Is "Life" understood properly?

The way we define being alive is fucking stupid and low IQ shit. I fucking hate humanity so much.

Let's take the following circumstances.

- You gain 100 IQ overnight

Congrats you just really died. Gaining 100 IQ is an enormous change to your neural network/brain which means whatever it used to be is no longer a thing. You just died.

Why do people not understand this? Why do fucking monkey ape humans think that "death" and "life" only matter if the same body keeps working?

Someone brain damaged is still considered alive as if the same person still exists.

CAN YOU FUCKING MORONS WAKE THE FUCK UP AND REALIZE YOUR SHITTY DEFINITION OF ALIVE AND DEAD IS RETARDED?

Yes, giving a little girl an iphone will completely warp her "aliveness" just like any sort of influence.

There is no such thing as alive on an individual level. It's all simply systems. Stop being shit and wake up. The worst is the brain upload and brain machine shit.

Hint: When you realize you are a deterministic being the impact is the same as realizing you will "die" one day.

The trick is that you are already fucking dead and there is no such thing as life. The difference only exists in our survival algorithms so we spread DNA. We are as dead as a rock.

The fuck is the point of this poor thread?

How much of your brain can change before you consider yourself dead?

Do you consider the 3 year old version of you dead or alive?

Why is continuity of body so important?

>How much of your brain can change before you consider yourself dead?
Until it stops working
>Do you consider the 3 year old version of you dead or alive?
Alive
>Why is continuity of body so important?
Since we only have one

So basically the moronic instinctual survival algorithm's definition?

If all of your brain was removed besides the necessary to breath/survive you would still be alive?

What if it was replaced with a different person's neuron arrangement over a 1 year transitional period?

Do you think each human is substantively unique?

>If all of your brain was removed besides the necessary to survive you would still be alive?
is this a trick question

Does a meteor stop if it wants to?

Personal identity is meme philosophy but regardless, think of this.

The Ship of Theseus paradox asks if you had a boat but you rebuilt the boat by replacing every single piece of the ship, would you refer to it as the old ship or a new ship?

Being alive and having some kind of sense of identity are two entirely different concepts. You don't even need a sense of agency for something to be considered alive.

ITT: OP has an identity crisis and addresses his local Veeky Forums for guidance. what could go wrong?

Yes, but I'm just talking about the weird way people view being alive. I personally consider most people to have effectively died many times as their personality or brain changes with things like aging or environment.

It's basically people confusing the instinct to survive with some real thing that exists. If you lived a thousand years it's not like the person you are today would exist a thousand years from now. At most you might have some memories from now, which anyone could just as easily have.

Correct. A 1 year old version of a person will be distinctly different to a 60 year old version of the same person.

This doesn't mean they are dead.

You could take this to the extreme and say that any small stimulus will change the brain in some minor way making the me from just a moment ago "dead".
To use your definition you will either have to accept that, or come up with some arbitrary measure of a minimum distance between personalities.

The other option is simply is to just allow changes over time which is much more reasnoble. You could even argue that change over time is a hallmark of being alive.

>So basically the moronic instinctual survival algorithm's definition?
Already starting with insults. This is always a good sign

>If all of your brain was removed besides the necessary to breath/survive you would still be alive?
Yes
>What if it was replaced with a different person's neuron arrangement over a 1 year transitional period?
Yes
>Do you think each human is substantively unique?
That is completely unrelated to them being alive

So just take the situation of being transitioned from your brain state to another person's brain state over a 2 year period.

Are you still alive after?

So all that is needed for you to consider yourself immortal and alive forever is that "your" heart be kept beating and a little infantile version of your brain sending it the constant signal to do so?

Let's just say after 10 years all the atoms have been completely replaced one by one too. So zero original atoms.

That configuration is you being alive? No dependency on brain state?

Yep

Hmm...
>Planck time passes
>some quantum memes happen in the brain, altering it
>both dead and alive

Yes.
Insisting that brain states or personalities or whatever must be unique is a baseless assumption in the first place.

And yes again. You're getting real good at this OP

Yes, consciusness has nothing to do with being alive, neither the way you percieve you surroundings, you are over complicating it, which is a sign of not understanding the topic you are talking about, with that being said, i do think that the definition of being alive should include viruses, they evolve over time, reach an equilibrium state with their surroundings, carry information in order to replicate, therefore there should be no debate about them being alive or not