Why the fuck scientist are so obsessed with """"mars""""" when earth is literal god tier planet in our universe and we...

Why the fuck scientist are so obsessed with """"mars""""" when earth is literal god tier planet in our universe and we still dont know very much about it?

what don't we know about earth

why the atlanteans retreated into its center

Every fucking thing
the fact that people are still believing in flat and hollow earth proves that we still dont fucking know the earth
99.9999% of ocean still is not explored as well

>hey I found this thing called algebra
>lol we have geometry and we barely know anything about it, you're stupid
>I guess you're right, we must finish geometry first

or

>john nash: thanks to my tools in algebra and analysis i can fucking prove all geometry

which one do you prefer brainlet?

Nice argument invalider. I choose neither. I choose to get drunk on a dog with a cat on my stomach. And guess what? I'm right. That is what I choose.

Hahaha

Nice false equivalency, buddy. Mars doesn't have anything new to offer beyond its geology and such, which is only useful for exploring Mars.

OP is right, but the benefits are questionable to pursue complete earth exploration just as they are with spending billions on space exploration.

Don't know enough about space other than the benefits of satellites for us, what are potential benefits for ocean exploration?

Well, earth is in the solar system which is in the milky way that is in the universe, as you are at home that is in your country that is on earth. So why shouldn't we go to mars and other planets? That will for sure improve our knowledge of the universe and therefore of our planet.

Plato kept eating them

>He doesn't realize that people want to go to mars because it's a planet made out of mars bars

Exploring Mars could be a plus. Terraforming is a beautiful fantasy.

Basically this, people want to be the next armstrong to do big shit and go down in history

>big science jews claim earth is round
>biggest hole ever dug is less than a few miles deep when they claim diameter of earth is like 8000 miles long

>inb4 its too hard!
Yeah, they have unfalsifiable jewish lies for everything.

>Why the fuck scientist are so obsessed with """"mars"""""
They're not, those that are are disproportionately reported though.

Because people are ignorant and have no idea how perfect our planet is for human beings and how hostile everywhere else is.

Earth has too many niggers

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>Earth has a surface that is 196,936,994 square miles.
>Water covers 139,825,265.73 square miles of that.
>Land covers 57,111,728.26 square miles of that.

>Mars has a surface that is 55,742,106 square miles.
>Mars requires you make domes to live in.


Why don't we just live in domes under the sea? That's like 2.44 times more real estate than we already have and it is sitting right there for the taking. Mars can fuck off.

>blah blah blah
>if we only had money from the military to use on science

What a naive opinion. That's only 1 major problem with that pipedream.

>Why don't we just live in domes under the sea?
The pressure

Eh. There's certain things, like why do you need 1,000 nuclear missiles when 100 are perfectly sufficient to kill almost everybody in the world, why are you spending $3.5 trillion on a new fighter jet that's shittier than the ones you already have, why do you need a dozen aircraft carriers when they will be sunk five minutes into a war if you're fighting somebody you would actually need aircraft carriers against, etc.

>why do you need a dozen aircraft carriers when they will be sunk five minutes into a war if you're fighting somebody you would actually need aircraft carriers against
I've always wondered this. Any nation with a couple dozen moderately advanced missiles can take out a carrier group.

>pressure in the ocean increases by about 1 atmosphere for every 10 meters of depth

>Ocean basins cover approximately 71 percent of Earth's surface or about 361 million square kilometers (140 million square miles).
>Their average depth is 5,000 meters (16,000 feet), and the total volume is about 1.35 billion cubic kilometers (322 million cubic miles).

>5,000 meters = 500atm
>1atm = 14.6959psi
>500atm = 7,347.95psi

>China, with its Jiaolong project in 2002, was the fifth country to send a man 3,500 meters below sea level, following the US, France, Russia and Japan. On June 22, 2012, the Jiaolong submersible set a deep-diving record when the three-person sub descended 22,844 feet (6,963 meters) into the Pacific Ocean.[3]

>Among the most well-known and longest-in-operation submersibles is the deep-submergence research vessel DSV Alvin, which takes 3 people to depths of up to 4,500 metres (14,800 ft). Alvin is owned by the United States Navy and operated by WHOI, and as of 2011 had made over 4,400 dives.[4]

>James Cameron made a record-setting, manned submersible dive to the bottom of Challenger Deep, the deepest known point of the Mariana Trench on March 26, 2012. Cameron's submersible was named Deepsea Challenger and reached a depth of 10,908 metres (35,787 ft).[5]

Seems easy enough to me. Costs less than putting a doomed colony on Mars.

there's no sun in the deep ocean

Every one of the super dives you've described only lasted a matter of hours and always put extreme stress on the vehicles involved

Please leave.

I'm a biologist and I think space and rockets are as cool as the next guy, but the ocean certainly deserves at least equal funding. It's definitely a lot more relevant to more people that are currently living.

>Why the fuck scientist are so obsessed with """"mars"""""

Firstly scientists are not obsessed with Mars. Mars gets a lot of funding within NASA because of muh exploration and the possibility of sending astronauts, neither of which is science. Secondly Earth Science is vastly bigger than any Mars budget.

Mars will always have more funding than deep ocean because people want to live on Mars (therefore there is economic incentive) but nobody wants to live in the pitch black on the ocean floor.

But thats wrong.

that % of unexplored ocean gets bigger everytime someone posts it

Most of the ocean is empty, there is nothing of value

Orrrrrrr maybe setup another feasible habitat for our species...

Not a problem.

No one has even been to Mars

Every space-faring species needs to start somewhere.

With a self sustaining mars colony, we could avoid utter omnicide/other complete extinction event.
Some people are incorrect in their view of the universe, I'll agree, but that doesn't mean our collective knowledge is lacking.
Just because we don't understand the biology of some fuckin jellyfish that lives in the Mariana Trench isn't a reason to halt humanity's progress. Even if exploring the ocean were somehow mutually exclusive from exploring space, I'd pick the latter any day of the fucking week.

Floating cities underwater cities, good practice for building cities in space

We've been to the moon which is objectively worse than Mars

What you should be saying is "nobody has traveled to Mars"

>Not a problem.
It is actually. It's the reason why there's relatively little life and biodiversity there. Living in the deep ocean is akin to suggesting people should live in the middle of the sahara or the antarctic. Yes, there are people who live there, but at an exorbitant expense from tons of people who DON'T live there, let alone attempting to be self-sufficient.

There's lots of exploration opportunities for Mars

>alien life
>past evidence of alien life

Who lives there.

NASA is part of the entertainment industry.

>overpopulation

Stopped reading there.

Why did you put mars in quotations? Do you think Mars doesn't exist or something?

>Some people keep pretending to be retarded
>Therefore all of humanity is retards
nice

Also it doesn't matter if we haven't visited every single spot in oceans, most of it is pretty much homogeneous and contains nothing of interest. Even most of the few interesting spots are just "huh, cool" tier. Not all that important for humanity.

Most of Veeky Forums hasn't seen the sun in years. Your argument is invalid.

I'm okay with this.

Because we need a back-up rock to live on in case this one goes to shit.

Not without getting past missile defense. Do you think the carriers are out there alone, or something? They have other kinds of ships that have pretty crazy missile defense systems and the carriers don't get very close (which is the entire point of a carrier). Also worth mentioning is tactics that are used to confuse the missiles' navigation and targeting systems.

>A few moderately advanced missiles

wouldn't get through a strike group.

Correct. Carriers are normally part of the main body of the fleet with all sorts of crazy escorts. Most have some pretty good defenses ranging from missiles to sea whiz.

Uh... Wrong image.

"Why do you need..." arguments of wasteful spending are irrelevant. Money doesn't solve all problems. You could throw all the resources of the earth into terraforming Mars and establishing a habitat and it still ain't gonna fucking happen before we implode this version of civilization like we've imploded every version before.

People all have limbic systems and limbic systems make you jack into neurotransmitter feedbacks. Scientists are no different.

Mars is popular because it's fashionable. Also because of all the status worshipping going on with Elon Musk. Mars is, and will for the foreseeable future, a pipedream to nowhere. Within twenty years, globalization will be in meltdown and we'll be fighting for the last resource scraps.

You don't elect lunatics when times are good. Cultures do it when they're junkies and they can't live in a reality of constraints. The future is not Mars, it's a fucking bathtub drain.