What do you guys think of Bill Nye The Science Guy's new science show?

Is the other guy veritaseum or w/e his name is?
Holy shit these people need to be gassed

I don't think anybody on /pol/ would ever argue that gender disphoria isn't a real thing, it's the "male brain in a female body" shit that pisses them off, they compare it to Body integrity identity disorder and are angry that we just cut off their dicks and pretend everything is normal and that they are real women.

If someone genuinely passes, more power to them. But I can't stand folks who are just men in drag. It's like, who are you kidding? How can you seriously expect me to seriously view you as a woman? You have a male voice. A male bone structure. A penis. A complete lack of feminine features. You smell like a man and act like a man. You are biologically a man.

Again, if someone actually passes, I congratulate them. But that shit takes years of HRT, lucky genetics, voice training/surgery, etc. to be convincing. I'm going to put as much effort into your pronouns as you put into looking like the opposite sex.

Yes. Gender dysphoria is a real thing and it's grounded in brain biology[1]
However the debate surrounding it has become so fucking cancerous on BOTH sides.

Suddenly every second person going to college is a demi-queer-french-trans-homo girl. But only on Mondays and Tuesdays.

This no longer looks like how people suffering from gender dysphoria behave.
I think it has more to do with how these spoiled middle class mostly white city kids have absolutely no identity of their own, besides facebook, selfies, virtue signaling and other narcissistic activities.
Their identity is superficial, fragile and easily influenced by their peer group.

There is definitely something wrong with these kids, but it's not gender dysphoria.
But if the debate continues like it does today, little 9yo Sarah will get dangerous hormone treatments she'll regret for being a bit of a tomboy. Or little Timmy for playing with dolls.
Or even worse, surgery.

[1]
sindromebenjamin.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/brainsex.pdf

it's ironic how an entire movement that stems from the argument that gender norms aren't real, has literally begun to enforce strict gender norms with hormones and surgery in children

if you play with dolls they literally try to cut off your penis.

Detail the difference without reference to sociology please.

Ive always said if someone can get surgery because they feel like they are the wrong gender than i should be able to get surgery that swaps my lungs for gills.

Animals don't have gender identity

I don't think anyone will stop you from swapping your lungs with gills. Suicide is legal in some countries.

For real it's honestly none of your business, why does anyone care what people do with their lives? Let weirdos be weirdos, it's called freedom.
>inb4 muh children must be sheltered
>inb4 insignificant taxpayer money
>inb4 degeneracy (really...?)
>inb4 scientific integrity (you people are already siting science that digs into these issues because they are investigated just like any social topic)
>inb4 mutilation (not your dick, not your problem)

Why are they pushing this so hard?
A science show and this political shit is what they choose to talk about?
FFS

>romandecadence.jpg

No. It is just a troll literally from a /pol/ thread.

I volunteer to perform your gill surgery

It's on Netflix.

It's important to talk about current topics. The concept is new to a lot of people so demonstrating the science behind things will lead to a better understanding of it. Generally people just get mad at things they don't understand.

Fuck faggots

leftists hijack words, industries, trends, etc to push their propaganda and now theyre hijacking science. they cant win in an honest debate.

Google "bill nye saves the world s01e09"

Was wondering the same thing. Sure looks like him.

>it's called freedom
Oh the fucking irony.
Have you been living under a fucking rock the last decade? Are you really this fucking blind?
This is the entire fucking reason this debate got so heated.

Yes you're right, I don't give a shit what anyones does. Sadly these fucks care what I do and want to ban whatever I have to say because it hurts their feefees.

I hope you get thrown off campus without getting your degree and 30k debt because you misgendered some special snowflake.

Now there are some other ways in which it affects me indirectly, but this is the biggest one since it affects me directly.

This.
Nothing matters anyway, who cares what becomes of society?

My problem is when seem to prioritize politics over individual's well-being. Trans people have an extremely high suicide rate at about 41% before and after transformation. I'm no gender specialist, but clearly, we are handling things the wrong way right?

do you have a suggestion for how to handle it better?

>and want to ban whatever I have to say because it hurts their feefees.
There has never been legislation against opinionated free speech and never will be. A university cancelling a speaker due to widespread opposition is not the same. A group of people telling you to gtfo because you're not accepting of their lifestyle isn't the same.
>I hope you get thrown off campus without getting your degree and 30k debt because you misgendered some special snowflake.
Never happened.

Didn't I inb4 degeneracy?

The media tends to romanticize and embellish the idea of trans surgery and what not. And Ideally, I wish the media would stay out of it and just leave it to the specialist and facts to guide people.Maybe get them much needed help before hand.

Tough situation all around.

crazy people tend to kill themselves more
trans is just the current trend that crazy people use
you know, like hippies and emos before

I'm guessing this isn't really the right place to discuss this but I legitimately, unironically have felt this. Like there have been times where I've woken up and wanted to be anything but human. Where does this feeling stem from? Is it really me longing to be something different or is it because of a deeper problem?

it's because you have too much free time

It's about social witch hunts, of which there have been numerous cases.
These can ruin your entire professional career and social life. (And yes I realize there have been on both sides).

Personally I just want to have a discussion about the physiology and biology of all this.
Perhaps I don't think there is enough evidence to say that calling people "xir" or "ze" is an effective treatment, or that gender is something that can change day to day.
Nor do I think it's practical to remember a different pronoun for every person, especially when it can change from day to day while I already have trouble remember each person their name or face.

But all this would get me branded a racist sexist nazi bigot. Even though race and Nazism has nothing to do with this, but they'll just add those adjectives on because that how horrible a person I am for saying this.

I just hope you're not retarded enough to think that if we simply let them be they'll be nice enough not to advocate for restrictions on free speech, which spineless politicians will eventually cave in to.

I'm fine with people having their delusions as long as they leave me out of it. The problem is that they don't.

If someone with schizophrenia sees people that don't exist, then I don't really care as so long as their mental disorder doesn't cause them to hurt anybody. What I would have the problem with is a political movement that tries to shame anyone who refuses to believe that the imaginary people aren't real.

exactly

Sociology is just behavioral ecology pleb

Just go ahead and prove that their is a physical seperation between my life and the life of a goldfish.
Oh wait you can't.
>protip; information is physical

Considering its audience is probably the same folk watching the Big Bang theory, it seems like a radical improvement.
Yeah I could get knitpicky with the quality of the show, but that would be autistic. Anything that improves ecological literacy is a huge win for me. That being said I don't plan on watching it anytime soon

Those are the last signs of a dying empire. Ameri-shart-in-marts are so fucked, it's not funny anymore.

It's great that he is educating a new generation in science.

youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8

I'm undecided if that was cringe or brilliant.

He went from educating children to educating the manchildren who watched him as children. I view this as a regression.

it's illegal in basically any major country and you will find it impossible to find a doctor anywhere in the civilized world to carry out such a surgery

apart from the fact that, even if you do find a willing surgeon, the act will be considered illegal and against regulations in every single hospital and OR

Underrated post, brother

Everyone needs to shut up. I'm not saying these people aren't cringe-worthy but they're not asking for money; they're not asking for any laws to change; they're not asking for anything that would affect your life in any way. And if they were intruding upon your life, then fine, get mad about it, or at the very least, get mad people who don't care for things like the first amendment, regardless of what political position they don't want you to talk about. There's nothing damaging about this counter-culture, and there are absolutely way more harmful mindsets and moods in society you should worried about rather than loud and flamboyant people on the internet claiming to identify as something outside your pre-described categorical groups.

Who cares if he wants to dress up, put on make up, and fuck, even get a sex change, you don't have to put people like that in prison. Just seriously kill yourselves because you are the only ones fighting freedom.

I love Bill but this was awful and cringey. He is going to ruin his reputation. But I gotta admit I kinda like DJ seahorse

My question is why do people see Bill as some sort of scientific authority?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that he's helped popularized science some what. (even if it it popsci it is was nice for kids to look up to)

But he's not a scientific authority in anything. His only projects have been helping design parts for Boeing and making a sundial for a rover. I don't think he's ever published to a journal or had to defend a thesis in his life.

What is with SJW and using communist marxist symbols

Is this entire shit just a marxist campaign?

>they're not asking for any laws to change

>Bill C-16, currently before Canada's parliament, prohibits discrimination under the Canadian Human Rights Act on the basis of gender identity and expression.

you better believe that changing the laws is the goal of these people.

And/or what?

Considering discrimination against gender and race are already illegal, that's not an unreasonable bill to support.

Discrimination (I'm assuming) mainly applies to the job market insofar as getting hired/fired, the bill does not mean you cannot have certain opinions and share them freely.

>they're not asking for any laws to change
But they are.
They want their delusions validated with the full force of the law.

> There's nothing damaging about this counter-culture, and there are absolutely way more harmful mindsets and moods in society you should worried about rather than loud and flamboyant people on the internet claiming to identify as something outside your pre-described categorical groups.
But when Bill and The March For Science put their full support behind these movements, it's going to drive people away and further the divide we have.

These people aren't helping.

Even I know this one.
Gender is masculine like being alpha or feminine like being a cuck.
Sex is male like having a penis or female like having a vagina or intersex like god fucked up.

So what? There's nothing new about being queer.
About time the faggots stood up for themselves.
They have the right to speak French in Quebec after all.

Why are retards like this allowed to post on Veeky Forums?

Both comments you said were just blatantly retarded. It's like you don't know how to talk to people, and not even just because you're disagreeing with me, you just fucking suck.

>They want their delusions validated with the full force of the law.
Like what? You don't even know what you're talking about, you just like the way that sounded and posted it, hoping no one would notice you literally said nothing of substance.

>support behind these movements, it's going to drive people away and further the divide
Your argument is that people shouldn't disagree with one another? It's not even that you're retarded enough to think that, it's that you're too lazy and unintelligent to have come up with anything better.

If you had read the thread instead of kneejerking and raging, you would have understood what he said.

He worded it like an aspie but I can see where he's coming from.
Canada has that bill that Jordan Peterson has been railing against and New York has some similar law in the books. www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

Neck yourself

go home reddit

You do understand that this is not Reddit right?

Really activated my almonds

This was one of the saddest moments in the campaign but I say that you need to take a little easy. He probably saw a Hillary presidency as more helpful than a Trump presidency. Given that it is clear that Hillary saw value in getting the huge voter base that Bernie had, Hillary probably promised Bernie that if she got her public support then he could be an advisor or fill some role in the executive branch. This is something that would never happen under Trump because Trump wouldn't put a liberal democrat in his cabinet.

>not being Transage
I'm 7 she's 6,what's the big deal officer? You fucking transphobic bigot

>There has never been legislation against opinionated free speech and never will be.

Let's hope the USA doesn't do what they did in Europe, which is exactly that.

Where were you when Bill Nye became gas?

Could someone tell me which episode is this? I have netflix and none of the episode titles have anything to do with sex/gender. It all just seems standard memey climate change stuff.

That better be bait

Gender is a classification of nouns that determines the usage of other words in the sentence, such that they agree. These classifications are, generally, correlated with sex in the English language, though even here, exceptions apply.

Sex is a biological distinction between dimorphic breeding partners in a sexually reproducing species. As sexual reproduction is a foreign concept to you, I understand how you might be confused.

>My question is why do people see Bill as some sort of scientific authority?
Because he was on a tv show with "science" in the name back in the 90's
The same reason why they care about Pluto being a planet or dinosaurs having feathers because despite their claims of liking "science" they feel that everything important about the world they learned in grade school.

>There is no difference in the capabilities of the male and female brain
>Trans people have the brain of the other sex

You can't have it both ways people....

>What do you guys think of Bill Nye The Communist Guy's new communism show?

lmftfy

>Medical science
>"Objective"
FACT: If you study any form of biology you are in fact, a social scientist.

>You will never be a Bdelloid Rotifer
>You will never be able to break your DNA and repair it with other organism's DNA fragments
>You will never be able to keep these genes active and translate functional proteins from them
>You will never be able to eat a fungus and absorb some of its traits

there is zero evidence for Gender
it is pseudoscience

...

What the fuck happened to Bill?

he met up with soros

Popsci was never about educating people about science. It was for spreading atheism then and postmodernism now.

please give me a rigorous explanation of what you mean by "biological a male"

protip: you can't

Displaying a male phenotype

see

Having a Y chromosome. And a penis. And male sex hormones. And the cognitive processes caused by those sex hormones that are unique to men.

think the second one is all that really matters. Some hermaphrodites have a Y chromosome an d I'd give them a pass if they don't want to be called a man

that means the surgery won't take place you incredible faggot

I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE E=MC2 COMPUTER CODE IS ALL JUST ONES AND ZEROS BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL BILL

Can you test for gender markers like you can for sex?
Are there a specific array of genders that can be tested for?
If not, how the fuck is gender real? It's a concept made entirely by soft science bozos. Until you can do a biopsy or blood test find someone's gender, it's utter political bullshit

Bill Nye is a political partisan hack who stamps "science" on whatever he agrees with or "anti-science" on what he doesn't like. He went against global warming scientists like James Hansen and opposed nuclear power and until recently was against GMOs as opposed to people like Neil Degrasse Tyson who understood that virtually everything we eat is a "GMO" from the beginning.

youtube.com/watch?v=1ecT2CaL7NA

Why didn't Nye figure this out sooner? Because he puts his personal politics ahead of science.

We'll need to revise our babby-cup team, no?

>Abandoning his principles was ok because he get offered a good position

lefty """""morality""""", everyone

South Park did it nearly a decade ago

>as opposed to people like Neil Degrasse Tyson who understood that virtually everything we eat is a "GMO" from the beginning.
Well he's wrong, unless you use apostrophes to mean "actually not GMOs"
There is no trans-species miscegenation in selective breeding, like there are in GMOs.

>that song about "sex stew"
ah yes, i LOVE science!

This.