If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur

If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.

Therefore, the universe is deterministic. For if it were not, then there would be no guarantee that some particular event would occur, contradicting the fact that every possible event must occur (under the assumption that the universe is infinite).

And if the universe is deterministic, then there is no free will, since all decision-making entities are simply a part of the universe and subject to the physical laws of reality.

Q.E.D.

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False reasoning based on non-sequiturs but the conclusion is right.

philosophical ramblings belong on lit or his

>If the universe is infinite
it's not

Prove it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers'_paradox

I don't believe in an infinite universe but this isn't an argument and doesn't prove anything

Why do you let brainlets into your poopoo peepee fields?

This is such a retarded argument.

Stars get dimmer the further away they are. Of course you're not going to be able to see the ones that are really far away.

Meme Science, the universe can be infinite but it is NOT random so not everything that can happen will happen.

Between 1 and 2 there is an infinite amount of numbers, therefore there MUST be a number there that begins with a 3

that is offset by there being more of them

surface area is 4*pi*r*r

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.
Untrue

How do you figure that? Given infinite trials every outcome is certain.

Flip a coin infinite times.
Nan gets beheaded by Muslims.

You would first have to prove that the universe is infinite. We as humans don't even know if infinity even exists or is just a concept created by us.

tfw every neural impulse, etc. is the physical reaction, however complex, of previous reactions grounded all the way to the big bang (or equivalent)

existence is literally comparable to a controlled demolition

If you had a knowledge of the initial conditions and a computer more powerful than the universe, then you could simulate it down to this thread. Unfortunately this computer would have to be bigger than the universe, so it is impossible for humans or aliens to ever be able to predict quantum events.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell's_theorem is legit, I think.

OK so the universe is finite in time but is it finite in extent?

If you flip a coin x times, it will probably come up heads 50% of the time and tails the other 50%, with a trace amount of edge flips.

You will never get a salamander rather than a heads or tails. The coin will disintegrate before that happens.

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.
wrong

Very disappointed in Veeky Forums for entertaining such obvious bait

Can somebody please make a browser extension that uses machine learning to identify and automatically hide any threads in which the OP image contains a gorilla?

Brainlet that thinks Olbers's paradox is referring to an infinite universe. His paradox was an argument against the speed of light being infinite. If the speed of light was infinite, the sky would be the surface of the sun everywhere

1/3 has an infinite decimal representation but does not contain every possible sequence of numbers

If the universe is infinite then an exact atom for atom copy of me will be born infinite times and I am immortal

x = (-inf, inf)
sin x = [-1, 1]
if you are catching my drift.
just because something expands infinitely doesn't imply it contains everything. it can just as well be periodic.

That would require defying the laws of physics. Anything that CAN happen will happen, meaning anything within the laws of physics.

Yeah. But, when people say things like "There is a planet inhabited only by Batman", it ignores the sustainability ofsuch a circumstance and the way it would arise. Furthermore, it is still only theoretically that everything would happen, since, as we all know, you can flip a coin a quintillion times and have no heads. Infinite would be a bad way to describe it; unlimited, boundless, or infinitely expanding would be better. The universe does have an edge, which is just as far as the light's reached us.

Really, this is a moot point since the universe is very much finite.

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.

Why?

The observable universe is finite. We are talking beyond that. It may very well be infinite and boundless.

In the case of a boundless infinite universe, there IS a planet with only Batman. It doesn't need sustainability. It exists at every instant.

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur

So is there another universe where I have one extra facial hair? Two, three, ten trillion, or is there a limit?

How about where the monkeys write all your math equations that impress you so much? It's not as if any of you came up with any of the formulas: followers.

that's a chimpanzee you stupid fuck

>then every possible event that could occur will occur.
stopped reading there.

that's a bonobo you stupid fuck

All events occurring somewhere or some time in the universe is not determinism.

You're wrong and the guy you're quoting is correct.

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.
>Therefore, the universe is deterministic.

Let's assume for a moment that every possible event that could occur will occur. Is it theoretically possible to predict when all of those events will occur? No. So the universe isn't deterministic.

>There is a planet inhabited only by Batman
What happens when a planet with only Batman collides with a planet with only Jokers?

>then every possible event that could occur will occur.
What about the event that someone makes an actual nondeterministic free choice.

> 1/3 has an infinite amount of digits in its decimal expansion
>Therefore every digit that could be in a decimal expension will be in it

Lrn 2 logic m8

Doesn't work like that. How about pi? Let's say the digits are truly random. You would eventually find my phone number, and also the true exact number of subatomic particles in the observable universe.

>not knowing that light that is too far away shifts to infrared light and further down in the frequency spectrum until it's undetectable

just fucking immediately KILL yourself. I fucking mean it, this kind of brainletism shouldn't be tolerated anywhere, specially not on a science board. You make me fucking sick

This^2

>If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur will occur.
You can imagine a crystal lattice extending infinitely in all directions. If you substitute the same copy of a finite universe for each atom you'll have an infinite whole with a finite number of variations, with certain events and situations never occuring.

>It exists at every instant.
Not in the early stages of the universe, the elements for batman can't exist that early let alone the compounds

Wrong. If the universe is infinite, then every possible event that could occur is ALMOST CERTAIN to occur.

There is no law that states that in an infinite sequence of independent trials, every possible outcome (or sequence of outcomes) must occur. If the events are not independent, and are instead contingent on past events, you're assuming your conclusion.