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I love Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy
Is Zelazny worth diving into?
good post
not read it but it looks interesting from the wiki
how about you tell me
Stevian, we have to srop doing these things.
Elaborate? I saw it on the "okay" tier and decided to not read it
Is that the book where the opening line goes "Only one enemy remained, two if you count God." ?
I love the way Hobb's writes and enjoyed the story of Fitz's life. Her take on an assassin is really interesting though I would doubt it's unique. Most of everything, more then most of whatever is in those three books was incredibly well done or thought out/designed.
There were things that I didn't like but I don't want to say anything that could be spoilers. I think his life even continues in another trilogy later on.
Now that I've said how great it is, I don't believe you should read it. Walking into something with such high expectations often ruins it.
WHAT DO YOU SEE ?
...
OUR GUY
Who's Stevian?
Andy Dick's ugly brother
Literally (OUR GUY)
Did we ever answer the age old dark souls question?
Yes
What was it?
Don't worry guys, my anime in prose science fantasy with philosophical themes will put /sffg/ on the map.
Not if mine does first.
>implying I would ever admit a link to /sffg/
I'm not going to break my anonymity in this sacred sanctuary.
I watch anime but really hate it in my books
*raises eyebrow
"Nah-Nee!?"
QUICK
WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE TECHNOLOGY OR CONCEPT FROM A HARD SCI-FI STORY
Don't play dumb. You are stevian, aka the guy who made the thread, aka the guy who wrote the book in OP's picture, ergo the shill who has unsuccessfully tried to meme us into buying his book.
Yes, look in the archives we did it a bunch of times.
At least that the video game anons, and pedo user stopped memeing.
>i did this the last two threads
>now I will spam it every thread
I made the thread, I am not Stevian Heartbound, I think the autist deserves some publicity since he actually finished something, I haven't read his shitty book because he hasn't provided a full ebook download of it (LOL ENJOY 300 FREE PAGES = FUCK YOU)
>I haven't read his shitty book because he hasn't provided a full ebook download of it
>Giving your book out for free
Nobody is that stupid, right?
If he wants people to shill his stupid book to more people and make people who enjoy his book to actually buy it then it makes sense
If it's a complete garbage book, then nobody will buy it anyway
Basically, making your book pirateable is good for business, in all aspects of media, be it tv shows, movies, video games, books, etc...
So should I get published first AND then put it out there in e-book format or is it the other way around?
>halfway through Words of Radiance
>Kaladin finds out Moash is plotting against the king
>does fuck all about it because Moash argues BRIDGE FOUR FUCK YEAH
>Kaladin is confused, asks Syl if there's different kinds of honor
>"no, only the kind I tell you to stick to"
This shit is so badly written. I need something to calm down.
>next chapter is a Shallan flashback
Kill me now.
>Sanderson is garbage
>reading the second novel in a series of garbage
Why are you mad, it's like shooting yourself in the foot and blaming the gun.
I know it was the early 90's but fucking hell is The Deed of Paksenarrion a bad title.
Nobody in the book even calls her that because they recognise that the name is so long and silly.
>not reading stuff just so you can shit on it with accuracy
Sanderson would be one of the best fantasy writers ever if dialogue wasn't an essential part of storytelling
Fuck exposition. I have the right to be puzzled.
>Sanderson would be one of the best fantasy writers ever if dialogue wasn't an essential part of storytelling
What I pointed out isn't just an issue with dialogue. It's a bigger issue of characterisation. Honor is a big part of who Kaladin is but he doesn't acknowledge the treachery in Moash's actions. In the space of a few paragraphs he turned into a pushover who agrees to meet with Moash's co-conspirator just so he doesn't have to arrest his friend.
Well yeah it is a characterisation issue.
I just didn't want to give him too much shit for it since it's at least readable, he's bad yet still miles better at it than Weeks or a lot of the other modern sanderson style copycats.
Publish it then "leak" it
People who won't like it won't care, people who like it will either pirate it and won't buy or pirate it and buy and then will shill it for other dumb people
Stevian is a retard and will only put out "lol 300 free pages"
I won't even read that shit until I know I have all the pages
This, but if you're doing a series, only make the first e-book free. The rest of them should have paywalls over them.
I enjoyed The Last Question a lot, are there any similar books? I'm not looking for action sci-fi at all.
Has someone compiled Worm into an ebook?
I'm not trying to read a million words on a computer screen.
Just wait for the edited version.
>not reading stuff just so you can shit on it with accuracy
I understand the appeal, but I've got too many actually good books to read this would be a waste of time.
Would you stick your dick in a consult skin spy?
How the fuck do you open the chest that contains the Horn of Valere in the WoT? I must have missed something.
if i could consider it feminine and a better picture would also help
you probably missed something
>you probably missed something
I don't think he did. It only says that Padan fain can't do it. It's implied that only a Aes Sedais can do it.
I think Fain couldn't open it because Moiraine warded the box with a shitload of protections against evil shit and since Fain is basically possessed by a Lovecraftian evil god he finds it difficult to override them.
What's the best series for totally dissacociating myself from this world and getting my mind pathetically lost in a fantastical realm?
Howl's Moving Castle series by Dianna Wynne Jones
The Stormlight Archive.
Don't listen to the shiters saying it's shit
It's Amazing
It's about who he's honorable to. He wants to be honorable to his fellow darkeyes, Moash a good boy didn' do nuthin', but he thinks lighteyes are scum who only think about themselves. If he rats out Moash he's betraying his proud noble oppressed people and siding with the oppressor, if he doesn't he's betraying actual honor and Syl, which has consequences.
The question in WoK was, do I have honor or do I give up and die. The question in WoR is, do I have honor when I have to let people that wronged me go unpunished. And it ties in with the oath that gives him anime powers.
What's better in your opinion for a series of books? Always better to hear others opinion on this.
>A Main Villain who is either subtle or blatantly obvious from start to finish, but it's always going to be about defeating him/her/it in the end.
>A new villain every book or two that all tie together, yet have different motives and emerge during different circumstances.
>A mix of the two with a new villain every book for the Main Character to defeat, but in the last 3 books (in a series of 7 books) it all builds up towards fighting a single villain who is the result of the past 4 villains before him/her/it.
Always the first or the second. They both have their place, but don't bait and switch.
I'm 80% through WoK and I have to say it's way better than what I thought from reading these threads, but still not "amazing" tier.
It would help if Sanderson could go a little more GRI, his "war" has lots of violence but no sexual stuff whatsoever. Very American of him to be so open with blood and gore but completely clammed up on sex.
Depends on the book. You can't just randomly choose "I like this one the best so I put it in".
They're fighting crab people who don't surrender.
I haven't read much fantasy in a few years (excluding favorites like Robert E. Howard and and part of A Wizard of Earthsea,) but I've been playing Witcher 3 as of late. Are the books worth giving a shot?
>ongoing
>2 books
please suggest another
Reminder there are no Villains. Everyone or everything has motive and/or reasons.
I assume by "crab people" you mean the Parshendi, although they aren't described as crabs. More like humans with different skin color and skin-grown armor.
Or did you mean the chasmfiends?
They're humanoids on a crab world that grow carapaces.
That's one of the few complaints I have on Sanderson . I don't understand the fear some Authors have when approaching sex. It doesn't even need to be explicit, but not mysteriously implicit too.
They're actually Voidbringers
You're probably right. I'll limit myself to the two first options when it comes down to seeing what fits.
Fair enough. I was honestly debating between the two first options because I can't settle for something or someone who will/could be the main antagonist.
That's just the spirit of the times, though. You wouldn't expect sex in a book written in 1900. You also wouldn't expect the violence to be very gory, and it isn't, very few guts and brains flying around.
In his case it's probably a religious thing.
>That's one of the few complaints I have on Sanderson .
More or less. His dialogues could use some work, his characters are CONSTANTLY quipping at one another like they're all Tony Stark or something.
>if they don't describe people doing it they're afraid of sex
Logical leap t b h.
>Reminder there are no Villains. Everyone or everything has motive and/or reasons.
>like they're all Tony Stark or something
Kek. It's funny because you're right.
I think that explicit sex in a book makes it cheap. You force the Author to show his intimacy whether you want it or not. What I hate is the really small hints he lays on the subject.
In Mistborn, if I recall correctly (only read the first 2 books), the closes we had to sex is something like: "She woke up naked in the tent the next day"
They fucking lived in the same house and didn't even share the same bed. It's retarded in my honest opinion.
Even in the Stormlight Archive, the relationship between The Big Boss and the Milf is childish.
The line in Stormlight that's something like "And by the way, I'm courting your mother" is fucking hilarious
It's simultaneously hilariously tame and the most awfully demeaning way to speak about her possible
Psstt hey kid.
Have a gander
There is also this
As long as there are prerequisites for the villains in place after the 1st book, and as long as they are proper, like their motives actually make sense instead of just "LOL IM EVIL" it will all be good.
You don't even have to announce their intentions, just give them proper motives and motivations and write around that, and that will (mostly) be enough
What's Green like? I saw it mentioned somewhere else
Also in The Painted Man does the dad die quickly? I gave up because I was so bored of him being a tosser
Loved ship breaker as a kid. wind up girl feels like Red Mars: aged badly.
How does Rothfuss defend that fake troupe sex slavery arc as anything other than veritable sjw justice porn
The best part was when the manly men of the village get btfo by ginger sissy Kvothe Mcfucksalot
Yeah, I know.
>War had no rape
War had shit loads of rape, or well, from the one war I read about, the women actually offered themselves to the invading forces in order to save them and their children from death or violent rape that results in rape
At least Jordan gets ir right.
>my reason for killing is that I enjoy it
It's easier to ruin a book with poorly done sexual tension than it is by playing it down.
Holy............... I want more........... of that book
>Reminder there are no Villains. Everyone or everything has motive and/or reasons.
Coldfire has the edgiest villain imaginable and it's fucking amazing
They can look like anyone you want them to
They just have a penis
>painted man
no the dad cucks arlon by taking a new wife, while his wife was dieing in the next room, and by take I mean fucked.
Green
it's kinda in India, girl is sold in sex slave/concubine/house mistress /w.e, a faction (gods) wants her to assassinate her her lord. She created a new god and blah b!ah b!ah
It's a fun book, and I had to wait years to read the final (longer that breeks made us wait). Also if you are one of those who own read dead authors, he died a few years ago.
not really enjoying The Magician's Apprentice so I'll try this
I liked the traps getting out to the normies through wind up. I hated that Chinese guy so bad. Why did he get away and was able to start over? Wanted the wind up to be loved by the foreigner
Hi stevian
No shilling allowed.
Then how did the ones that penetrated (kek) into the scarnc's camp live all those years taking dick? No one noticed their wife had a penis?
The facehands fingers are smaller than that, think earthworm fine.
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>I still don't understand why I wonder outside Veeky Forums. I'm reading critics on good reads saying the book is 4/5 instead a 5/5 because there's racism and sexism in a fantasy novel.
Be careful traveling down that rabbit hole if you value your sanity.
meant to link
what book was that?
please don't be JCW. Please god let it not be JCW.
Yep, I get that this is what the book is about, I'm arguing that it's done badly.
>If he rats out Moash he's betraying his proud noble oppressed people and siding with the oppressor, if he doesn't he's betraying actual honor and Syl, which has consequences.
Ratting out Moash doesn't make him a traitor to dark eyes. The bond between the men of Bridge Four is well know throughout the war camp. If Moash's betrayal was discovered by a light eyes then the whole bridge crew would be under suspicion, especially Kaladin who claims his men to be trustworthy.
By plotting assassination Moash has already put his best friends in danger. It's a form of betrayal of his kind already. By bringing him to justice Kaladin would only be doing good by Bridge Four.
But no, Moash said "Think of Bridge Four" first so he's in the right and Kaladin doubts his own actions. Good job understanding your own material, Sanderson.
>enjoying others' pain isn't villainous
It's probably retractable
I know, but there's not a lot of good fanart
What if the character doesn't enjoy causing pain, but the fulfilling of that desire to kill? A serial killer with mental illness can be a sympathetic character.
So, the shaven-haired woman who hangs around Vasher in WoR is totally Vivenna, right?
It's definitely a religious thing. He used the word "snogging" in the most recent Mistborn to describe a railway-car tryst between two characters, for god's sake. I don't expect GRRM-tier "fat pink mast" nonsense (although it does explain why Sanderson never read ASOIAF) but employing such juvenile language yanks the reader right out of the book. It's my only major gripe with him.
Amusingly enough, his most intimate book was probably Warbreaker, and even that was wholly tame
>although it does explain why Sanderson never read ASOIAF
He's gonna have to very soon.
I really enjoy reading and writing fantasy political intrigue, but I'm worried that I'm inadvertently creating an ASOIAF rip-off. Should I just stop?
If you're going to copy people, yeah. Make the book about what you like about that stuff and put your feelings into it, don't have a plot worked out or any worldbuilding and be open to what your mind tells you to put on page and it will be fantastic.