RIP Fantasy and Science Fiction

RIP Fantasy and Science Fiction.

Will there be an ablution?

I think it's extremely insulting and jewish to release these special collections when the series isn't even completed

It will never be completed so why wait?

>jewish

This is a racist-free board, friend.

This is a puss-free image board

>want to write science fiction and fantasy
>don't want to spend the rest of my life on a single series

Actually getting published is a long ways away regardless, but this sort of thing makes me want to write thrillers and become the liberal Brad Thor.

Why are sci-fi / fantasy authors so prone to writing series anyway?

>don't want to spend the rest of my life on a single series
But user, you don't have to. I'm writing a Sci-fi novel, which I have not intention of turning into a series. Next I'm doing a historical military adventure.

Write what you want.

Assignments are for journalists.

I've heard that this is how publishers want it. Even if the author doesn't want to write a series, the publisher knows how many people will buy Part 2, and they can't give up that risk-free audience.

Also, there is a lot of world-building involved in both genres. A writer could think of it as a waste to do all that work and end up with a single novel.

Best of luck to you. About military sci-fi, do you have to have a military background to write well in that subgenre? It seems like I can't find any authors who were just some regular guy. It's all military dudes writing this stuff.

way more money involved in series, genre fiction is a lot more profit oriented than literary fiction (partly why the quality is shit)

> do you have to have a military background to write well in that subgenre?

I don't know that you have to, but it helps. I did four years a paratrooper, which is only somewhat tangentially similar to writing about serving as a Fusilier under Louis XV. I mean, I can write with conviction about the merits of a clever dick joke amidst otherwise miserable conditions, or the inherent homo-eroticism of the military itself, but I've had to research flintlock rifles and all the specific conflicts myself, which anyone could do.

This, sadly. Imagine if 1984 was written as a series?

Imagine if Forever War had multiple awful sequels.

Currently writing a fantasy series. I think there's some room for imagination, but I agree it's getting claustrophobic.

Do you guys have any fresh tips and such that wouldn't make every fantasy and sci fi novel cookie cut outs?

I want to see more fantasy in other time periods. Bronze age, neolithic, early modern, etc. Why can't anybody invent the gun in any of these fantasy worlds?

Not exactly read super deep into either genre but it seems to me like fantasy is 10x more restrictive than sci-fi. I've only read classic sci-fi though, nothing that comes out these days.

Care to share anything about your series? I'm curious what you have to say with fantasy.

Does anyone actually read new sci-fi? I liked Star Carrier, but it's not like it's popular. Nowadays it seems like 'sci-fi' just means Warhammer and Star Wars.

I think the line between sci-fi and reality has become really blurry in this day and age. Sci has become movies like The Martian, where it is a semi-plausable scenario based on existing technology taken to the extreme.

There is still plenty of room for science fiction, but I agree that space opera will probably sell more copies.

The only new thing I've read is a book called 'Blindsight' by Peter Watts. I thought it was pretty great but I don't know if it got any popularity.

It's very popular with a certain segment of the population, but it's 10 years old.

So it is. I thought it was more recent than that.

Sure.

I think the fantasy setting has really been so watered down at this point that most people just think of the typical knight and dragon fight in the gothic castle.
I have guns in my settings, and some other familiar technology that is known. I think that most authors of the genre are too afraid to take this step out of the norm and aren't adding such changes. If more people would just try and step out there a bit, I think we'd see more changes, but the readers are less inclined to be interested if it's not done correctly.

Rest is obvious, authors are seeing ASoIaF and thinking that's what a perfect setting/character/plot is and are trying to mimic that. It's like this every year.

Then again I'm getting old so maybe I'm just ranting

So it's fantasy with some technology? Like He-man?

Just some technology. We're not talking computers here, but more so late 16th century kinds of technology give or take. I think the setting would come off too queer with dragons and computers.

What themes are in this series?

Sounds interesting. Any passages?

>dragons and computers
Shadowrun was always a fun setting, but I can't say it's really spawned any great genre fiction.

Greed, politics, masculinity, and substance abuse

If my retarded self can learn how to set up google docs correctly so that one can view without adding a penis to my novel, I'll link it.

Also, play D&D but never Shadowrun. Kind of sad, I wish I had a group to try it out with. I know this is more Veeky Forums related, but on the note, know of any online sites to play around with settings?

>play around with settings?
How do you mean? Like world building sites?

Yes, or sites that would allow online sessions

ASoIaF is War of the Roses, which started in 1455. Europeans had primitive guns by 1400. Guns in fantasy is not schizo-tech.

>schizo-tech.
I would like to read more in this genre, pls

So do I, but it seems that the only people who write it are weirdbeards who are more interested in exploring their sexuality than competent novelists.

>exploring their sexuality
>competent novelists
If only someone could do both well...

I'm doing my own debut fantasy novel. Does it *have* to be a War of the Roses ripoff for a reputable publisher to accept it? Because if it does, it's too late for me to change everything just to make it mirror 15th century England, and don't have the motivation to write such an obvious rehash.

Judaism is a racist religion, not a race.
"Chosen people"? More like "most pathetic excuse for a land grab ever."

>Does it *have* to be a War of the Roses ripoff for a reputable publisher to accept it?
Of course not. I doesn't even have to be good, necessarily. Marketable, sure, but not not always good.

Care to share any premise or passages?

I'm still working on the chapter outline, so no passages, unfortunately.

It's set in a time where the big empire that used to rule half the world imploded in a civil war that got started when one of the more powerful archdukes refused to bow to the empress regent, who was born from this archduke's rival house. The archduke had assembled enough allies to wage a solid defensive war. He and those who sided with him styled themselves as kings to assert their independence from the emperor.

After a long and protracted war, the ruling imperial dynasty got wiped out by the child-emperor's own bodyguards along with the empress regent.

Since there's no legitimate heir to the Imperial throne, and the emperor's power had been decaying for quite a while anyway, the whole thing broke up into seven independent kingdoms, which were formerly archduchies within the empire.

That's an incredibly oversimplified version of this setting's backstory, but as you can see, it's not a War of the Roses sort of deal.

that seems interesting do you know the title yet?

I don't.

Speaking of 1984, am I the only one who thought that the end dragged on and stopped making sense and went from a scenario that could happen to weird torture porn?

Please delete your comment.

>weird torture porn?
The whole thing had an undertone of torture to it. That is fascism's true nature, which was his point.

THe end was a little slow, to give a false sense of security, and then BLAM.