The real reason you can't travel back in time

This is going to be a two parter at least. Please be patient for the entire first OP to be released before posting thoughts.

had this realization sometime ago. I've thought about and played with the idea of time travel throughout my life and I realized a fallacy that almost no one ever seems to notice. I looked it up to see if anyone else realized it and there was nothing written about it.

Then I thought perhaps it was already refuted a long time ago and that's why it never comes up. Turns out that isn't the case either, or else the refutation would be all over the place.

I think I really have something here.

Often the explanation why we can't go back in time involves speaking about light speed, etc. But the actual problem is when people imagine going back in time, they unknowingly create a second 'them'. Even scientists and theoretical physicists seem to overlook this fallacy.

So when we travel forwards in time, like during space travel, because of gravity, speed, etc. you can think of it as if we are slowing down, and everyone on earth in the normal time stream is going faster (this isn't a technically perfect or correct explanation but it's the best way to make the point I'm getting at.) Our atoms, molecules, 'us' do not leave the universe, don't cease to exist, and don't change form drastically, instead we age, relatively, slower than someone in a different time stream.

However, when people think of going back in time they don't apply the same logic that applies to the very real, travelling forwards in time. They personalize it and picture themselves as being themselves, going back in time, as a human. In other words, they picture time reversing streams for only them, they have their own separate time stream now, apart from the universe, and effectively clone themselves.

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Let me explain. If you went back in time, the atoms, molecules etc. that make you, don't suddenly cease to exist. Just like in the real life version of being able to travel slightly into the future, two you’s don’t exist, you don’t suddenly split in two, you can’t meet the future you because the future you and the you of now are the same. The universe doesn’t gain or lose atoms/information just because you’re travelling through time.

So the real reason why you can’t go back in time is this: The atoms etc. that are ‘you’ are scattered, and are not in the form of ‘you’ when you go back beyond the point of your birth. Also, your brain can only perceive going forward in time (this is apparent by every day experience and no known cases or perceivable cases to prove it otherwise.) Therefore, even if you WERE travelling backwards in time, you would perceive yourself as going forwards in time.

Another way of putting this, is that travelling to the past could never happen, because it would only be a ‘reversal’ of time, that which has already happened. For you to travel backwards in your forward state, there would have to now be a bending of time only for you, and you couldn’t exist in the same universe because ‘you’ already exist in there. There is no reason or mechanism to suppose that there can be two you’s existing in the same universe. Even if ‘you’ are just scattered atoms throughout the cosmos, your double existence would theoretically displace the entire universe.

And in the other half the ‘you’ who left the present, would leave a vacuum of ‘you’ for the entire present to future universe. ‘You’ would have to POP out of the present universe, and cease to exist, in order to exist in the past in your present form.

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And if you could bend time and exist in the past, as a double of yourself, how could you possible interact with the past universe? How could you touch it? As mentioned before, in order to travel to the past, in your present form, and not as a reversal of your present state (in a second time stream in other words) you would have to have time bent personally for you, if that was the case, you’d be moving in the opposite direction in time as the rest of the universe. Etc. etc.

You get the point. Real going backwards in time, is time reversal, and beyond your birth you’d be an unintelligent mass of scattered atoms. And any point where you were alive, you wouldn’t even be aware you were going backwards in time. Freaky, but I think, possible.

We could in fact be timeless right now, and only experiencing time because of the brain, who knows, I don’t.

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We can't travel back in time because traveling back in time implies literally >traveling< to place XYZ. XYZ doesn't physically exist anywhere.

You're a retard.

I'm sorry but you've added nothing to this discussion.

sounds interesting

But he's correct, and you're shitting directly into our brains.

You seem to think you're the first person to think about these things, OP.

Time travel into the past would require harnessing wormholes, which we don't know much about. And if that were possible, there are paradoxes involved (see:grandfather paradox).

Also, if it were possible, then we probably would have been living amongst time travellers throughout history,

just remember you will have to fight for your ideas, just like the guy with the multi-universe theories