Did you go into engineering for the money?

Did you go into engineering for the money?

No engineers here buddy.

Please someone explain this meme to me
I'm a meme-brainlet and doesn't understand the "engineers are gay" meme

basically its a bunch of chemists pretending to be mathematicians who want to justify waiting in line for their unemployment cheques because their field is "pure".

In reality, engineers and mathematicians work together in almost ever field, especially electronics and computer science.

I'm assuming because of the very small number of females in those fields.

Yes desu

>Did you go into engineering for the money?

the money is nice, but i did it for the versatility. engineering is pretty easy once you get a few years in your field, and you can take your skillset pretty much anywhere in the world.

Veeky Forums likes to meme about being "wageslavery" but good engineers are treated very well. the perks, man, its all about the perks.


also, its a good path to self employment. many of my peers who have their PE do side work, and of those that do most could do it full time if they wanted. its all rinky dink shit like stamping truss designs and sewage systems for tract housing too. i plan on doing something like it a bit later in my career.

I'm on chemical engineering and no.

I actually love the chemical engineering courses. They are a lot of fun. Plus I find industrial processes extremely interesting and they make the world go around

I wanted to do physics but there's no industry in physics besides engineering
Plus the actually cool topics in physics like low temperature or particle physics are hard to get funding for independent research
Engineering is just physics that gets funded lmao

Got a bachelors in microbiology and started grad school in a mediocre genetics program. Realized I'd be pretty much stuck in a lab the rest of my life and my dad knew a guy at a chemical plant who let me intern over there. Had a blast at the plants and doing field work working with people and solving problems. Now I'm done with my chemical engineering degree in 2 weeks.

I went for the bitches, I just ended up with the money.

No, but I love the money.

Most people do

Yes but I'm so uninterested in the field that I won't make any.

I was interested in spectrums so I joined Engineering.

Its people with worthless majors in (((math))) that want to feel like they are usefull even though everything from thwir entire major can be looked up on wikipedia. Physics degree memes are one step above but not usefull to modern life becaise there are only a handfull of people innovating in physics and everyone else eats their shit. At least engineers do something usefull with their lives

>the chemical engineering
but how did you know you loved them and thought they were fun before you chose to get into the major?

I wouldn't have gone into it if I didn't honestly like it, but I also wouldn't have busted my ass studying and gone into a demanding stressful career field if it didn't also pay a bunch of money. So I wouldn't really say I went into it for the money, but I'm not going to pretend I would've gone into it if it didn't pay well.

has the money made you happy?

No, I just wish I had more.

>implying engineering earns a lot
>inb4 comparing to street cleaners

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You have to be honest with yourself. If you aren't in love with physics or math AND are clearly highly, highly intelligent; no doubt going to do something groundbreaking and do something important, then just pick engineering. You will have more opportunities to do something important. Physics and math are BIG LEAGUES. If you are not extremely gifted, you will NOT amount to very much at all and you will WASTE your time. Engineering on the other hand, you can easily do something important if you are just above average of the engineers... BIG fish in a small pond. You will have a much safer financial situation as well. Maybe 60 years ago, I'd say sure, do physics or math if you're smart enough, but now not so much. Graduate school, getting grants, it's a fucking nightmare in 2017. You will wish you chose engineering every fucking day. Read physics and math texts on your own time. Engineering degrees hold much more monetary and legal value than a math or physics degree ever will.

Yes.

>and you can just go to grad school for math of physics or whatever you want after your engineering degree anyway, but you can't go into engineering with your math/physics degree

Zero downside unless you have been 110% all in on physics or math since day 1 and are extremely gifted, not one downside at all.

went into mechanical engineering and i don't know why i even chose it because i fucking hate the course
now i'm finishing my first year and cant transfer course
>wake me up inside

what do you hate about it?

when Veeky Forums was new most people on here were engineers.
/b/ raids sci posting gay porn claiming engineers are gay.
newfags think it's a meme
it becomes a meme

The money is top notch for the hours I put in, the job itself is satisfying, my co-workers are all reasonably pleasant people (the antisocial ones keep to themselves) and I don't have to deal with politics/lecturing/trying to get funding or anything like that.

Engineering is the high life for smart people. Honestly I'd enjoy it more if I were in an industry more aligned with my interests but I'm pretty happy where I am.

Job market is cutthroat though so if you're asking for suggestions, go into something different unless you have connections in the industry

>Job market is cutthroat though
only for entry level positions. engineering is weird like that, once you get a few years under your belt people never stop pestering you on linkedin.

I'm pretty sure math people have more options such as business but yeah. In that way math people are pretty close to engineers that they always have the option for business.

No. If I wanted money I would go into banking or oil industry.

I feels like people who went for money end up hating their job.

Why is that even a meme?
Don't chemists and engineers work alongside each other by principle to help with space flight?

I mean maybe it's outdated thought by now but fuel and resources gotta come from somewhere.

was microbiology worth taking? was considering taking it this fall

engineers doesn´t demostrate equations so they deserve all my hate

To some degree. I wanted to go into mathematics but was worried about job opportunities, pay and my parent's approval of the major. So I went with EE instead.

This isn't even true though. Most of my friends with physics degrees that didn't go to grad school now have a job title ending in "engineer"

Honestly, no.
I went into engineering because I love rockets and want to launch shit into space. I'd do it for free so the pay is just a huge bonus. I'm also trying to get an astrophysics degree once I finish Aero Eng.

ITT: college freshmen in engineering majors whine about getting picked on by science students while pretending they make >$100k/year, despite the fact that 90% of them will never make more than 80k

Do you like pipes? Y/N
That is how you know if ChemE is for you.

Why would anyone go who cares solely about making money go for engineering? You'll only make 80,000 as a average median wage.

If you cared about money, you would get a phd in physics and make 200k a year for an end game. You can become a actuary and make 400k after 20 years. You can become a data scientist and make 500k a year making Quants for wall street.

I think 80k is an outdated statistic. Pretty much everywhere around my area (Michigan), engineers are making an average pay of 115k

>get a phd in physics and make 200k a year for an end game.

This is correct. Only do math or physics if you really love it. There's no point if it's not something you'll be doing the rest of your life.

That guy got a PhD from a no-name garbage school and offed himself like the retarded fag he was

Oh, okay. I had thought you didn't know what you were talking about, but now I know for sure that you have no idea what you're talking about
Do you literally not know how useful math majors are? I'm not even a math major, but even I can see that it's used for Finance, research in scientific fields, and countless other things I can't recall atm.

Look up the median starting salary for math majors and PhDs

>thinking they hand out PhDs
Boy, are you out of the loop. Sad!

I remember when I was a naive undergrad/high schooler. You're not going to break 100k until mid career unless you live in a high cost of living area sonny boy.

In software and computer engineering, they start pestering you before you graduate.

Partially. I realize college is a waste of money if I can't get a job, and I would be happy in any career where I can use science and math to create things, even if it isn't "pure science for the sake of science" research.

Yeah, I did.
I also thought I would be able to make really cool stuff single handedly with my knowledge but I'm in my 3rd year now and I'm realizing that that's probably not going to happen.
But hey, if being able to find stresses and do Mohr's circle diagrams and find the factor of safety on a hand crank is what makes me money I won't complain.

>In reality, engineers and mathematicians work together in almost ever field, especially electronics and computer science.

Citation needed.

Neither as a post doc nor in my time in industry did I ever see this. Anecdotical evidence, sure, but I am sure you have better material.

And then when you are 35 they look for ways to kick you out. HR thinks you have to be 25 - 35, anything above must be in management or out.

This is why I got into Engineering actually, I wanted to do Physics but the fact that I would be a welfare baby didn't appeal to me.

Besides, the way I see it, I can still get an advanced degree in Physics down the line. Then retire and just do research until I die.

I think that most people who are supporting engineering in favour of a physics career are pretty out of touch with industry. There are a lot of job openings for people who focus on condensed matter and materials physics, plasma and surface physics, optics, etc. Admittedly the ones with a better pay do mostly require a PhD, but there's still plenty of them. This may be different in USA though.

For me it all started when I cracked open like an egg my dads watch

Yeah, my friend was told that early on and graduated with a Physics degree, he's working at a hotel because there is no industry.

no. I just liked biotech and genes

I did. Thankfully I came to my senses and chose to switch to a major I actually like (mathematics) after the first year.

The money has made me happy! Stressful classes but when a company hired me for starting $95k with bonus it was awesome. You get inspired to open your own business with that money.

which eng?

i went into engineering because they were the only majors that interested me at the time, and they seemed to have good chances of employment after graduation.

in the end i was wrong on both accounts.

>going into ANYTHING only for money

>very small number of females

Literally every STEM field aside from maybe biology

Nope wanted to be an EE in HS since I liked fucking around with soldering breadboarding but quickly turned to pure maths.

Bio tends to have the most, chemistry also has a good number of females. They'll probably increase in the other fields as well over time probably.

I did it because I didn't want to be stressed by lack of jobs like my scientist parents.

Why the hell would you waste 3/4 years of your life getting a degree for money? Just sell meth you degenerates

So basically most STEM fields

You don't do engineering for the money, you do it for the perks.

Engineering is piss easy and after you stop being the FNG you are only working 40 hours a week. After you get your license you can sit on ass in your house and still make good money doing very little work. You get to travel, you get to go to cool little boondoggle """"conferences"""", you get to do neat side projects with other peoples money.

all of this with just a bachelors degree. no other field really lets you do that.

First year courses in ME are nothing compared to Junior, Senior year courses.

Fluid Mech, Thermo, and Vibrations are the real hell.

Materials science isn't offered as a non-engineering degree in my school, but the financial stability helps as an auxiliary.

For the logic, all non engeneering degrees are illogical mess. Maybe besides philosophy.

>PhD in pure maths
>300k starting
>any job I want

philosophy is full of fedoras jerking off ancient greeks.
How is it not illogical?