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I'm normally pretty forgiving of pompous talkin' from legit smart dudes, but Bloom definitely seems like he hams it up a bit. There's a bit of gay theatre in him or something.
Butthurt guntard?
>1cuccco
damn...
I just think its weird that hes so fanny-flustered about sanders supporters studying blood meridian as a critique of american imperialism, when he read it as a critique of the second amendment and gun culture.
Also, if he really hates the politicization of literature, wouldn't he be supportive of GWB not reading any books [which is false]? That way George couldn't recite lines from the Iliad as a call to arms etc.
given how he is lauded on this board for his 'anti-political defense of the canon' this criticism seems salient
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Its pure ideology, there is no apolitical readings of literature
>Why do you insist we need to memorize poetry, Mr. Bloom?
Democracy.
>I'm sorry, could you ela-
DEMOCRACY
/thread
When did he say anything about Sanders? I assume he voted for Sanders.
>[Angels in America: A Gay Fantasia on National Themes] merited inclusion as the very last item in Harold Bloom's controversial list of what he considered to be the most important works of literature, The Western Canon (1994).
An excerpt:
Louis Ironson: Well, oh boy. A gay Republican.
Joe Pitt: Excuse me?
Louis Ironson: Nothing.
Joe Pitt: Oh, I'm not... no, forget it.
Louis Ironson: Not... Republican? Not Republican?
Joe Pitt: What?
Louis Ironson: What.
Joe Pitt: Not gay. I'm not gay.
Louis Ironson: Oh. Sorry. It's just that sometimes you can tell by the way a person sounds. I mean, you sound...
Joe Pitt: No, I don't. Like what?
Louis Ironson: Like a Republican.
Joe Pitt: Do I sound like a...?
Louis Ironson: What? Like a Republican? Or do I?
Joe Pitt: Do you what?
Louis Ironson: Sound like a...
Joe Pitt: Yeah. Like a... I'm confused.
Louis Ironson: Yes. My name is Louis but all my friends call me Louise. I work in word processing. Thanks for the toilet paper.
[Joe goes to speak, but Louis quickly plants a kiss on his cheek before exiting, leaving Joe slightly shocked]
I hate this style of dialogue, those unfinished sentences are so frustrating.
Isn't that the point?
He learned English by reading Romantic poetry, so it's unsurprising.
he never did, i just used "sanders supporters" to approximate his 'school of resentment' because in undergrad the correspondence is more or less 1:1. sorry if i confused you or if that was unfair of me.
wow thats something. he's disavowed the list though, and he might just be forecasting rather than hoping w/r/t this entry.
i also see the book is from 1994. the video in OP is obviously pre-2000 as well. i wonder if hes changed his mind.
agreed.
Well, then the point is stupid.
No, Bloom genuinely loves Tony Kushner's work and I'm pretty sure is friends with him IRL. Although he says:
>Kushner passionately insists that he is a political dramatist, but reading his plays and attending their performance persuade me otherwise.
source: Bloom's Modern Critical Interpretations essay collection on Kushner
It's a fucking play. Have you ever read Chekhov?
No.
Then do so.
Okay.
Seriously, do it. He's, together with Ibsen, the most important dramatist of the 19th century. I'm not saying you have to run right now to the nearest bookstore to get his complete works, but you should pick him up sometime.
>Ibsen
truuuuuu
it's like John Green wrote a dialogue
Having an opinion on the literacy of the president isn't the "politicization of literature" you moron
I had a dream last night where I shot him as he berated me for not being original.
His future self congratulated me, shook my hand and said he was proud.
Also I was Big Boss.
yes, just casually ignore the most integral part of the post.
Bloom has the wondrous power to open any book and yet read whatever bullshit fuckery he wants.
What are you talking about?
Fuckin what? He's from the Bronx.
He reads whatever he wants into a book.
He's from a Jew neighbourhood and a Yiddish only speaking home and went to Yiddish school. He first learned English visually, from books. He says it explains his idiosyncratic pronounciation.
I understood what you said but I see no reason for you to believe this.
Have you read him?
I've partially read some of his "Bloom’s Modern Critical Views" books but he only does the introduction for those.
That's pretty funny, to be honest.