We often talk about how dumb the brainlets are because it makes us feel better, but how about we talk about common misconceptions that even highly-educated researchers often hold? Here's a Nature news article examining five science myths that refuse to die: nature.com/news/the-science-myths-that-will-not-die-1.19022
TLDR: Myth: Screening for cancer saves lives, and we need to push for more screening Reality: For the vast majority of screening programs, there was no decrease in mortality provided by screening. The decrease in mortality seems limited to fairly small at-risk groups.
Myth: Antioxidants Good; Free Radicals Bad Mice genetically engineered to over-produce free radicals lived just as long as normal mice. A study in humans showed that anti-oxidant supplements actually DECREASE the positive benefits of exercise. Regardless of the documented effects of free radicals at a cellular and molecular level, at a dietary level, antioxidants appear mostly useless.
Myth: The human brain is large in proportion to body size Fact: The human brain/body ratio is in line with what you would expect looking at other mammals. Textbooks often round the number of neurons to 100 billion, when it's closer to 86 billion.
Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches.
Myth: The human population is growing exponentially, and Earth is overpopulated (or will soon be overpopulated). Reality: The human population is not growing exponentially, and is now growing at just half the rate as it was in 1965. There is also enough food, but it is distributed poorly because surpluses of cereal grains are used for fuel and for feeding livestock. Water is not scarce on a global scale either.
What do you guys think? I admit that the free-radicals one was a bit of a surprise to me, even though I am a cell biologist.
>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches.
Right, teaching blind people with diagrams and deaf people with vocalization is "empirically verified" to be more effective. Lmaoing at your life right now.
Zachary Fisher
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Jace Adams
please leave with your bait
Austin Barnes
Shitty bait. Try harder next time
Carter Parker
>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches.
I want elaboration on this. By "empirically verified", do you mean that, if used in a classroom, one-size-fits-all works betters? Because that's obvious: You're at least somewhat teaching everyone which looks better than only teaching one student but doing a beautiful job at it. Show me an experiment where they use a one-size-fits-all approach to a single student where the results are better than if they used an approach that suits that specific student's needs.
Absolute bullshit, makes me think all the other ones are bullshit too. Let this be a lesson -- saying even one thing that you have no clue about can ruin your entire argument, no matter how good the other facts may be.
Hunter Stewart
you dont think blind people can learn with graphs? thats racist
Matthew Ramirez
>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches.
I think that this was the bait he intended to post while the rest is just noise
Anthony Jones
The main problem with population growth is the strain it puts on public services since they can't keep up with the population doubling every 40 years
Jordan Jackson
>myth: success in STEM is determined by hard work Terry Tao even wrote an article about how math was more about collaboration and hard work than being a genius. Easy for him to say when he's smarter than anyone he will ever meet. It's just better to dismiss your own superior intellect as "hard work": people won't give you shit about being cocky or having a sense of superiority, and it gives brainlets a false sense of hope.
David Bailey
The population is plateauing, though.
Isaac Clark
2nd.
Thomas James
All of those are related to social/biological so-called "sciences", so it's fucking nothing really.
Thomas Johnson
>collaboration and hard work Neither is up your alley, huh? Because it's obviously the patrician's choice to cry about their average IQ instead of accomplishing anything.
Owen Wright
I've found that education studies are pretty much all bullshit made up to push something and be able to say it's "empirically verified".
Grayson Gray
>Water is not scarce on a global scale either Potable water is. Water desalination and purification is expensive both in terms of energy consumption and cost. We should make every effort to preserve the sources of freshwater available to us, we're polluting far too many sources and making them undrinkable.
Jayden Perez
>Myth: Screening for cancer saves lives, and we need to push for more screening As far as I know, this is indeed mostly false. The reason being that you find so many false alarms when screening that the side effects of treating false alarms outdo the benefits in actual treatable cancers found.
>Myth: Antioxidants Good; Free Radicals Bad I don't know much about this. I believe consensus is that the depiction above is way oversimplified, but still points in the right direction.
>Myth: The human brain is large in proportion to body size The human brain IS large in proportion to body size, among mammals, among monkeys, among great apes, pretty much however you mention it. Hell, it is so large that human births are very risky because the heads are as large as they can be within the limitations caused by the size of the birth canal.
>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches. Individuals DO learn better when taught in their preferred learning style. One-size-fits-all TEACHING style is more effective because the amount of resources such as teacher time you want to spend on education is limited, and within that limit one-size-fits-all that can address a group is more effective than individual-style where the amount of time per student is vastly smaller as a consequence. When you can afford one-on-one tutors, the preferred learning style thing is indeed better.
>Myth: The human population is growing exponentially, and Earth is overpopulated (or will soon be overpopulated). As you say. Very few processes are truly exponential indefinitely. Human population is a resource-bounded exponential, not a true exponential, i.e. it slows down as the population nears the resource limit (not the limit of what's available in theory, but the limit of what you can use in practice, distribution complications included).
Liam Anderson
I think the issue comes from people moving into your area for a variety of reasons.
Ayden Brooks
>bullshit made up to push something ...could it be ... an AGENDA ?!
Isaac Clark
>Myth: The human population is growing exponentially, and Earth is overpopulated (or will soon be overpopulated). >Reality: The human population is not growing exponentially, and is now growing at just half the rate as it was in >1965. There is also enough food, but it is distributed poorly because surpluses of cereal grains are used for fuel >and for feeding livestock. Water is not scarce on a global scale either.
You've only considered input to human existence, i.e. water and food. Output paints a far more dismal picture, and says that we're very overpopulated. There are several garbage continents floating in the Pacific and Indian oceans, due mostly to Asian waste disposal, where most Asian countries, especially China, use the Pacific as their own private land fill. The floating garbage is a small fraction of the garbage they're dumping, including general waste, but also industrial waste chemicals, construction waste, etc. The fish levels Pacific-wide are down to a fraction of a percent of their 1963 levels (the first time fish populations were counted).
Over 90% of air pollution is, nowadays, produced in Asia. Between Pakistan and Japan - Asia - lives around 90% of the world's population and they produce 90% of the air pollution. The Philippines has no garbage collection, so people burn their household waste every day, India not only has a huge public defecation problem, they also discard trash anywhere, factories release their chemical waste anywhere they like, and the air is permanently unbreathable. Even though the US, Europe, Canada etc aren't overpopulated, much of the rest of the world is, especially Asia, with respect to waste.
Oliver Hill
>Even though the US, Europe, Canada etc aren't overpopulated, much of the rest of the world is, >especially Asia, with respect to waste. If anything, the US is overpopulated, because their citizens are individually much less sustainable due to high rates of meat consumption, car ownership, plastic usage, electricity use, and other factors.
David Campbell
>>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >>Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches.
OP didn't summarize the article very well. It's not what he is saying.
Nathaniel Brooks
Option #1 - Teacher explains math to group of 30 students for 1 hour Option #2 - Teacher gives specialized 1-on-1 handholding to each snowflake for 2 minutes.
Logan Green
This is just a mixture of strawman arguments and only looking at the indicators that suit his views. Cancer Screening drastically increases your life expectancy. The cancer might still kill you anyways, but for most People its a big difference if the cancer kills you when you are 55 or 65 or even 75. So screening works, because it raises your life expectancy, simple as that. You can make similar counter arguments to his other points. Its good he wants to break thinking patterns, but that article is stillshit.
Nolan Taylor
Did you read the meta-analysis he cited, though? It found that only 3 out of 7 of the common screening tests surveyed yielded a statistically significant decrease in disease-specific mortality. That's absurd.
>If anything, the US is overpopulated, because their citizens are individually much less >sustainable due to high rates of meat consumption, car ownership, plastic usage, >electricity use, and other factors.
Yes, very true ... in 1973. In 2017, however, Asia, especially India and China are by far the greater problem.
They overpopulated like mad and now have converted to a US-style super consumer culture. China likes to claim their population as just 1.4 billion, but the last actual census was in 1989, and their population pyramid hasn't slowed any since then. Their actual population is around 2.5 to 3.1 billion, depending on how many have "moved" into neighboring countries. Their most recent doubling rate was 22 years (1980s value), giving the 3.5B population number. (Your answer is typical of the liberal religion - solve the problems as they existed in the 1970s). On paper the problem appears to be easing, but only because China, India and most of Asia avoid posting their real numbers with regard to population.
India has also adopted a super consumer culture, sans a sewer system or waste handling, and is beyond the pale with regard to pollution. They surpassed 1 billion around year 2000 and passed 1.3 billion in population in 2011 - they grew by the population of the US in just 11 years, and continue to double at the same rate. Shit, garbage and pollution of all sorts is everywhere in India (see image), and I have heard that you can smell the shit and pollution in an aircraft before even getting to the border.
The US has reduced pollution and consumerism over the last few decades, while Asia, especially China and India, have greatly increased their population, pollution, and consumerism.
Liberals like to point the finger at the US and Caucasians no matter what, and that seems to have driven your opinion more than any of the facts.
Jackson Richardson
I'm only going by per-capita pollution, which you seem to have ignored.
Ayden Phillips
This is all fairly accurate and well referenced. I am however enjoying how many special snowflakes on Veeky Forums are under the impression that they learn vastly differently from everyone else.
The point the article made was that people being taught through different methods were not achieving variant enough results to show a causative link, and I would stand behind that. Sure I have an emotional bias towards a certain method of learning, but I couldn't say for sure that I am better off with that method, because I have never tested it, only assumed it after it happened to work well a few times.
Ryan Taylor
Myth: Nuclear radiation and power exists, therefor so must the bombs we've all seen on video and read about Reality: youtu.be/sULjMjK5lCI
(pic mildly related)
Easton Sanders
shitty bait, you can't fool me... wait
>all stone buildings in the hiroshima 'blast zone' were undamaged
well maybe they were strong enough? that doesn't prove anything
>Myth: Individuals learn better when taught in their preferred learning style >Fact: One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches. False, gifted kids perform better with special education, for example see Reid Barton, Gabriel Carroll and the Polga sisters. They all have in common a certain degree of homeschooling and they are absolute geniuses
Jace Roberts
>Shit, garbage and pollution of all >sorts is everywhere in India (see image That's a misleading image. That image had to do with the tsunami, not open defecation. You on't need to doctor images of India being a shithole. There are plenty of images that are not altered (see my image for open defecation).
Wyatt Moore
>I'm only going by per-capita pollution, which you seem to have ignored.
I only ignore it because it's stupid. It masks pollution under human-pollution: the egregious over population of Asian countries where humans become a form of pollution. Pollution and population need to be normalized, both independently, to land area or arable land, not one to the other. The boundary condition for humans is the land area we have to live on.
Henry Russell
Yeah, that makes sense until you factor in the fact that a large portion of the pollution in China is due to manufacture of goods destined for first-world countries. You can't just say "oh the population in first world countries is much more responsible" because you're ignoring the waste they create by creating a demand for frivolous goods.
Jacob Gutierrez
How do you know they would be any worse off if they were educated the standard way? Maybe you should conduct some kind of test in order to compare the methods fairly while keeping out the effects of other factors. Unfortunately I know of no such method for determining facts via empirical study.
Jacob Wilson
Myth: Veeky Forums is the smartest board on Veeky Forums Fact: /a/ is because they've rejected real women
Gabriel Powell
>Water is not scarce on a global scale either.
Man, all these people living in areas that are going to have extreme water shortages soon are going to be so relieved once you tell them in Norway they have way more water than they need.
Daniel Thompson
>One-size-fits-all approaches to learning have been empirically verified to be more effective than 'learning style' approaches. I'm sure that there are learning approaches that work optimally. But i think what is really meant by the idea of "preferred learning style" is the idea that some people learn better out of books, and some people learn better when a person explains it to them. The approach itself can still be the same, it's just verbal vs non-verbal. For me, you can show me something 50 times and i still can't do it. But i read it once and i'll understand it easily. I guess it has to do with social anxiety.
Kayden Cox
Informative posts on Veeky Forums. Bravo.
Benjamin Russell
>Myth: Screening for cancer saves lives, and we need to push for more screening I read the article because I could not believe that, and turns out that some types of cancer still benefit from screening, like lung cancer, while others don't. Why is that, can someone smart explain? Is it because treating those cancers early doesn't significantly decrease the mortality or what?
That's about the learner types bullshit, like visual learner, etc., and not about people with disabilities or other groups that needs special ways of learning.
Dominic Gutierrez
I'm not OP and I'm too lazy to find a study, but I would imagine they grouped one group of people into smaller subgroups based on their learning style (either based on their self-reported preferred learning style, or by having them fill out a "what is your learning style" test), and compared those against another group that was taught "normally", and found no significant difference.
Cooper Wood
>garbage contintents
What a fucking idiotic term. An imperceptible film of plastic is not a continent you enviro-sperg.
Cameron Butler
>food is distributed poorly So what you're saying is that in some areas they can't produce enough food and drinking water to sustain the local population? Isn't that like the definition of... overpopulation?
Bentley Wright
The question is whether the world as a whole is overpopulated. It's not.
Luis Ross
Race realism >This triggers the redditt outpost known as Veeky Forums
Mason Reyes
I fucking hate the >muh US argument. If the habitable parts of the world were as densely populated as mainland US, there would only be 3 billion people or less right now. People in the US bloody well deserve their fucking living standards, and should not lower them just because some fucktards thousands of miles away can't fucking stop reproducing. t. someone not from the US
Joshua Anderson
Why are you still here then?
Austin Morris
I know, right? Instead of dropping a 16 kiloton nuke, they literally dropped 16 thousand metric tons of TNT on the Japs, the equivalent of dropping 1400 MOABs, or what you could transport in 72 Antonov An-225s, the plane with the largest cargo capacity ever built.
Jack Turner
Why haven't Indians improved their infrastructure yet? Is it because only Romans (and Chinese) and people raped by Romans (and Chinese) know how to make proper sewers?
Landon Johnson
bc i liek scinece.
Benjamin Kelly
I agree, that wackjob is out there suggesting they carpet napalmed it like they did to Tokyo, fucking retards think they could hide a bunch of planes with napalm instead of simply inventing and using the new megabomb we all know for certain exists.
Fucking moron thinks no victims would be able to leak what they saw after US occupied Japan and told us everything we know about the radiation burns and shit, gullible conspiracy buff shit-eaters, I say
Josiah Diaz
"Here's a whole bunch of bullshit with no cited sources" Hey thanks OP, nice scienceing with you.
Benjamin Wilson
Fuck you too, whiny bitch ass.
Dylan Cruz
Fact: Veeky Forums is gradually becoming another /pol/.
Dylan Garcia
>a large portion of the pollution in China is due to manufacture of goods destined for first-world
Idiotic liberal mind-washing at work again. The Chinese have captured US manufacturing only because of unethical business practices such as controlling their currency. The average salary in China is about 10 cents a day, which is quite enough to live on because all prices are equally forcibly depressed, but which leads to first world being unable to compete price wise. They have forced themselves to do that by overpopulating like vermin. If those same items were manufactured in Europe, the US or elsewhere in the first world, there would have been legitimate waste disposal laws, pollution laws, wage controls for labor, etc. none of which exists in China.
The inability of Asians to control their population or even understand that it should be controlled has led to the pollution problem, and to their unethical domination of the manufacturing market. Both are due to Asian overpopulation, again, not one leading to the other.
From a philosophical standpoint, it's astonishing to me how completely liberals are able to shut down their critical thinking. It takes only the tiniest bit of critical thought to overcome so idiotic a premise. It seems impossible to me that so many people would be unable to see though so obvious a misrepresentation. I don't know how or why liberals suppress free thought, but it certainly isn't helping matters.
Samuel Johnson
>What a fucking idiotic term. An imperceptible film of plastic is not a continent
Call it what you like, it's continent sized, and not so imperceptible that ocean vessels aren't forced to divert around them like a land mass or that wildlife aren't choked and starved by the continually decaying debris (perpetually replace by newly discarded garbage). The world needs to stand up to China, India and the rest of Asia and demand that they stop using the Pacific and Indian oceans as land fills.
Connor Rivera
So is every other board
Hunter Myers
Fact: you should go back to instead of whining and shit posting here.