Hero or villain?

I hope Islam destroys Western civilization and all females are clitorectomized and infibulated by legal mandate

What, are you telling me that you DON'T appreciate these vibrant and enriching cultural traditions taking place on your streets?!?
I thought the French were supposed to be all about culture and refinement.

Degenerate hero.

Content aside, his prose is trash.

I wouldn't know. I only read him in the original French, and have no ear for that language.

That's alright, I haven't read him in any language, just wanted to contribute.

Hey, buddy. You're the kind of voter we're gonna start paying more attention to.

>The moment the French decide to take their country back, it's gonna be really really bloody...

Yeah, I mean that would be something new and unexpected for France...

Lanzarote is objectively a shit

What book of his would be worth reading?

i started reading submission and it's one of the worst books i've ever read. Why does lit have such an hard on for him? is it because he hate muslims?

His writing style is really wierd but I love how his characters represent The modern people perfectly. It's not about Islam, it's about the fall of our values

>Why does lit have such an hard on for him? is it because he hate muslims?

Probably. That redeems any shortcoming.

i love how houellebecq spent the entirety of submission dissecting the average french establishment intellectual in all his hollow, extremely conformist and emotionally bakrupt glory only for the real-life counterparts of the book's protagonist to react to the book not by outrage and condemnation of what utterly worthless lowlives houllebecq painted them as but by going "phew, it wasn't that racist after all!"

nobody understands how broken these people are and how disastrous of an idea it is to let them dictate (the establishment's) the agenda better than houllebecq does
true hero

>author writes cynic pieces about the degeneration of culture and the hypocrisy of the Modern Western hemisphere
>"heh he wants to embrace OUR neo-fascist agenda"
This level of cognitive dissonance is honestly astounding. Houellebecq criticizes the French and the immigration and growing tensions in the Nord-African communities only served as a tool. Submission was originally even supposed to be about Catholic faith. Why do you brainlets even come to Veeky Forums when it's that hard for you to come up with a rational argument? Spouting memes and using buzzwords like "cuck" that have just frankly lost all of their original meaning isn't an excuse for having shit rhetoric.

i prefer sexist houellebecq to islamophobic houellebecq.

>Calling me a brainlet
>2016

houellebecq is actually deeply sympathetic towards women though

The hero France deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

>panties

Houellebecq
>It's a fact, I mused to myself, that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as `the law of the market'. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally liberal sexual system certain people have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude. Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. On the economic plane Raphael Tisserand belongs in the victors' camp; on the sexual plane in that of the vanquished. Certain people win on both levels; others lose on both. Businesses fight over certain young professionals; women fight over certain young men; men fight over certain young women; the trouble and strife are considerable.

Wizard

white people killing out there. -->radical white people
meanwhile, you are behind the screen---> moderate white guy

>the walls of her pussy

Are you seriously trying to contrast islam with being white?

>white people kill others in the name of whiteness
Great meme, lad.

It's a translation, user.

If you actually had any reading comprehension you'd see that Submission is more of an indictment of modern Western culture than it is of Islam.

What do you think he's going to do next, lads?

>Les murs de sa chatte

What did he mean by this?

>The closings of her fanny

Yeah Houllebecq wrote that a world of just women would be a much better place, its men who the source of the evil in the world

>"I could have joined the National Front—but why bother getting into bed with those stupid assholes?"

What did Houllebecq mean by this?

>"I'll build a wall"
what did he mean by that

That FN has the right idea but they're composed of the same irrational knuckle dragging chimps that infest /pol/ and no reasonable person wants to be associated with them.

>my penis was on fire

>anyone who isn't an open-borders fundamentalist is a "neo-fascist"
This kind of unquestioning name-calling from left is losing moral authority

>moral authority

>/pol/ taking over Western civilization wouldn't be neo-fascist
>Le Pen isn't the most rampant, disgusting fascist political leader in all of Europe
Oh come on, the retarded political discussion on this website is so embarrassing. At least admit to your ideology when someone calls you out on it. This kind of "fight" against neoliberalism, globalism in general is in fact sponsored openly by the European fascistic underground. Most of the more left-leaning politics are pro protectionism and social security. That's what the "SJW" boogeyman is supposed to fight. You retards are literally clueless about what kind of political war you participate in right now.

I'm pretty sure the original term is "paroi" (which refers to an indoor wall, or more generally to the lateral limit of something; the word doesn't seem to exist in English) and not "mur" (wall).

So it's probably just a bad translation. It should be "the sides" of her pussy, not "the walls".

I don't see any problem with walls, it makes sense descriptively more than sides

>his kind of "fight" against neoliberalism, globalism in general is in fact sponsored openly by the European fascistic underground

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

>Furthering class divide, promoting censorship, curb stomping random people is better than corrupt globalism
>saying this on a literature board
The only thing that would change is that people with violent tendencies and simpletons would have it even easier. Horrible idea.

>pro protectionism and social security

Is flooding the continent with 3rd world savages whose lives revolve around nothing but terrorizing the local populace your idea of social security?

The reason the National Front and their ilk keep winning in Europe is because they're the only ones even willing to acknowledge that there is a problem. Everyone else is just toeing the humanitarian/cultural enrichment line and shitting on the locals who dare to come out and say that they're living in a fucking waking nightmare.

And before you call me a fascist or whatever, I'm not right-wing.

>fascism is inherently bad

It is though

The reason many people develop violent tendencies in the first place is because they don't have it easy though.

>Furthering class divide on a global scale, promoting censorship on a global scale, shooting and exploding people in the name of allah is better than safe welfare localism

wew lad
Localism is objectively the better option for the left, as it makes the objectives of the left even possible. Internationalism works for food and information, for other things it is catastrophic from the POV of the common man
t. other

As opposed to those who do anyway who didn't. Nice non statement

>for other things
Such as?
>it is catastrophic from the POV of the common man
Why so?

My point is that "parois" in French is not as bizarre as "walls" in English (to describe a pussy). It's not meant to be a very special or inventive expression in French.

"Walls" may provide a good image in English, but it looks like a purple prose effect, and Houellebecq's style is anti-purple.

>tfw some /heftylol/ redditor is melting down in this thread

>I'll try post memes, thats a good trick

Also, I just found that excerpt in the French original. "My penis was on fire" is:

>Mon sexe était chaud

So literally: "My penis was warm."

I was dumbfounded by the idea Houellebecq could write something like "my penis was on fire", but he just didn't. It's a bad translation.

Also I was right here: , it is the French "parois" that's awkwardly translated as "walls".

>only my penis was alive

Did her cunt become the world?

It's actually "My penis was hot." but because of the double significance they changed "hot" to "on fire". He's still very bad at writing sex scenes.

Civil war is more likely if Fillon wins and tries to implement neoliberal reforms than if Le Pen wins and enact anti-immigration policies.

The average French doesn't care about niggers and shitskins, but try to take his government job and his free education and he becomes a feral beast.

>anticipated /r9k/
>anticipated /pol/

> He's still very bad at writing sex scenes.

The way I see it is he describes sex scenes in terms of the Pornography industry in order to mark its dissatisfaction and soulless identity.

...

>tfw you look up bear bile

As if I didn't hate the chinks enough as it is.

What has that to do with anything?

>posting MDE
The worst excuse for entertainment I've ever seen. People are sucking their dick because of some screwed-up political agenda. Fuck off, I don't think someone that enjoys this kind of trash has the capacity to discuss literature in any form.

>Why so?

Because as we're seeing in Europe/etc, the end result of Globalism is that everyone wins EXCEPT for the average low-skilled/unskilled worker (or non-worker, if unemployed) - who just HAPPENS to comprise the the largest proportion of a Western nation's native demographic in the West.

Without something like a universal basic income, this is a recipe for disaster. Not hard to see why.

Sorry not reading that, delete and post again without an irony frog

youtube.com/watch?v=F9FCDfcGQqg

Literally too advanced for you.

>The worst excuse for entertainment I've ever seen.

You're right. I refer John Stewart, Bill Maher and Trevor Noah.

>People are sucking their dick because of some screwed-up political agenda.

I'm sure you think anything political agenda to the right of 'Trotsky' is "screwed-up."

Loosen up on the butthurt, buddy. We're enjoying one of the few Alt-Right comedians to make it - at your expense, no less.

Globalism is entirely a ploy to create a homogeneous serf population for the capitalist class to exploit.

Go to Reddit.

>Why so?

Because as we're seeing in Europe/etc, the end result of Globalism is that everyone wins EXCEPT for the average low-skilled/unskilled worker (or non-worker, if unemployed) - who just HAPPENS to comprise the the largest proportion of a Western nation's native demographic in the West.

Without something like a universal basic income, this is a recipe for disaster. Not hard to see why.

>My penis was warm

oh yeah, that's much better

>Globalism is entirely a ploy to create a homogeneous serf population for the capitalist class to exploit.

I know.

The trick is to realize that it's also a dream come true for Social Liberal/Leftists who want a racially/culturally/ideologically homogeneous world.

Everyone's getting played, kid. It just so happens that this time, the Economic Right is on the same side as the Social Left.

I know Tim and Eric, too. At least their schtick was funny for a year or two and they didn't shove their inane political garbage down your throat.
If just about anyone ever cared about you you should realize this pushing of aggression and ironically spewing vile bullshit about some mental image of interest groups you have is an awful waste of time. There is no solution in this political movement, just countless ways to lose your basic humanity.

This is true from a Liberal globalist perspective.
A Left internationalist would say the issue lies in the inconsistency of free commerce with the lack of power in the hands of those unskilled workers. In nations like Germany for instance they managed to retain their industrial sector thanks to mandated worker stakes in the board of directors.
Not a solution but the right direction.

>Ugh, like, can you just.. not? Can you not? Ugh. Just.. just stahp. Ugh, it's so sad, like, can you just?

Not an argument, effeminate gay man.

>class divide

If anything "fascism" will be better for the working classes. I don't really care what happens to migrant workers, that's a problem for, you know, their own governments to take care of.

>censorship

Already exists, especially in Europe.

>curb stomping random people

As opposed to all those nice Muslims who never do anything violent ever?

Sorry not reading that, delete and post again without an irony frog

>If just about anyone ever cared about you you should realize this pushing of aggression and ironically spewing vile bullshit about some mental image of interest groups you have is an awful waste of time.

What the fuck are you talking about?

>There is no solution in this political movement, just countless ways to lose your basic humanity.

We have solutions bro. Brexit, then Trump, and plenty more. Also:

>humanity

Pic related.

For your consideration.

>gatestoneinstitute.org/7470/germany-migrants-crime
>gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape
>gatestoneinstitute.org/9229/germany-lawlessness
>express.co.uk/news/world/713032/Sweden-chaos-no-go-zones-increased-police-lose-control
>washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/10/leaked-document-says-2000-men-allegedly-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve/
>sputniknews.com/art_living/201609121045224004-sweden-police-problems/
>newobserveronline.com/berlin-invader-crime-halts-dhl-deliveries/
>express.co.uk/news/world/653754/Ostersund-cancels-Earth-Hour-festival-over-fears-of-migrant-sex-attacks
>bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36713031/more-than-40-sex-assaults-reported-at-two-swedish-festivals
>gatestoneinstitute.org/9431/germany-islam-october
>speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2323/europe-on-the-verge-of-civil-war-swiss-army-chief-s-urgent-warning.html

I visited Paris several times this year to see my uncle. The number of Africans by Gare Nord is astounding. Every time I went to catch a train I would see multiple fights break-out on the street. Ridiculous.

Sad because I love France and the people there are warm and friendly, food devine and the women absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. I hope something is done.

Sadly muslims will win and conquer Europe so no he won't. 200 years from now ppl are praising allah for this great victory.

I prefer "warm" rather than "hot", to avoid the sexy undertone of "hot" (which does not exist in the French "chaud").

"On fire" is bad because it's cliché and too descriptive.

>He's still very bad at writing sex scenes.
Houellebecq is dull on purpose, he won't try to arouse you.

>Civil war is more likely if Fillon wins

'no'

We're just going to have strikes with Fillon, not civil war. Now, with Le Pen... it could turn ugly really quickly.

Yeah because fights never broke out in poor areas of Paris before immigration. Stick to Disneyland kid

Paris is lost to the horde. The rest of France is getting fed up though.

>Now, with Le Pen... it could turn ugly really quickly.

And not a moment too soon.

>resorting to memes instead of arguments
Spoken like a true /pol/tard.
>fascism will be better for the working classes
Inform yourself for once about the political agenda of the right-wing. They want to abolish the taxes for people with the highest wages in most European countries.
>censorship exists
So taking it even further will solve the problem?
>nice Muslims
Other peoples violence validates even more violence directed at innocent people that are chosen completely irrational?

Sorry not reading that, delete and post again without an irony frog

Gare du Nord is a cesspool of immigrants, it's not representative of the rest of Paris (which is too expensive for immigrants). It's like saying New York is a nigger shithole because you didn't get out of the Bronx.

I'm not saying everything's all right with our problematic number of immigrants though.

youtube.com/watch?v=sn4mVDtqi7g

>They want to abolish the taxes for people with the highest wages in most European countries.

Stop torturing your poor understanding of history and politics to suit your childish ideology. Typical wannabe Marxist: Can only spout catchphrases ("Fascism is just last capitalism!") that were abandoned by actual Marxist intellectuals one or two generations ago.

Enjoy your LARPing.

I saw fights daily. Over nothing. Usually involving 5-6 people ganging up 1-2 people, it was insane.

>What the fuck are you talking about?
Violence is never a solution you absolute retard. Try reading Stirner the next time you try to use a meme in a discussion. He talks about property, serving your own good doesn't validate crass violence.

>Violence is never a solution you absolute retard.

Wow, we got a real live Liberal ITT. Prepare to be laughed at from the Left AND Right.

Oh yea I know. For the most part I was in/around the 16e arrondissement and perfectly fine. I'm just saying for a lot of people coming into Paris for the first time are greeted by that are in for a shock.