Why does Veeky Forums get so triggered that black writers write about racism and slavery and shit like that? It's what they know for most of their lives. Colombians write about guerilla and cocaine, Japanese write about anime and honor, Indians write about English colonies and poo, the English write about fog and rain.
What is it that makes so many here lose their shit when a dindu writes about being a dindu???
I think because it's cliched and worn out- everybodys seen these plots and characters a million times.
There's also the preachiness of that type of fiction, coupled with the fact that American kids who went to public schools had English classes that tried to teach leftist moralism before they taught sentence structure and prose.
So they get triggered by the prioritizarion of message over quality and they remember high school where they were bullied and they don't find anything new in these pieces.
I would not mind reading a talented black writers take on these subjects if it was actually good writing and the idea should were somewhat fresh. I liked the sellout- I thought it was funny. I did not like between the world and me, it was preachy and boring.
A lot of people here think that racism is justified because blacks are inherently inferior beings
In fact, I'm one of them
Iceberg Slim wrote about being a dindu and was good.
It's just this pandering to bleeding heart whites look at my darkness shit that is tiresome.
Real nigga shit is potentially great.
It's also why Kendrick is shit and Gucci is great, for example.
I don't know any blacks that are slaves
The same reason Veeky Forums gets triggered about J.K Rowling, John Green, Stephen King and the like
It's because they have both the marketable literary skills as well as the social and commercial acumen in the modern world as reflected obviously by their fame, while Veeky Forums tries to rationalise their shortcomings in both those fields
Then why does Veeky Forums get triggered over genuinely great works of literature like invisible man or Song of Solomon?
Low hanging fruit, most black people refuse to think about themselves as human beings just like all races are, instead they take part in group mentality, absolutely incapable of expressing themselves as sole individuals. It's always about "my race that" or "this race that". They have no sense of universalism or the bigger picture.
Memes to be frank with you.
I didn't know 150 year old black people existed.
>muh oppression
bullshit.
Delaney is black and writes borderline genre science fiction, it's decent but he gets shit on for being a pedophile, yet Desade is lauded for writing his boring scat anime.
Because writers like Morrison don't write for black folks, they write for neoliberal elites, who need to feel all woke and shit. Morrison taught at Princeton for most of her career.
Because its overdone.
The only novels about racism that are relevant are ones from the 1900s. Racism isn't even a thing anymore, and nigs perpetuate racism by crying that its the thing holding them back, not their own incompetence and stupidity.
Novels about racism today are either attempted cash grabs, or books written by dumbfucks who genuinely think that they didn't get hired because of their skin color. Not because they walked into the interview in sagged jeans, a dirty t shirt and said NIGGA during the interview. no no no
The world isn't the lord of the rings- these populations are too large to say anything meaningful about "general characteristics."
Even if you were right, most blacks in the US are the product of tons of interracial mating pairs. They've got about as much in common with Africans as your average white guy in the US has in common with one of his ancestral European countries.
I guarantee you there are blacks out there that you'd outtest, outrun, outlift, outfuck, and out-read.
There's also at least one who can bench, dead, and squat more than you, who speaks four languages and is getting a degree in something prestigious, who fucks like a champ, and who had a great relationship with both their parents. And even then there's probably whites Mexicans and Asians who do all that better than him.
There is no order to any of this.
>racism isnt even a thing anymore
>I've never actually read Japanese literature
lol idiot.
>Why does Veeky Forums get so triggered that black writers write about racism and slavery and shit like that?
>It's what they know for most of their lives.
>racism and slavery and shit like that
>It's what they know for most of their lives.
>slavery
>It's what they know for most of their lives.
ok you tard fagette here's the ugly truth: you know how black populations produce super athletes that seemingly naturally dominate at sports? Thats because there is literally, and I can't emphasize the term literally enough cause its fucking reality mate, literally more genetic diversity in black populations. This means you get more genetic outliers friendo. Not the part you might want to slit ur feminine wrists over is that the fact that the outliers aren't limited to solely athletic potential but also exist in the mental realm. This, my gay friend, means that there is an Usain Bolt of the brain somewhere out there in world and its a black person.
>Racism isn't even a thing anymore, and nigs
>Racism isn't even a thing
>and nigs
>Racism
>nigs
yeh
Because heard mentality politics go against the philosophically venerated idea of the individualism. A lot of these "social justice" movements have the same core ideas as fascism, which is that a mighty faggot is much stronger than a bunch of undisciplined limp wristed sticks, and when you get right down to it, these groups are just playing the dirty game of race politics.
Whereas much of western politics, at least those derived from the French revolution, are based on the idea of a universalized individual enjoying certain rights and responsibilities under a faceless, faithless, raceless state. In practice of course, this isn't practiced, but it's the ideal.
Except for a few dumb liberal white kids who think in terms of black and white (lol) most people see through this. Most "white" people are also getting tired of being painted as the oppressors simply because they weren't the losers of history. My ancestors fought in the IRA against imperialism, immigrated to the new world to escape persecution, and have dragged themselves tooth and nail out of the ghettos and into the middle class. Meanwhile, I've had niggers threaten me and try to rob me because they assume their skin somehow entitles them to some sort of special untouchable victim status.
Nearly every group in history has been enslaved or oppressed at one point in time. The only difference is the blacks don't even have a history beyond that. They're just human cattle for the new world, their "culture" is shit, and they have no successful countries or beautiful history to be proud of. Its an uncomfortable truth, but the only way that I can think of American blacks gaining any respect would be to simply appropriate American history as their own, and start assimilating just like almost every other ethnic group here.
I'm lucky enough to live in Canada where we don't have to deal with this bullshit, our social justice movements are usually based on legal battles between tribal groups attempting to preserve their autonomy and traditional communities, rather than some trend hopping niggers wearing expensive shoes and killing themselves with drugs.
I don't want to come off as a Naziboo, and I invite any black anons here to disagree with me, but I'm tired of scumbags like Malcolm X or most black rappers being glorified. It's fine to be proud of your culture if there's something to be proud of, but black people don't have that, so there's really no reason for them to continue existing as a social class.
my fucking sides
Veeky Forums doesn't get triggered by those.
Veeky Forums is angry and entitled. They dislike being told that experiences outside of their own have inherent value, while theirs are only interesting if communicated in some extremely gimmicky and novel way (and this is what everyone on Veeky Forums thinks literary merit constitutes). They've literally made Eliot Rogers their poster boy ffs. QED.
>It's fine to be proud of your culture
Unless you've actually worked to improve your culture, being proud of that is as retarded as being proud of being left handed. You didn't fucking choose that culture, you didn't do anything to deserve being a part of it, you just happened to be born into it.
>It's fine to be proud of your culture
>in an anti-identity politics post that venerates individualism
That's what they want you to think, cuck, because your stunted mind can only conceive of "pride" as some kind of twisted hedonistic thing, just a source of narcissistic pleasure. Pride is an obligation and a source of inspiration, not something you rest on.
Enjoy being a man without a country and an atomised consumer slave of the powers that be.
>This is my country,
>The land that begat me.
>These windy spaces
>Are surely my own.
>And those who here toil
>In the sweat of their faces
>Are flesh of my flesh,
>And bone of my bone.
Everything is determined including your own genes and existence so being proud of anything you do do yourself is retarded as well by your logic.
Choice is a meme, pride is arbitrary. Might as well be proud of what you want.
>I don't have to accomplish anything worthwhile in order to be proud of myself, other people of the same race/cuontry as me already did it for me
Great, so when should I, as a white American southerner, publicly apologize for slavery?
Nah man it obviously doesn't work that way
You can be proud of your culture because people from the same culture did great things even though you contributed absolutely nothing to them, but you can't be ashamed of your culture just because some people from the same culture did some shitty things.
>It's also why Kendrick is shit and Gucci is great, for example.
Kendrick doesn't even write mostly about white oppression or anything though.
It's more why Talib Kweli gets annoying after about three songs
How is that not a contradiction.
/pol/ak immigrants are not Veeky Forums
I realize you're being sarcastic, but Im less concerned with truth than results. A knowledge of history and a strong set of values have benifited countless people throughout history. Like the other user said, pride is an obligation.
Personally I think of history as a maluable mythos that can be used to shape the future rather than a set of objective facts that only exist in the past. If you aren't appropriating it for your own good someone else will.
The problem with modern liberals is that they trust so little in their ideology that they constantly need to chain it to "facts" and "reason" in order to reassure themselves of its inherent value.
good post, but it's past your bedtime, Georges.
Racism is power PLUS prejudice, silly anons
Goddamn big brother ass nigga
His name alone is a warning.
Based Sorelianist brother.
>They dislike being told that experiences outside of their own have inherent value
>this is proven by their contrarian admiration of elliot rodgers, a person who society at large decided had no inherently valuable experiences because his were not its own
>slavery is what they've known most of their lives
>Like the other user said, pride is an obligation.
If any there's any feeling towards your culture that can be considered "obligatory" that feeling is love, not pride
>playing semantics
>It's what they know for most of their lives.
I doubt this narrative so much. I get the feeling that people inflate their once per 5 year uncomfortable encounter with a racist taxi-driver as somehow indicative that their subjective experience of society is any different from the rest of us and is axiomatically profound.
It's literally another symptom of wanting to virtue signal to an audience filled with revenge-pornographic leftists.
> Implying lit aren't all permavirgin failures
...
Every author writes about muh [my group] experience, you retards just don't notice it when white people do it.
Stay mad, fags.
t. Only black guy on Veeky Forums
you're retarded
oh damn, i must be projecting i obviously meant that i'm retarded
anyways, you're fucking retarded
>everyone doing it
yeah, I guess if my IQ was sub 80 Id probably only write about identity and my paranoid faith that the entire world secretly hates me too
>what are statistics
>only black guy on Veeky Forums
nah, there are a few. nobody mentions it because it's a good way to derail a thread.
t. other black guy
I wonder when leftist academics will realize that if you go by their arbitrary redefinition, racism actually doesn't exist at all in the developed world.
Turns out literally every liberal academic who unironically shouts down orthodox marxists as "class reductionists" is himself a cultural reductionist.
They couldn't possibly admit that material conditions in the first world don't allow oppression by one "identity" group of another because it would force them to deal with material conditions, collapsing their whole ideology
Would you beat me up if I said "nigger" in real life
You're not the only black guy on Veeky Forums, you're just one of the few who feel the need to bring it up for attention
?I don't read any of that stuf because i'm french
>you can't love people without being proud of them
I'm not proud of just about anything my brother does. He's a fucking asshole of a person. I still love him.
Depends on the context.
I've been called nigger at work on more than a few occasions. I didn't want to make a thing of it because I was new and i really enjoyed the job. I actually became close friends with one of the guys that was racist. He grew up in a small white-supremacist type town in the South, and I was the only black person he had ever met so I empathized with his ignorance.
If you were just some guy trying to be a dick and offend me, yeah I'd probably put you on the floor.
>racism is inversely related to being around black people
implications
Do you think someone calling you a nigger is really that ignorant while you freely admit you're willing to chimp out over a word?
You're willing to commit criminal battery in response to free speech. Sounds like a niggery thing to do.
A lot of it is just that Veeky Forums is shit at examining literature is all. Morrison writes about guilt and sexuality but because she's a black person writing about black people it's bad. Ellison writes about existential alienation but because he's a black writer writing about black people it's bad. Nobody would have this problem if they did any amount of close reading.
I don't know what kind of psychological contortionism it takes to convince yourselves of that your moral fiber is anything less than horseshit, but yes, growing up in a town known for white supremacy tends to be conducive to racism.
And yes, I have enough self-respect to lay hands on a person who thinks it's okay to belittle me or devalue me publicly on such superficial terms. Charging your argument with cheap buzzwords like "chimp out" and "niggery" and implications of crime only emphasize your reliance on cheap rhetoric to justify your inability and unwillingness to fight for yourself, or the fact that fighting for yourself is a wasted effort because you're nothing worth fighting for.
Blacks are only good at running dumbass
>assaulting someone when they hurt your feelings
They decided he had no inherently valuable experiences because he committed mass murder
Are you really that against physically striking someone for verbally degrading you?
Even the Constitution defends that shit.
I mean you're saying it makes him oversensitive but just standing there and getting shit on doesn't make any sense
>Implying my feelings would even be hurt
>implying a fistfight is assault
>Officer that guy punched me!!
>Why, what happened?
>I called him a nigger to his face
this isn't even autism it's full-blown retardation
holy shit go back to africa
Physically assaulting people because they say words that make you angry does make you a savage.
You do realise that this is unacceptable in civilised society and is in fact a crime, right? I'm not making any 'implications', I'm stating facts.
Pic related, it's someone who reasons like you.
Where does the constitution say that hearing naughty words justifies breaking laws?
> I have enough self-respect to lay hands on a person who thinks it's okay to belittle me or devalue me publicly on such superficial terms
Fuck you
I'm not black but if someone insulted me to my face I'd hit them
Like if I were black and someone told me to go back to Africa I'd beat them.
I know lots of fucking white people who would hit a person for insulting them verbally, I think you guys might just be gigantic pussies.
Lots of white people are savages as well, it's not limited to niggers like you.
You don't have to be a pussy to not get butthurt over a phrase, just a calm and reasonable person.
>I know lots of fucking white people who would hit a person for insulting them verbally, I think you guys might just be gigantic pussies
Sounds like you've internalized negro gangster culture like many other whites. Sorry you are so easily swayed, but I have a right to live in a civilized society where arguments are not met with violence due to your fee fee's
Calling someone a nigger is not an argument, it's a provocation.
A civilized society isn't one where people can go around insulting others without consequence.
I'm not fucking black. But if you call someone a nigger and expect nothing to happen then you're not a reasonable person.
Calling a black person a nigger is simply stating a fact. I would not be offended in the least if someone called me a white man.
Okay, just enjoy getting your ass beat and refusing to actually understand why
>Calling someone a nigger is not an argument, it's a provocation.
>A civilized society isn't one where people can go around insulting others without consequence.
Yes it is, otherwise you lose freedom of expression. If you say 'you are allowed to say anything but it can't be a provocation' you are simply manipulated into not saying anything opposing parties mind find offensive.
A drawing of Muhammad is a provocation. A society in which drawing Muhammad can not go unpunished is not civilised. A society in which you can not say nigger isn't either.
baka
>I'm not fucking black. But if you call someone a nigger and expect nothing to happen then you're not a reasonable person.
I'm not saying I would not expect a nigger not to chimp out, I'm saying that chimping out over naughty words is the sign of an uncivilised savage.
spotted the nigger
too much hook, not enough bait.
just let the thread die
Let's see if I can give the most awkward answer that still seems pretty true to me: It's because there's a lack of regular black people who read books. It's also because many of those who do read books are like their counterparts of other races. They feel like they're God's gift to humanity with how smart and cultured they are. Because those people are still irrevocably black, they carry that baggage along with the standard black people baggage about slavery and Jim Crow and the fire hoses and all that. That combination is an annoying mix, you can see the same thing some Latinos, and in some whites who are anti-white, and some whites who are pro-white. They read some books and they spoke to some people of the race(s) in question (who were probably either smarter or dumber than most) and think that means they have the answer to everything (or they pull that "wise man" crap and say there are no answers and we need more questions, while providing biased questions).
I would never actually call a black person a nigger to their face. I know they are predisposed to acting violently due to their low impulse control, avg. IQ of 85, and other unsavory traits which will almost guarantee me being assaulted as a result.
>pure fantasy: the post
>ask a black guy if he'd chimp out over being called a chimp
>he chimps out while talking about how he'd chimp out because he's offended at your implication that he's a chimp
Can blacks ever escape from the Chimp Spiral?
I wish, brother.
I wouldn't attack a person unless I felt threatened.
You're right, he is incorrect.
Only American blacks haver an average IQ of 85 because they have some white admixture.
Full blood blacks have an average IQ of about 70, a score that would be interpreted as cognitive impairment in a white person.
you and i must be living in alternate realities or some shit. i genuinely cannot see or relate to what you're talking about
>I insulted a person to their face and they hit me
>they hit me so they deserve to be insulted
Can spergs ever escape the autism spiral?
that's a nice looking graph. do you know where it came from?
who was the nigger who put "fighting words" and defined hatecrimes by the sounds coming out of someones mouth when committing a crime?
Never knew Veeky Forums had this many black people. It's honestly kind of refreshing
Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen (2006). IQ and Global Inequality. Washington Summit Publishers: Augusta, GA. ISBN 1-59368-025-2
I know you're smirking and chuckling your head off right now, but literally anyone with a keyboard can bait /pol/.
If you're no longer high school age, you should be ashamed.
well since the crime statistics that show reported violent are 'racist' and a global average IQ measurement doesnt work, would you like a picture of a smiley face for your cognitive dissonance to declare it frowning too?
there's probably only 2 black people itt + me pretending to be black baka