Anyone here who sincerely believe in silly concepts/ human constructs such as the notion of "good" and "evil" is without any doubt intellectually limited and must be rebuked and repudiated for demonstrating such low IQ.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."; Jean Rostand, Thoughts of a Biologist (1939)
Many humans have a natural tendency to respect power, either out of fear, envy, or genuine reverence. This is why we forgive our politicians doing all sorts of horrible things that we would imprison or kill "regular" people for doing. Starting wars, sending others' kids off to die, squandering untold billions of dollars, wrecking the economy with ignorant economic policies, exercising arbitrary and capricious power over others, not caring about the consequences of one's actions, etc. Humans put a LOT of very unfounded faith in their leaders; it's one of our most irrational qualities.
Alexander Hall
>he/she Jesus christ, just say they. It makes you look slightly less retarded.
Blake Jenkins
He/she includes both woman and man while the word they can mean practically anything.
Jose Hernandez
>Atheism+
>>>/tumblr/ is that way
Nicholas Walker
>they means literally anything What else are you going to mean besides men and women? No one is going to think you're debating the concept of evil to a fucking chair or something.
Charles Watson
So, where the fuck is the science or the math in this thread?
Lincoln Sullivan
Evil = e-vile = vile = v-ill - sickness God the Good does not kill. People who reject good are evil and vile and repugnant. You're merely denying feelings so you are too ignorant to have anything of consequence to say. So easy to get through days without feelings; but cowardly
Jaxon Phillips
That is because you are thinking at the individual level.
However, that is incorrect. We are part of a larger organism called society. In the context of society, morals are very important.
Angel Martinez
Society itself is a human construct that differs from each other. So you're a basically a slave of an individual who has shaped society for his/her own benefit which means you are too coward to shape it your way.
Jacob Ross
>There is no empirically measurable factor that determines the moral value of an action.
Yes, that's true, but life without a working society is pathetic and, whether you like it or not, a working society requires the ability to judge a decision or event or person by its position towards society. Basically, any threat towards the functionality of said society is judged counterproductive, thus undesired and bad (and vice versa). If you can't comprehend this, you're a pitiful brainlet that thinks he's so much superior after his little existential crisis because he's discovered the 'objective way of looking at reality'. Yeah, good job snowflake.
Kevin Long
Only man and woman? Oy vey why are you not including fluidgendered transmachined pseudosexuals?
Jeremiah Nguyen
Wew lad only post your bad opinions on here from now on hheh
Thomas Gonzalez
OP imagine an ant, on its own in a field, with no colony How long would it last?
Humans are social animals
Adam White
Veeky Forums here. this shit is priceless
Jeremiah Gutierrez
just like your degrees
Austin Barnes
Refer to Society itself is a human construct that has no objective basis in reality and it is shaped by individuals and leaders as mentioned by the OP.
Common examples are Mao, Kim il Sung, Hitler,Stalin, etc..
Henry Ross
>society is an organism Wait, what? Do you know what an organism is?
John Flores
An evil person is someone who act for his own benefice at the detriment of others. A good person is someone who act for the benefice of others at his own detriment.
Zachary Thompson
So you say that altruism is good, and egoism is bad. Okay. Let's test that, shall we?
Someone sacrifices himself on an altar so that the gods bring rain. There is a drought instead. Everyone would have died because they didn't invest in irrigation for their crops, believing that the sacrifice was sufficient; luckily, there was one greedy landlord who saw the opportunity to expand his farm; he invests in irrigation, and his crops grow at a phenomenal rate, feeding everyone.
This may not be a real life example, but it is indeed possible, thus poking a hole through your assertion. Next time, base your argument on first principles.
This thread really belongs on Veeky Forums, so if you wish to talk more, move over there.
Owen Rodriguez
Wait, so you're saying there's no reason I shouldn't break into your house and use you as my personal sex slave until you die?
[spoiler]I like you.[/spoiler]
Bentley Price
>believing in god cringe desu
Grayson Smith
Yes [spoiler]If you can[/spoiler]
Aiden Howard
That doesn't poke a hole through anything. You're hiding details through summary:
>wanting to do something to help others and bring rain good intention coupled with faulty execution >everyone would have died bad result of faulty execution >investing for the sake of selfish gain bad intention coupled with an astute plan >investing well and seeing success result of an astute plan >enough success to feed others good result of an effective plan
It is entirely possible for an individual to have good intentions but bring about an objectively bad result. It's also entirely possible for the bad, selfish yearnings of an individual to have objectively good effects for others. Stop being so willfully dense. There does exist an objective scale of morality here: it would be better if the shrewd man, in addition to taking the steps necessary to secure his own agricultural success, helped others to use their land to maximize food yield for the sake of the people.
Logan Barnes
>An evil person is someone who act for his own benefice at the detriment of others. >at the detriment of others. The greedy lord had no intention to harm anyone, mutual benifit is not evil. The sacrificed had good intentions, he was a good person, despite the terrible results. Intention is everything.
Daniel Anderson
Chair here, i find that post offensive
Jack Murphy
Genius.
Ayden Martinez
>hurr durr I am very enlightened pls respond
Gavin Cox
So what you're saying is causing pain to everyone on earth for no reason except to cause pain is a scenario we are unfit to judge and analyze because history sometimes honors people who kill lots of people?
Aaron Hill
Your judgement itself is faulty as genocide conquerors are considered Godlike and have shaped society so you're just a dumb coward and worthless slave.
Grayson Morris
This is why scientists are retarded one sided plebs who never achieve anything of note unless they dabble in the occult. Moral relativism is pure peasantry.
Zachary Sanchez
please go the fuck back to and stay there this time
Tyler Ortiz
> Veeky Forums - Science and Math
Brayden Moore
>/x/ / = occultunderstanding you logic one sided fag
You're never going to be as good a mind as Newton or Einstein, because you neglect the intuitive, whereas they learned of the occult. Newton was a freemason who was into Rosicrucianist philosophy, Einstein was into sacred geometry. Tesla was into Golden Dawn practices.
It's not a conspiracy you plebeian filth. Purify yourself and your mind.