How old were you Veeky Forums when you realized diversity was about regressing genetically?

>Someone told me "diversity is good" without telling me why and I didn't want to bother thinking of the answer on my own because thinking is hard
What's it like being a blue pilled sheep? Believing anything someone tells you that sounds contrarian and dismissing everything mainstream.

>"overspecialize and you breed weakness"
My favorite quote from GITS. When the major is explaining why she wanted a weak, non-cyberized, family first, average IQ, average joe person on her team of high tech cyborg swat/hackers she says that line. Basically she's pointing out that we're all fallible. Everyone is capable of making mistakes. If we were ALL the same, then when one person made a mistake, we'd all made the same identical mistake. While you may think a simple small mistake isn't consequential, a large mistake made by 100% of the population is an extinction level event. Just look at the modern day banana (which is about to go extinct) and it's preprocessor the Gros Michel banana. (which doesn't exist anymore) This problem isn't limited to DNA diversity. It extends to cultural diversity as well.

Genetic diversity is having mixed genes.

Political diversity is having people of different races/sexualities/gender in every place. In every company, in every institution, in every club, in every club, etc.

Diversity is not about grabbing white people and jamming our cum inside of them so that they come with beautiful multi racial babies. Diversity is about putting more black people in the same spaces that white people tend to occupy.

not even in this but your anime quotation and banana analogy is laughable. cultural diversity is a social phenomena and has no real connection to genetic diversity beyond the realm of conveniently constructed metaphors

Biodiversity is good, user. Ethnic diversity is a globalist conspiracy.

Wow nice science and math related thread! totally not political at all!!!

It's about genetics

I've studied enough ecologogical evolution to know that isn't true at all. Not that Eco-evo is required, anyone proficient in even high school biology would be able to tell that what you just is completely retarded.

Isolated populations are how you regress genetically.

It's about you being retarded

driven by political cause*

>If we were ALL the same, then when one person made a mistake, we'd all made the same identical mistake.

Genetic diversity actually creates a more primitive, uniform species. Far more likely to evince similar behaviors as has been shown in experiments with chimpanzees.

Many such cases

*Homogenous populations with high connectance are how you "regress genetically"
Fixed that for me.
And all this is completly ignoring adaptive capacity, which opie obviously knows nothing about.

SAGE IS AN OPTION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO REPLY TO A THREAD WITHOUT BUMPING IT.
A REPLY LIKE "UR RETARDED", for example. You can also hide and report posts.

>Isolated populations are how you regress genetically.

Wrong, they evolve away from the main strata.

See

Veeky Forums tards trying to shut thread down.

Can't deal with the dissonance.

I'm educated in an actual science, not being a complete faggot, so I'm here to tell you to fuck off to

where the cucks roam free

>who is dunning-Kruger for 10

You're still not getting it.

Homogeneity is more common AMONGST the more genetically diverse.

Libtard from Philosophy Forums for 20

Cultural and genetic diversity are the same thing only so far as they're about diversity. The same pitfalls that are present in lack of genetic diversity are also present in lack of cultural diversity.

For example, what would happen in a culture when 100% of the population believed the exact same thing, even if it were wrong or incorrect. They didn't need to share all their thoughts, just 1 thought that everyone believed to be true. Now imagine that society, with incorrect belief, made it so anyone who had a different thought, or tried to correct the wrong thought everyone had, were punished or killed. This is exactly what happened during the dark ages.

op gives evidence of statement
>dunning kruger

>This is exactly what happened during the dark ages.

This is what happens now when you bring this subject up.

what you have written here is so thin and unsubstantiated and hypothetical it would not even be accepted by the most political of researchers.
>This is exactly what happened during the dark ages.
Your graph is completely arbitrary bullshit too. Nothing was invented or advanced in that period, thats what your telling me? because thats what the graph implies. Even better, somehow all advancements after antiquity were just forgotten, as if as soon as rome "fell" which was not a discrete event, everyone became retarded.

what units is the y axis in?

The day Veeky Forums was BTFO

>Genetic diversity is having mixed genes.
>Political diversity is having people of different races

How do you get mixed race people?

>This is what happens now when you bring this subject up.
Almost, but not quite

Sharing ideas, is like sharing DNA. When 2 life forms breed they share DNA and create a new life form. When people share ideas they create new ideas. In a way, sharing ideas, is like sex.
Do you enjoy being mind fucked user-kun?

>implying the far left is open to new opinions

Lmao, you dont even know about genetic drift
Lmao, you didn't even think about selection
Lmao homogeneity is the opposite of diversity by definition.
You're thinking of high connectance, which leads to a diverse gene pool, but without compartmentalized populations that gene pool will regress to homogeneity. The same goes for populations that are over-compartmentalized.
Where you not paying attention when I told you I study ecological evolution? Lmao engineer thinks he knows something.
Kill yourself retard.

>Lmao homogeneity is the opposite of diversity by definition.

We're talking about genetic diversity libtard, which as demonstrated in the studies is found to a greater degree in more homogenous populations. Genetic drift and selection decrease genetic diversity and create heterogeneity.

Evolution 101 you fucking pleb.

>libtard
Hold up let me screen cap this so I can but it in my 10 gorrillion terabyte folder labeled, "evidence retards are retarded"
>Genetic drift and selection decrease genetic diversity and create heterogeneity.
Lmao that's called divergence, and that's when a comparmentalized population splits off into multiple populations because of homegeny within and low connectance between compartments. Literally arguing against yourself
>evolution 101
Would send you back to 5th grade biology for retards where you belong.

If you want an example of what we are talking about
>in the studies
Take a look at cheetah populations

Just though of a good flame I thought I would share
>evolution 101
Would send you to evolutionary-devolpmentaly-disabled biology where you belong.

Unfortunately this past year has made everyone polarized and extremely hostile towards each other. Sharing ideas and creation of new and novel ideas will be at an all time low so long as everyone hates each other.

Historically, extreme polarization precipitates the fall of a civilization. We could be witnessing the fall of western society if they can't find some way to work together and start sharing ideas again.

>Lmao that's called divergence

Exactly, you got there in the end.

>Someone told me

This really sums up the mentality of Veeky Forums when it comes to these topics, they're not at all comfortable with it. Go back to your bunsen burners and calculators.

>regress genetically.

Didn't even understand what was being discussed.

>>Someone told me
inane reply to first 3 words of a post, ignore the rest

Sounds fun, can I try?
>This really sums
not an argument. Don't talk to me ever again.

>didn't read the thread

What an imbecilic image. By the same token, I could point to the fact that prairie chickens have incredibly low genetic diversity, and then equate Whites or jews with chickens because they have lower genetic diversity than Blacks. I mean, I don't even disagree that there are differences between the intelligence of certain populations but the image still looks retarded to any geneticist worth his or her salt.

then you have isolated populations with homogenous gene pools, lowered adaptive capacity, and in this case increased competion for resources because they would still occupy the same niche in the same space, but would be reproductively isolated.
U sure are a think one ;)

>a think one
What I meant to say was THICC

Ohh and I forget to even mention is that the populations lose a chunk of genetic diversity upon divergence . Which is like my main point in explaining to you how retarded you are.

We've known about humanity's lack of genetic diversity for a long time.

That's why we have Toba catastrophe theory.

>Ohh and I forget to even mention is that the populations lose a chunk of genetic diversity upon divergence.

Wow, look at this fucking retard. He's spent the whole thread arguing against himself. Now he clearly admits that what it says in the OP's image is true.

>Too bad you posted this in a board that is 5 IQ points too smart to fall for this bullshit

Ha ha ha! Duning Kruger is alive and well on this shit for brains board.

>I could point to the fact that prairie chickens have incredibly low genetic diversity, and then equate Whites or jews with chickens because they have lower genetic diversity than Blacks.

Surely the question is whether prairie chickens today have a lower genetic diversity than their forbears? I mean you do understand it is that which is being referenced in the OP's image?

D..D..Dunning Kruger anyone?

Explain how inter-ethnic parentage degrades the genes of someone?

>Surely the question is whether prairie chickens today have a lower genetic diversity than their forbears? I mean you do understand it is that which is being referenced in the OP's image?

>D..D..Dunning Kruger anyone?
I'm a student at a top ten Genetics Ph.D program, so no, I don't think the Dunning Kruger effect applies here. Still, you'll have to expand on what you're trying to say here, since I don't entirely catch your drift.

>everyone must be copy paste mold equal
>diversity is our strength

>breed with niggers
>pick up nigger genes and consequent physical and psychological traits.

Veeky Forums asks: Explain how inter-ethnic parentage degrades the genes of someone?

>since I don't entirely catch your drift.

If the OP had said this would it be clearer?

>How old were you Veeky Forums when you realized diversity was about evolutionary regression?

Yes, it's pretty clear now that he doesn't know what the help he's talking about, since "evolutionary regression" isn't a thing, and if it were a thing it certainly wouldn't be a simple function of genetic diversity. The reason Africa is more genetically diverse is that it's the source population. When a migration happens from a source, the new population is always less diverse than the source. It has nothing to do with quality of genes, it's just a consequence of simple statistics.

> When a migration happens from a source, the new population is always less diverse than the source. It has nothing to do with quality of genes, it's just a consequence of simple statistics.

You mean it's not evolution?

>I'm a student at a top ten Genetics Ph.D program,

kek

It's evolution. Any sort of genetic change at a population is evolution, whether it's a result of chance or natural selection or mutation. The point I'm trying to make, which is pretty simple, is that genetic diversity per se is not intrinsically linked to whether the evolution is 'positive' or 'degradation' (which is subjective but I assume you are talking about decreasing intelligence.) A population could become more diverse and more intelligent, (say, if a new gene that enhances neurons enters the population) and it could become less diverse and less intelligent (say, if a bottleneck event kills all the smart people.) That's all I'm saying. Do you understand?

Stay jealous, brainlet.

>A population could become more diverse and more intelligent, (say, if a new gene that enhances neurons enters the population) and it could become less diverse and less intelligent (say, if a bottleneck event kills all the smart people.)

You're shitposting because you refuse to accept what nature has wrought over the past millions of years, ie, genetic diversity is inversely related to intelligence in hominid populations. Primitive gene structures from all levels of the phenotype had to be eliminated so that evolution could go forward. That is why we have a clear link today between primeval physical traits and behaviors found in sub-Saharan black populations and low intelligence.

The examples you give are pure fantasy on your part.

>Stay jealous, brainlet.

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I'm guessing you haven't taken population genetics. If you had you'd understand that there's nothing controversial or shitposty about what I wrote. You're clearly blinded by ideology. I don't refuse to acknowledge that certain populations are less intelligent, but you're drawing a specious connection between diversity and low intelligence.

it's not so much that diversity is good in and of itself.

it's that a homogeneous society is not the wonderful panacea you /pol/tards imagine.

throw in the fact that the methods we currently have to combat diversity: mass deportation, mass murder, segregation (which in practice becomes stratification), eugenics, etc. are all either unethical or unrealistic, and it becomes an easy decision. we don't need to oppose it.

Why do you think diversity is good?
I mean, this is Veeky Forums not leftypol, maybe have at least something to back up your statement.

1, fuck you for making me read ops image

2, this entrire thread has been discussed at the population level and that's meta populations.

3 ops image directly contradicts what he says, Africans are diverse and have high genetic variation

4 ops image is racialist retardation, however made it clearly doesn't get the dynamics at play

5 its supremacist undertones imply teleological forces driving evolution, which is completely retarded

>Wow, look at this fucking retard. He's spent the whole thread arguing against himself. Now he clearly admits that what it says in the OP's image is true.
You idiot, the "embrace diversity" isn't divergence it's convergence, I.e. Gaining a chunk of genetic diversity. Not to mention behavioral diversity which is even more imporant than genetic diversity.

>dunning kruger anyone
You brainlets make me sick

>its supremacist undertones imply teleological forces driving evolution

No teleology dumbass, just intelligence dominating all other traits.

>Gaining a chunk of genetic diversity.

Regression on an evolutionary scale.

Dunning Kruger confirmed!

Your attitude towards diversity is a perfect reflection of the zeitgeist that has been in place since the end of the second world war. Go back a bit further and Veeky Forums tards would be horrified at the idea of whites interbreeding with blacks because of the undesirable genetic consequences.

What is the extent of your formal training in genetics?

>What is the extent of your formal training in genetics?

I'm a student at a top ten Genetics Ph.D program.

So, I'll take that to mean that you have no formal training in genetics whatsoever.

Are you even employed?

Stay jealous, brainlet.

Haha.
But seriously, what is your real job? Why are you suddenly evasive? You're not a loser in real life, are you?

>demands formal education records
>on Veeky Forums

>Africans are diverse and have high genetic variation
So are chimps.

Naive genetic diversity metrics don't correlate to meaningful diversity of traits, nor to potential for occurance of desirable traits.

Chimps are "more diverse" than humans, but there is not a single chimp composer or scientist. If you judge them as if they were human, they are basically all the same: horribly stupid, uneducable, ugly, unpredictably violent. If our laws set chimps free in our society as if they were human and forbade discrimination against them (i.e. calling animal control whenever one shows up in a city), every sensible person would do what they could to avoid being in the same places as them, and they'd constantly be getting arrested (or shot resisting arrest) for acting without regard to the law.

This is the point of the image. Pointing out that sub-Saharan Africans are "diverse" or "genetically varied" is not a valid argument that undesirable traits are not common or any particular desirable ones should occur at all. Nor does it make a case that race-mixing won't produce results strongly biased toward a particular set of traits less desirable than those of a currently-existing racial category.

>Chimps are "more diverse" than humans, but there is not a single chimp composer or scientist.
But there are Black composers and scientists. Therefore it is possible to genetically rehabilitate Blacks through selective breeding or other eugenics. No need to throw the good out with the bad.

>Therefore it is possible to genetically rehabilitate Blacks through selective breeding or other eugenics.

What would be the point? The work of black scientists and composers is inferior to that of other races. In many cases they have only been entertained in the first precisely because they are black, ie, the need to spread 'diversity'.

>What would be the point?
What was the point of breeding the chihuahua or the pug?

>The work of black scientists and composers is inferior to that of other races.

Sure, but theoretically it could be improved through breeding.

>In many cases they have only been entertained in the first precisely because they are black, ie, the need to spread 'diversity'.
So, if we actually breed Blacks to be intellectually equal to us, then we won't need affirmative action, they'll actually be equal.

Selective breeding is going on now. Poor whites are being bred with blacks, they are being sold the idea by people like Veeky Forums that diversity is good through the media. What they are getting is less intelligent, less aware offspring, whilst the capitalists benefit from this as a source of compliant , low paid labor that will consume the crappy products they produce.

There's something about this question that falsely concludes something.

Something about reading the word "diversity" and getting triggered, to the point where reading "chimps show much greater diversity" enabled the conclusions "all humans should be all kinds of diverse" and "diversity is the result of being a chimp" and "chimps are ancestors/primitive humans" and thus "diversity is being your ancestors, but chimps are not humans, and chimps are bad because".

I read this reply enough times, but for some reason it just reads like "we don't need black people", or "I don't want black people".

>sold the idea by people like Veeky Forums
Ha ha ha ha.

Yes, yes. It's a big conspiracy. Capitalism, proles, consumerism, exclusive to mixed heritage masses!

>whilst the capitalists benefit from this as a source of compliant , low paid labor that will consume the crappy products they produce.

Well, someone has to do the crappy jobs. Otherwise people like you wouldn't have nice cushy jobs doing...
What is it you do for a living?

>they are being sold the idea by people like Veeky Forums that diversity is good through the media.

Look how triggered the Veeky Forumstards are.

You'd better remember to tow the liberal line if you want dem jobs and money for dem programs.

>What is it you do for a living?

Tell us what you do, I'm sure it's relevant.

So what is your job? You still haven't given me a real answer.

Ladies first

I'm not the one talking about 'dem jobs and money' or talking about how blacks are fodder for unskilled work. Put up or shut up.

I told you. I'm a student researcher in an elite genetics program.

>I read this reply enough times, but for some reason it just reads like "we don't need black people", or "I don't want black people".

Not that guy, but we really don't.

If every black person in America suddenly died of sickle cell, people would get by just fine. The prisons would be half empty, the streets would be twice as safe, the welfare state would be far less burdened, far fewer people would be spreading STDs like AIDS, schools would have money for real education instead of writing books in the humanities department about nonexistent "oppression" and "privilege," hospitals would have far fewer patients for drug abuse, and society would move on.

Why you so triggered by this thread?

Because you clearly don't even have an undergraduate understanding of genetics and yet you keep acting like you know what you're talking about. It's infuriating. I don't even deny that there are differences in racial IQ due to genetics. That's not what '''triggers'''' me. It's the fact that you completely fail to grasp even the most elementary concepts, even when people spell them out to you. You're a fucking imbecile, and you'd be a fucking imbecile if you were pro-White or pro-Black.

You've never set foot in a population genetics class in your life. Am I wrong? What is your actual field? Because it sure as shit isn't genetics.

Question.

In America, how much of the population do "black people" make up? Where does this demographic live, what is the displacement of "black people" like in America?

If you cut out a random chunk of the American population, the welfare state would be far less burdened by the by, and schools would still provide shit education. Hospitals would still be as they are, specifically because drug abuse isn't unique to "black people"- it would probably still affect a lot of people who are now forced to do jobs they don't want to, because a disproportionate amount of the low-tier workforce has suddenly vanished.

A lot of what you've suggested, it's like attacking the symptoms, than the cause.

They are 12% of the population. They are more likely to be on welfare, unemployed, obese (unhealthy), a criminal, dropout, basically any negative metric you can think of. They don't typically occupy critical roles.

If they all disappeared there would be an adjustment but the net result would be positive for the country. To top it off we wouldn't have all of the racial politics madness distracting us from real problems.

>What is your actual field?

My fields range from electrical engineering to horticulture. This meme is to get people thinking about the word 'diversity' and how it intersects with politics and biology. I would say it's been a great success so far.

You're triggered because like most sperglords that work in labs there's a bigger picture that you cannot grasp. This thread has annoyingly reminded you of that itch you cannot scratch.

I bet you voted Hilary.

12%, huh. Basically any negative metric I can think of? Ah, yes, yes. Can't imagine why they'd be unemployed. Can't imagine why they'd be on welfare. Can't imagine why they'd be a criminal, why they'd be a dropout. Gosh, I don't know.

>we wouldn't have all of the racial politics madness distracting us
Sure we wouldn't. As opposed to solving the
>racial politics madness
by dealing with the concept of race directly, as well as the paradox of tolerance that gives rise to it all.
>the folk concept of race does not exist
>the folk concept of race is what people spend their time obsessing over

But, you would rather just be a barbarian with a cudgel.