youtube.com/watch?v=x507ZlDoc-Y (skip to end for relevant part) >Science! not a Bill Nye thread but how would you articulate this infuriating"xD science is cool!" culture? I know it's nothing new, I've been irritated by it since my teens, but I've never seen it articulated by anyone. It's like a really childish attitude to this broad broad science, and I don't mean that as an insult here if you watch movies like Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs that's the exact attitude towards science I'm talking about. I assume this board hates figures in popular science? Because I think they're intrinsically related.
DO NOT post Bill Nye memes, we get it.
Pic unrelated? Although I believe "nerd culture" is directly related to what I'm talking about
It's science for the 80% of people too stupid to understand it. Its like explaining how a plant grows in grade school but for adults.
Adrian Walker
>I assume this board hates figures in popular science?
meh, if they increase the status of science in the popular culture, I think they do more good than harm. The "science is fucking awesome" crowd are annoying virtue signalers and the March for Science was a thinly veiled political march. Having said that, scientists need popular support to secure funding for actual real science, so if Bill Nye and the Big Bang Theory and other nerd culture celebrities help attain that support among the virtue signaling crowd, well it is just a means to an end.
Connor Lee
Pop-science culture creates the indignant idea that the infinite complexity of the universe could be understood by watching Black Science Man explain spaceships on Netflix, breeding the generation of people who fucking love science yet forgot highschool trigonometry. What actually needs to be done is the dissolution of the archaic, elitist academia, and reformation of teaching methods in primary schools.
Jayden Wilson
BEST POST.
This is 100% right.
This culture is just to let people feel smart so they don't realize what ((they)) are doing
Matthew Lee
Why does it upset you so much if dumbasses want to watch DUDE SPACE LMAO shows in their free time?
They aren't bothering you personally and while it might be a misrepresentation of science you're beyond retarded if you think you can evangelize the masses to "real" science.
Jayden Howard
I do not disagree with you.
Anthony Rivera
related, another user posted this hurtful piece of beauty earlier:
Only the severely mentally disabled are incapable of understanding science and higher math. The corporate controlled media/mass education loses money when informed people start asking questions. That's our problem.
I don't get it. Why not call it the "march for climate change" instead? That seems to be their primary, if not only complaint, about our current government administrations. Science is really just a process of understanding the world around us. It can be used for good and it can be used for bad. It's strange to see these crowds act as if their grasp on reality is totally correct, when in truth most of them probably deny certain aspects of reality that would conflict with their worldview.
Probably this stems from the fact that "science" has sort of become a catch all term for "my preferred reality".
Aaron Sanchez
Why would you want to? Would you prefer people to hate science? These people may never contribute shit to human understanding but they DO contribute tax dollars to fund science.
Isaiah Evans
>tfw see bill nye science man guy as kid >wow science is pcool dam >start watching popsci shit on discovery and scichannel >wow science xD >fast forward years >now actually working on real shit
desu popsci and edutainment shit is better than just plain entertainment. Its good as a thing for kids to get interested. These are not shows for people above the age of maybe 12.
The major problem with Bill "I feel like a failure and its everyone's fault" Nye is that he's now parroting everything the hyper-left tells him to. I questioned gender as a kid, what spooks me is that if I had hyper-lib parents, and I saw bill nyes show, I could easily come to the conclusion that I was not normal.
Samuel Wood
This is amazing, wow.
Landon Scott
This.
What you should be worrying about is our blatantly anti-science prez and congress
Aiden James
OP's video looks like some fucking rock concert of catholic indocrination mass. So yes, it does bother me that science is being perverted into some weird quasi-religion that is now used for political propaganda.
Elijah Long
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Grayson Barnes
Not all popsci people are worthless.
Steve Pinker has done good social science in addition to being pop sci.
Nolan Walker
popsci doesn't indeed have to be inherently bad, usually when the person doing the popsci is world class in his field it can be good. e.g. feynman, haldane then you've got le spectrum man who is a mechanical engineer or something
Ian Hernandez
>Feynman >popsci ???? His most known work is just a transcript of his lecture course
Gabriel Martin
The Feynman lectures I guess aren't technically popsci, but his book QED: A Strange Theory of Light and Matter is on of the best popsci books of all time (unlike the shit tier Brief History of Time).
ehhhh. I understand what he's saying. But then if math were truely like art, there would be a lot of people put off from it anyway. I guess it would breed more good mathematicians, but like for me, I didn't fit in in Art class, I wasn't cut out for "art" so I hated it and wanted nothing more to do with it. So the results for most of the population would still be the same
Logan Walker
i thought it was being on the Manhattan Project
Sebastian Kelly
>Steve Pinker He has a really good book on scientific writing that my professor makes me read. It's called Sense of Style.
Andrew Lopez
>Only the severely mentally disabled are incapable of understanding science and higher math. they can understand it, but only after putting in lots of work and effort to understand it
most of the population has other shit to do, all they have time for is glancing at a pop sci article. there is no grand conspiracy, people are just lazy or don't set scientific understanding as a priority
Carter Flores
I wonder if Wheaton knew he would peak at 13 on star trek.
Gabriel Rogers
If he buffed up he would've still been good looking into adulthood.
Matthew Nelson
infuriating was a strong word to use, but yeah I really dislike it. The typical arrogant scientist is bad but in at least he's arrogant for a reason. People like this are arrogant even though most of them are less intelligent than the average Veeky Forums poster, just their interest is in feeling smart and having an unwarranted sense of superiority about themselves rather than watching kawaii anime shows.
>you're beyond retarded if you think you can evangelize the masses to "real" science I disagree, but first off cool it user we're all friends here. I just don't see anything stopping these people from explaining why public funding of things that don't have an immediate impact on them are important without being an arrogant dick about it and making cringey nerd culture memes like shouting out "Science!" for no reason.
>Only the severely mentally disabled are incapable of understanding science and higher math user 25% at most are suited for doing maths.
>inb4 "3/4 of population are retarded" in all seriousness you're being a dick. Some day you'll learn to be a more accepting and I know you'll be a better person for it!
want a rational argument for why misrepresenting "science" by putting out arrogant assholes as the face of their lobbies? Simple, there's always going to be shifts in culture. Appealing to people with memes is a terrible idea because 10 years from now there might be a popular backlash against the entire scientific community. Not even talking politics but I guess you could make a /pol/ argument for why they shouldn't shill liberal values too which I believe majority of most western nations are now against just over the last 3 years.
I agree completely. The reason I brought up the kids movie is it reminds me of these people and their mindset, guess they never grew out of it like you did?
