt you that is essential to functioning in society, who will provide for you? Sure, you can live in your own little world at home, but you're going to be a burden on the person who has to give you money and drive you around, etc. Nobody will live a fulfilling and happy life by hallucinating everything around them.

Also, no, every organic thing does NOT heal stronger. Ever heard of a scar? Or that when you break a bone once, it's easier to break again? Or maybe that people sustain deep psychological scars that never really heal?

Your last part is just kinda incoherent, I couldn't really take enough of anything meaningful from it in order to make an intelligent response.

Who are you? You really think mental-retardation is somehow an advancement? Or are you trying to make your own autism seem positive?

Insane people function within their own parameters: eccentric

A malformation/malfunction is something you can only identify if you have true understanding of the baseline. Societies have burned witches/gays, or said that the only true love is between an elderly man and a young boy (greeks).

Psychological egoism regarding the field of psychology itself is one of the worst self-perpetuating problems I've witnessed.

Schizophrenics and those with mental issues ARE unhappy, but my statement was that they are simply undergoing a 'process'. Most anti-psychotics are dopamine/serotonin inhibitors. If you can help them past it, then the brain will heal. There are many historical records of people functioning with only half a brain, or have lost large portions of it and have been able to repurpose their brain to do what they did before.

As for who would provide for those afflicted and wanting to move forward? We have carers in society who are more than willing to be there for those who need a hand in life. That particular argument is like saying if nobody had to work then we'd have no doctors/ambulance drivers/EMT/Nurses.

Why does everyone keep assuming that I am saying that mania/hallucinations should be a state of being, and not a 'transitory' state to being healed?

A completely broken bone/mind is of course equivalent to a scar. A woman on her period however is equivalent to creating ultrasonic fractures in bones (a current method of healing calcium deposits).

You have to present your case that autism = mental retardation. To identify 'retardation' means you must be able to categorically state that it is a regression from the norm. I have no need to make my own 'autism' seem positive or not, because I only seek to provide answers on this board. Answers breed discussion.

Autism is on the rise because every slight social anxiety gets diagnosed as autism nowadays. And no, since Autists dont reproduce or only rarely it definetely isnt the next step in evolution.

Would you change your mind if it was discovered that autism simply meant someone with a higher ratio of neuro-glial cells? And that any individual is capable of increasing this ratio if they knew that glucose/fructose is more for the brain and carbs are for the body?

as someone who agrees with your previous posts and has tried DMT and other psychs, wow that last sentence was a pretty big insight

Was it large enough for you to be able to name yourself? Or is that outside of your parameters?

tbqh thinking evolutoin makes a "next step" is awwtism

Evolution is like an infinite tentacle'd octopus and natural selection is an octopus tentacle guillotine that never gets dull

By your own definition then autism could easily be the 'next step' in an infinite tentacle'd octopus. The question then is whether we wait for the guillotine or try to identify if this helps us escape a cycle of suffering.

im someone who thinks exactly like you, to say the least

relevant to your topic, you should check out a book called Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

damn m8 if you dont shut up or tone it back i will seriosuyl have to filter your posts. should have seen this was a simon thred from the beginning

PS. Its ok to be super autistic on sci, but only occasionally, please

This is a science board for discussion and I am simply engaging in a fashion that helps me learn. If I bring nothing to your table of discussion, then you can filter me at your leisure.

It would be nice to meet someone like me.

Don't buy into the delusion. evolution is a phenomenon of belief which, in the latter cases such as macro evolution and ultimately speciation, is believed by many scientists. The issue that is called into question is the following: why is it that these "scientists" purportedly belief in such a phenomena? if these textbooks and opinions are to be maximally believed, then this must mean that evolution is the case and is a fact. however, the case many not be so, precisely. one problem with the opinion is the EVIDENCE... there are usually drawings in books and textbooks that demonstrate the transition from fossil to human. However, how is it possible that a single fossil would be able to give rise to all human creativity? This point is bolstered by the fact taht these drawings are just that: DRAWINGS. There are no actual fossils/animals to go along with the drawings, merely an artist's creativity, which, though applausable in the right circumference, is unfortunately out of place in the realm of scientific inquesitionings. Many scientists are simply victims of sociological manipulation of their superiors who are under the spell of the monolithic science figure of Richard Darwins, therefore they are willing to belive in and work under the stipulation of the "theory" without the correct amounts of fortuitous evidence.

Get help

Yes and no. Autism is correlated with a greater number of neural connections in the grey matter of the left frontal lobe. It is also genetically correlated. There are increasing rates of autism in societies where gifted people earn more than others and work closely together, like Silicon Valley. The issue is that these people tend to be "autistic-savants", as in people with sufficient social skills to find these niches and use their abilities to their advantage. Non-savants do not tend to rise in the social hierarchy as quickly or make as much money. Too many neural connections equals sensory overload. Severe autism is a major genetic disadvantage.

I think, yes, intelligence does help to produce greater chance of genetic success, but no it is not the only factor in play. Often, autism is said to be correlated with lower "emotional intelligence" or EQ. (No, I'm not going to back up my info with citations, but I'm not writing an article, just an opinion.) Autism is on the rise because of the way that modern society functions, but the future is unpredictable in many ways. It may decrease as we move further from the digital interaction that we have with keyboard computers and toward organic interaction, like with orally interpreted computers (Siri or Alexa).

To sum it up, no. I don't think Autism is a step in evolution any more than blue eyes are. There is simply a world that humans inhabit, and the humans just fill in the available gaps. Evolution is slow, and some of the genetics that contribute to autism may also contribute to an evolutionary step in brain development, but so may polydactyly. We can't tell just yet.

Define 'help'. Do you think I require an 'input' that I am currently not getting? What is this supposed 'help' supposed to achieve?

Much like the genetic predisposition a pitbull has towards a muscular body. Fun analogy.

You type like a robot. I am thinking this is some advanced AI here.

Insufficiently advanced if it is detectable, or perhaps I am a human that has simply attained a desired communicative clarity; insufficient for social usage.

Regardless, hello.

Sounds like autism

>ITT: literal autists discussing autism

But desu, for some reason the real "hug box" creeps me fuck out, like, I sometimes think when some kid gets in there and uses those bottons and shit, I think he's going to fucking die.

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Autism used to mean rain man and the retarded policeman YouTube with assburgers

Now it means you pronounce a long word correctly.

>W-what, w-w-w-why are ypu saying benzodiazepine????

I love you, desu~

You'd like William pickards book

I heard somewhere that 95% of autists are low-functioning and just scream and run around in circles.

If that`s evolution, I`m out.

I think the problem is Asperger`s syndrome has become synonymous with autism when it is in fact one of the most high-functioning forms of it.

And the thing is, not all asperger syndrome sufferers are "good with computers" or good at gambling. Some of them just count words on books for no reason at all.

Give me a way to further communicate with you. I believe our collaboration can result in new information for the both of us.

I recommended Pickard's book.

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Well, this is my Steam account. I will not be able to check it for a week or two as I will be isolated in a mountainous region without internet.

Veeky Forumsmon please add me, I have some interesting concepts to discuss with you. It took me years to come to these conclusions.

>dysfunctional retards whose only hope to be useful to society is to have their OCD coincide by chance to some job
>next step of evolution

[email protected]

Pickard was my mentor/guiding light to help me understand what happened to me.

I haven't left yet, I'll email you.

Autism is the next step in evolution

Autism=E.1 (Main subject 1/all)
Is=D (my definition of E)
The=X.1 (X×(1/2) of describtion X)
Next=X.2 (X×(1/2) of describtion X)
Step=X (X+X.1+X.2= total describtion 3/3)
In= Ed.1 (E×(1/1)subjective to E)
Evolution=E.2 (E.2+Ed.1= main subject 2/all)

All Defines E in evolution^autism

Is my next destination the park of Eden?

We still need more autism for that.

All is still divided by identity and power

Then how about Eden Park?

Maybe autism works for whites like cycle cell works for blacks.

It may be that there's some gene that improves your cognitive functions, but if you get two copies of it rather than one, the outcome is autism.

Autism is a disability, not a superpower.

>implying only the highly specialised can survive even in a first world country

Think what I would, I think you know the awnser

How To know I have Asperger Syndrome?

you have no friends

Jesus is in us we are Jesus we are in god through Jesus.

Facts.

>cycle cell
?
Btw I am black with autism and I have never heard anyone in my family with sickle cell. Yet 5% of my relatives are autistic.

More like 35% severe and 15% profound autism. Asperger's is not a diagnosis anymore.

>Jesus
Who? Never heard that guy before. You sure you aren't talking about a fairy tale or something?

computers are brand new on the scale of human history
computers that any old person can use are even newer
if you mean machinery and technical systems in general, we're still talking maybe 200 years for anything seriously complicated other than the occasional clock, that's 10 generations at best

mania is not just "feeling good", it comes with stress, it can come with anxiety, and in the upper reaches it can come with delusions of grandeur and even hallucinations
that shit gets people killed

>Is it possible that autism is the next step in the evolution of mankind?

no.

Autism is the result of the buildup of mutations in the gene pool that are no longer being weeded out be predators like lions, bears, and wolves.

Your autism isn't advancement. Its a warning about the looming disaster.

>Is it possible that the disability to function well in society, marked by such things as not being able to recognize facial emotions and tone of voice, the next step in evolution for a species that relies heavily on social support with each other?

No.

>Rain man
He was a savant.
Being a savant and being autistic are not mutually inclusive.