Will history absolve him?

Will history absolve him?

History already has, outside American "journalism" he was very well respected

I think the last movie to portray Mandela painted him in a fairly positive light.

kek

This.

FUCK MANDELA

>forced labor camps
>says gays as counter revolutionaries and puts them in forced labor camps for reeducation
>restricts movement of the population under threat of death
>liberal use of firing squads often without trial

Yeah Fidel Castro was a real hero. God, what have we come to that the world celebrates this piece of shit as a great leader.

Literally nothing wrong here except treatment of gays which was actually an improvement over the West's treatment and he later apologised.

Reactionaries deserve what they get

Go to bed Trudeau

milhouse is not a meme

>countries that actually matter
>countries outside of america
choose one

I never even heard of America before browsing this site

>except treatment of gays
>he later apologised

Damn, if only Hitler had time to apologize before he died. I could wear my SS uniform in the open now.

>Literally Hitler

Reddit please. In America back then gays would just be called degenerate sinners and blacklisted from society. In Cuba they at least had a path towards reintegration

>riots after a black criminal is accidentally shot by a black cop.
>mourns death of dictator who killed thousands.

lefty logic

Who are you quoting?

>Will history absolve him?
yes. he is finally a good communist.

>it's an 'americans are still in denial about their downfal' episode

He is not that far off from Hitler or Stalin. He was a totalitarian dictator who puts his opposition into labor camps or just kills them without trial. This totalitarian dictator just had better PR.

What does your y axis represent?

>Cuba before Castro: Banana republic with violent oppression of the opposition
>Cuba during/after Castro: Disproportionally powerful political entity with violent oppression of the opposition

I'd say he did pretty good, wishing that European countries would rebel against the US in order to revitalize our culture from the consumerist depths they are drowned at the moment (without the violence pls)

Importance

This. Please stop reading american propaganda and place things in context.

Well yeah but free health care!

>He is not that far off from Hitler or Stalin.

Uh huh, keep that American education coming

fucc u

I'm not even american. And the american press and celebrities are celebrating that cunt right now.

>>Well yeah but free health care!
>Americans believe this isn't hugely important

>letting Americans educate you when you aren't even American

Bottom rung

wikipedia is run by lizardmen and so is the world health organization

...

Castro managed to pull off the biggest "fuck you" to American liberalism, so yes

I'm not even remotely marxist btw

>wishing that European countries would rebel
>(without the violence pls)
you're an excuse for a man, lmao if you believe this can happen you pathetic sack of estrogen

redpill me on twitter image macros

source on more than 2 countries that "collapsed"?

Would you count all the countries that the USSR controlled?
Venezuela right now. North Korea soon.

Pretty much. Cuba is awful but it's still better than a lot of latin american liberal democracies. Also he only turned communist out of lack of options, just like Ho Chi Minh.

>Venezuela

> Also he only turned communist out of lack of options
Can you expand it?

Somalia
Ethiopia
Angola
Yemen
Sweden

The US government refused to recognize the Populist-Nationalist Revolutionaries after they toppled their corrupt gangster puppet state. It was only then that Fidel embraced Communist

Yes? Do you know about Venezuela?

Gays can go kill themselves.
Castro did nothing wrong.

But if not communist how the Populist-Nationalist Government would seem like since the capitalists were btfo?

I'd rather not be randomly executed and die in a mindless post-revolutionary terror that usually happens

I prefer a rebellion that's done in good spirit and bloodshed that can't be tracked to the political party (read: minimal violence, preferred none)
I definitely admire the way Brexiteers and Trump handled their business, I can only wish that the nordic countries could get a localist boost in the mainstream conciousness and get rid of the US/Brussels control

They could have just called themselves democratic "freedom fighters"

Is this Veeky Forums

it wouldn't be if Veeky Forums had moderation

*would look like

Le gays are okay but le capitalists are evil and deserve to be shot!

>gays
>attracted to people who have the same genitals as them

>Capitalists
>exploitative parasites

Yes I see you're right, its gays who are the bigger problem

Can't you see? It's both.

Well if you go around shooting capitalists why do weep and moan when the capitalists do the same to you?

You don't respect human rights, rule of law, or due process so I don't get why you magically expect not to be treated like the outlaw scum you are.

>why do weep and moan when the capitalists do the same to you?

Because we're not Capitalists and are perfectly innocent, what are you retarded?

If there's anything I learned from 1984, capitalists don't need to be killed to get the point across.

You reap what you sow. If you're that convinced of your own purity you can do all sorts of horrible things in the name of your ideology. The rest of the human race responds in kind.

>what are you retarded

Well, haha, you're still a communist in 2016 so I wouldn't go around calling people names if I were you. The revolution failed a long time ago, give up, it's over. Castro finally dribbled his last. Time for you to fade peacefully into obscurity and join the ranks of all the other failed utopian movements.

>Killing capitalists isn't a crime because they disagree with me!

Guilty deserve punishment, innocents do not.
I don't see why this is so complicated for you

A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism.

Their liberalism makes it impossible for them to comprehend simple concepts that disagree with their world view.

These are the kind of people who believe in Wilsonian altruism.

Who is in charge of judging guilt?

I say that you are the guilty ones.

Power positivism is all fun and games until you're on the receiving end of it. It's easy to talk big about liquidating the capitalists until they come and liquidate you.

>liberalism

>Who is in charge of judging guilt?

Reason

>I say that you are the guilty ones.

You're wrong

Churchill didn't even have to apologize, he just said some flowery wank and his estate rewrote the history books to not include the S. African concentration camps and eugenics and all that.

>better dead than red
>whines about commies killing their opponents

hmmm...

>not understanding greentext
>baby's first day on Veeky Forums

Sorry I'm from reddit.com/r/socialism, not used to this system

>highest per capita expenditure in the world
>is ahead of Cuba by only 8 places
>has famously been beaten by Cuba in previous years
>is proud of this
Amazing bro.

this is /pol/baiting right?

right?

Please, for your own safety, never speak of these things on Veeky Forums again.

absolve him of what? he was just an echo of something who other people did. history has already condemned them.

Using this meme is cultural appropiation puto gringo cabrón

this tbqh

If you can't tell you better either start reading more and getting a hand of subtext and nuance and so on, or take it to /pol/. They too are shit at subtext and nuance and so on.

First post, best post.

>start reading more and getting a hand of subtext -- or take it to /pol

But I am already eating from the trash can

But muh dictator meme

Why do leftists think they're welcome here? Veeky Forums has always been a traditionalist board with nationalist leanings.

I feel like I need slightly modified movie quotes that sound like Zizek quotes. Like here I could say a variation of I'll have what she's having and so on.

>objective facts that contradict my delicate and oblivious worldview are memes

This is embarressing, even ironically it looks like a retard made it

>t. 2013 stormfront immigrant

>This is embarressing

It's like a shitter and less self aware Quentin image.

>t. 2016 r/socialism immigrant

Quentin is also correct, but I wouldn't expect a left-winger to not play videogames and smoke weed.

Uncles Castro and Ho didn't start off as communists but that doesn't mean they weren't sincerely Marxist-Leninists later. If they were just pretending for benefits they could've just pretended to be liberals. Especially after the USSR fell, it doesn't make sense for Fidel to insist on communism unless he believed in it. Of course the same applies to all Cubans. But this undercuts the American totally truthy maxim that the vast majority of people wouldn't willingly want to live in any way except The American Way™, and, well, we all know THAT just can't be true.

>Mccarthyist detected

NO, ONLY COMMIES KILL PEOPLE, REMEMBER THE 900 GORILLION BILLION, S. AFRICA WAS A COMMIE JOB REEEEEEEEEE

>killing people is bad
Do you even want to reduce carbon emissions, dude?

To be fair, you pinkos have murdered a historically unprecedented number of people

>memes that preserve my delicate and oblivious worldview are facts

Who are the two in the center?

>not knowing the who are you quoting meme

The amount of cognitive dissociation it took for you to make this comment is staggering, but sadly expected.

tbqh anyone who thinks dictators are bad is a left-winger in soul, nothing can be cooler than making an entire country worship you

who even cares about "muh capitalism, muh economy!!!"?

We learn from the best

Castro was a dictator, that is an objective fact. Just how brainwashed are you, exactly?

liberalism would imply free elections
not in fidel's personal interests after having been a dictator for decades

You have to doctor the numbers so much it's on the level of saying the Nazis basically killed nobody, it was all the Poles and the Russians in WWII.

no one said he wasn't
lrn 2 reed