I've gone through a phase with just about every genre there is, no matter how alternative or obscure, and I have come to the conclusion that classical (and baroque) music is the only music that is comparable to the literary experience.
It's ironic, as often there are no words, but it feels like the ideas being expressed by the music are just as vivid as lyrics, if not more. Well-made classical music pleases your brain with its timing and harmony, regardless of whether you want to like it or not. This is much like the effect of well-formed writing, when it flows with a pleasing and excites the brain with visceral vocabulary.
The 'storm' movement from Vivaldi's Summer (the second of the four seasons after winter) recreates the feeling of a storm so vividly that you can feel it with all five senses. The movement even raises your adrenaline like a real storm does. It feels exciting and slightly terrifying at the same time, like a real storm does.
I would say that (good) classical music actually goes beyond the reach of literature in terms of the vividness and complexity of emotions it can illicit in an audience.
This is coming from someone who has always considered music pleb shit compared to lit, by the way.
I do like old classics, and i listen to them often. however lately i've found artists that have just as nice a sound to them as some other Victorian era music.
Listen a bit to it OP and maybe you'd like it, and look up more of the artists if you like it
Praise your good taste, fampai! Sharing with you this piece, lets rejoice in our superior art choices which make us better than the other pesants (for today at least :D :D) youtube.com/watch?v=YHicGx0iI0Q B A R O QUE O P
Adam Howard
Op if you're on a Baroque kick then up your game with some John Bull or a more modern take by John Holloway -- Pavans and Fantasies and Basically Bull are pretty good releases...
Check out A.C.R.O.NYM Oddities and Trifles for some really good Baroque...
Non lo so...these days I'm more interested in recent work by Ades, Adams (Absolute Jest is great), Johnston, and Rautavaara's work (RIP) are great...good things happening in classical these days if you search it out.
ACRONYM playing Valentini Sonata a 5 in Gm ...fucking incredible. Listen to how he created an echo effect with the violins starting at :43... voglio andare al venezia adesso grazie... youtu.be/iNAdOrp7XZ4
Anthony Smith
sorry but it sounds like anime music
Isaac Thomas
I know that the romantic era is seen as the least artistic in this thread, even though it's not explicitly said, but there is nothing in the world more satisfying than reading russian literature while listening to russian classical music
>I would say that (good) classical music actually goes beyond the reach of literature in terms of the vividness and complexity of emotions it can illicit in an audience.
>classical (and baroque) I like metal (and death metal).
Austin Foster
>listens to the Four Memes, Rondo alla Meme and some other Memezart and now he's going to explain all of that shit to us, the relationship between music and writing and how classical music causes emotions
Your enthusiasm is nice, but it's obvious that you are new to classical, and you should take this to /mu/. The dead /classical/ threads could use some more activity.
>I would say that (good) classical music actually goes beyond the reach of literature in terms of the vividness and complexity of emotions it can illicit in an audience.
lol. what. yes, and sometimes pulp-novels impact and nicki minaj impact an audience greatly
>the three pieces I posted must be the only three pieces I know
Already I can tell you're retarded
There is nothing wrong with liking pieces that are well known. They are well known for a reason.
Classical is a genre where some composers are literally objectively better than others. Why would anyone feel any shame in liking some of the objectively best work there is?
I know you probably feel like you 'fit in' with Veeky Forums with posts like that, but I think anyone would agree that the worst part about Veeky Forums is the amount of posters who post for the sole purpose of sounding superior. At least bring something else to the table while you're at it, if you're going to be a faggot.
Adam Morales
Has any user here listened to the Dear Hunter? A 5 Act conceptual Album set in the years sorrounding the First World War. The way the artists tell stories through the music is incredible
Landon James
thanks. listening through these while editing
Gabriel Collins
Bach's Art of Fugue is the peak of music.
Josiah Nguyen
This! Being new to classical music is no shame, but it's reasonable to doubt OPs ability to judge music compared to literature as a whole, when he just posted the /mu/ starter kit as his favourites. (Kudos for great taste though, that's always something... At least he isn't posting the film music always appearing on those classical music hit collections.)
Oh, and by the way, can anybody explain to me the adoration of relatively early classical music(Baroque and Classical) compared to Romantic music that is almost always going on in classicalthreads on Veeky Forums? (This thread is probably a poor example of that though.)
Caleb Bennett
Well, as I said here You started out acting like you can judge music as a whole, while proving in no way any broad/deep knowledge of classical music. You were asking to have your dick measured m8.
>contemporary German music, which is romanticism through and through and most un-Greek of all possible art forms—moreover, a first-rate poison for the nerves, doubly dangerous among a people who love drink and who honor lack of clarity as a virtue, for it has the double quality of a narcotic that both intoxicates and spreads a fog >what would a music have to be like that would no longer be of romantic origin, like German music—but Dionysian? Did jazz and rock answer his question, /mu/?
Cameron Diaz
Did you really mean Dionysian and not Apollonian there?
Lincoln Lopez
Yes.
Camden Thomas
Makes sense...
Aaron Turner
I just chose pieces that I thought would help my point.
The four seasons is notorious for its word painting. I honestly cant think of any piece that creates such vivd imagery. Like I said, its famous for a reason.
As for Mozart, I find that his music has so much character. Every piece has such a strong emotive centre, which is what I wanted to compare to writing. I feel like mozarts work SAYS something, more so than any other composer. And, in what I correctly guessed was a controversial opinion, I believe that Mozart's music says more than any actual writing can.
If it feels like I'm sucking Mozart's dick then that's fine. He is my favourite composer. If this rustles you because he is a household name then that's cool.
Tell me this though. When you listen to a mozart piece, like the two I included in the OP, do you not feel as though you are listening to something approaching genuine inspiration? His music feels otherworldly. While other artists might sound inspired, Mozart's pieces sound like the very songs of the muses themselves. In less faggy terms, his music sounds perfect; not a note out of place. It could not be improved on.
Also for the record, I have formal music training. I learned classical guitar and general music theory all the way through grade 8. I have composed my own stuff too. I know that I come across as a pleb, but honestly its just because I have a tendency to admire the grates, and I dont feel any shame in doing so. I can't stress enough, they are great for a reason.
I agree, the greats are great for a reason in classical music. Very much so when it comes to composers, and less so when it comes to pieces. And Mozarts music really convinces you that he was a natural, not just because of the high quality. :) I'm still convinced that there are vast amounts of lesser known pieces that says just as much when listened to, but do not appear on my grandmas Collection CDs. And that you really haven't listened to enough of that music to say the things you did in the OP. Then again who has? I think I'd just expect a guy with authority on the subject to have heard the two first pieces in the OP too many times to really be enthusiastic about them. Maybe I'm just projecting my own experiences here. Anyway, as I said, those are all good pieces, and it's nice to see genuine enthusiasm on this subject. I'm a shitty, but pro musician myself, and lots of my colleagues really aren't people who would listen to classical if they weren't forced to play violin as kids, and a sad amount of them think Mozart is boring. You sound pretty cool, but knocking music as a whole is something I've just never understood.
Austin Johnson
Don't know if this has been posted anywhere, but it is GOAT Mozart that is slightly less well known.
>This is much like the effect of well-formed writin
formalist pleb
Anthony Moore
Thanks, will listen when there aren't people sleeping in the room next to me.
Colton Edwards
>I think I'd just expect a guy with authority on the subject to have heard the two first pieces in the OP too many times to really be enthusiastic about them
I took a long time away from listening to anything classical, so I'm kind of rediscovering it. I guess I was always told I should enjoy it, so I never really figured out on my own why its so good, if you catch my drift.
Lucas James
I know what you mean. I liked the classical music I was exposed to when I was a kid, but it was only later, in my teens I really started to have a genuine interest/fascination with the great composers. Many of my colleagues seem like they don't have that interest, and they enjoy the music, but... Ah, it's hard to explain... There are lots of reasons to do it, and it's fine, and one can be a great musician and all that crap, but it just weirds me out when a person playing symphonic music professionally listens to shit music when at home. I love it when people are actively starting to appreciate and explore classical music. And to try and not sound like an old idiot I won't say that too few people has an interest in it, just that there are lots of people you would expect to have an interest in it, that apparently do not. (There... I just said the same thing ten times...)
>Oh, and by the way, can anybody explain to me the adoration of relatively early classical music(Baroque and Classical) compared to Romantic music
Classical and Baroque music are awesome, millions of great words about them (I love romantic too), so I can only guess that it has to do with, potentially the formers being more ideal to read and write too, and potentially also fits their formalistic style, and general patrician vibes.
Jacob Peterson
It truly is awesome. And those explanations might be fulfilling to an extent, it's just I've also seen the same tendency on /mu/. It wouldn't be far fetched to believe that those vibes are what really makes them a favourite on /mu/ and Veeky Forums, where everything is about being better than eachother.
Robert Ross
I like it all, but can understand why people can prefer to spend their time listening to baroque and classical (lots of baroque and classical music, lots of good and great, lots of styles and types of arrangements and historical instruments, lots of moods and vibes, lots of good background, decorations etc)
