How are esslemonts malazan? I know like Erikson he isn't a trained writer so I'm not expecting much but how terrible out of 10 is his writing?
Michael Martinez
Good adult 1person fantasy? I'm a noob here.
Jeremiah Brooks
Anyone here read Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay? I would like some recommendations for other books where the characters are written as good as Brandin.
Nathan Nguyen
Read Lions of Al Rassan
Christopher Price
By adult do you mean GRI?
I read tigana and enjoyed it for the magic. If you want books that give you the magic feel I can recommend some.
Blake Phillips
But there wasn't much magic in Tigana, right? You had the wizards of the peninsula and then you had 2 powerhouse sorcerers of whom Brandin was the most powerful. I remember the other sorcerer guy thinking "How can one man have such power?"
Asher Flores
>GRI what is it?
I dunno, something dark and without much romance. The witcher is close to it.
Luis Lewis
The First Law
Hudson Martin
>No More Shill Edition
>Links NPR's top 100
l e l
Aaron Morgan
Is there something from the first-person point of view?
Brayden Nguyen
I am talking about the King's Fool showing his emotions etc. There was plenty magic in Tigana. Then again maybe I am remembering wrong or confusing it with another book. I read it in 2008
>>GRI GRI is pic related. >what is it Not what. I have a bunch. Dark? Night Angel Trilogy is pretty degenerate, so is Broken Empire Trilogy. A lot say they are edgy but whatever. Everything dark is "edgy" for these guys nowadays. Witcher is edgy for them. Bakker is edgy. Black Jewels Trilogy is edgy. Pick your poison.
Michael White
A wannabe author put his own shit book in someone's chart and replaced the link a few weeks ago. I think that is what the OP is talking about.
James Martin
I want to write the first-person dark story. I would read anything if it's good written.
Landon Gray
Hey /sffg/ how about some good holiday themed science fiction/fantasy recommendations?
Alexander Adams
Does this have some sex and romance/love sub-plot in it?
Angel Adams
>ywn tap prime dunyain ass
Blake Walker
What are some decently written fantasy/science fiction books with anti-heroes as protagonists?
Does The Blade Itself count as such? At least I liked the inquisitor. But other than that, I really liked reading about Pavek in Chronicles of Athas.
Easton Cook
I'm not sure about having a sphinx as a riddle in my fairy tale. On one hand I need someone to ask the riddle and a sphinx works best, but on the other, most famous mythical creatures have only one iconic fable
>Oedipus and the sphinx >Perseus and the minotaur >Oddyseus and the cyclops >Hercules and the hydra >Franketstein's monster >Van Helsing and Dracula >Pinnochio and all artificial humans >The little mermaid >Harry Potter and the basilisk
I would feel comfortable replacing the sphynx with a ghoul or barghest (both of which work for my story since them being canine helps the story), but they don't have the same tendency for riddles
Unrelated, but is there anything wrong with naming an artist who is connected to ghouls "Ross Pickman" after Ra's al-ghul and the-ghoul-who-was-Pickman?
Ethan Collins
>Ross Pickman It'd be a pretty on-the-nose reference to Pickman, not many people would miss it. The question is, is the distraction the reference causes your reader outweighed by other factors like your reader feeling clever for picking up on it? I can't answer that in a vacuum.
Cooper Perry
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Benjamin Campbell
I don't think it would be distracting. If I named the riddle-spouting ghoul I proposed Pickman it might be another story.
Honestly I really wish the one-myth-per-beast rule didn't exist. I really do wish I could have the sphinx (beast) that looks like a sphynx (hairless cat)
Andrew Walker
>reading Words of Radiance >it's another Shannad flashback chapter AGAIN
I'M GOING TO FUCKING SCREAM
Jackson Gutierrez
Shallan* I can't even remember the cunt's name. Just give Pattern away and go sleep with the fish.
Elijah Myers
Is there anything wrong about ending a story about a kid whose parents are killed in front of the, with the kid reuniting with their parents in an alternate universe where they were killed instead
Parker Sanders
depends, only if you take a boy with who suddenly found his crush's number on his phone...
Jonathan Howard
FINDS
Jace Hall
anyone got a link for the Babylon's Ashes audiobook
I know the general is for discussion only, but I couldn't find a request thread on lit
Xavier Butler
Guys, I have heard that Brandon Sanderson has the most interesting magic systems amongst current fantasy authors.
Help me get into Sanderson. Which of his work should I read first, then what next?
Jordan Hall
Start with the Stormlight Archive, it's certainly the most expansive and the best out of the bunch. "The Way of Kings" is the first book. ~1000 pages. Only two so far are out.
It'll be hard at first to get into it because you have to figure out a lot of stuff by yourself, but as the book goes on you'll figure it out.
Ethan Morgan
Stormlight Archive.
Don't read anything else. If you like it, you will eventually read his other works.
Thomas Rogers
Funny neither of you two didn't mention Mistborn. YouTube reviewers keep pushing how it's Sanderson's magnum opus. Even Sanderson himself named his Reddit profile /u/Mistborn
Thomas Gray
Last call, should I replace my riddling sphinx with a riddling lovecraft ghoul, or is there a better, more unique option that's canine or feline in appearance?
Oliver Green
Try a faun as in Spanish folklore. Like the one from the movie Pan's Labyrinth
Logan Morris
It has to be canine or feline in origin. I guess a rat, mouse, squirrel, centipede or spider would also work, but a faun is straight out.
Matthew Phillips
not his superhero "steelheart" / reckoners shit
I like him, but that stuff was the worst.
Xavier Lopez
what about a bargehest. Nobody makes shit with barghests in it
Ethan Robinson
Oh boy.
1st: the original Mistborn triology is complete. The Stormlight archive is his "de facto" Masterpiece. Brandon hiself admits that.
2nd: The Mistborn Series was supposed to be a standalone book. "The final empire" can be read as a standalone book, and it was really enjoyable. Not epic fantasy, no world building, but still a great book. The second Mistborn, however, was one of the most atrocious works he's ever done. It's fodder from star to finish. Nothing happens in the entire book, and you're introduced to the most cringy cliche characters he ever wrote.
Christian Fisher
Look, I just need a modern epic high fantasy with humans and elves and political intrigue and shit.
Carter Butler
Forget Mistborn then.
Ethan Bailey
I'm trying to get into Discworld right now. I'm reading them in order, I have finished the first two and started Eaqual Rites tonight.
Am I doing this sort of right or is there anything else I should now ?
Also, I want to read Tolkien soon. Can I just start with LotR or should I read anything else beforehand ?
Brayden Allen
reading them in chronological order is entirely fine. The only reason to rearrange them is if you are in any particular rush to finish any of the series
Lucas Hughes
How's the third one?
Isaac Torres
I mean you should probably start with Hobbit first it's an easy read and not very long.
Noah Watson
I was hesitating about that, the fact htat it's apparently for children made me a bit cold.
I'll check it.
Xavier Barnes
You think I'm some kind of a masochist?
Chase White
I think a sexy feline would be best.
Christopher Bennett
I liked the third book. Except for the ending. I was okay with the ending when I later reread the series.
Josiah Russell
Currently reading The Great Ordeal. I just reached the part with the discovery of the whale-mothers. I'm a huge fan of the Tleilaxu, so that really pleased me.
Levi Ross
does hyperion actually get any good? its pretty slow right now
Robert Foster
Dunyain genocide best day of my life
Matthew Scott
Books I'm currently reading/have read:
Sci Fi- -
The Aeronaut's Windlass Ender's Game Leviathan's Wake Caliban's War Abaddon's Gate
Fantasy- - The Eye of the World
Do you guys have any suggestions for Sci Fi novels that feature a gang of people traveling through unexplored space encountering alien creatures? Or maybe people stationed on remote refueling stations? I love deep space psychology exploration.
Henry Adams
Possibly the Sector General series. Each story is about encountering unknown aliens in distress and attempting to discover enough about their psychology/biology to patch them up.
Andrew Lewis
Bro that sounds phenomenal. Thank you so much for the suggestion.
Aiden Collins
No problem. They're great light reading.
Brody Young
What are they shilling?
Josiah Gutierrez
The lord of the rings is fine to read by itself, and its all most people will ever read. I doubt many got into the silmarillion ;_;
Discworld can be read in the straight order, or you can read the constituent mini-series like the wizards, watch, witches etc. Personally I read all the wizards books first, then the witches.
Angel Peterson
Honestly you should read the next book in the Ender series Speaker for the Dead. It's a totally different change of pace to Ender's Game but hits the niche you describe.
Jayden Moore
The Traitor Baru Cormorant is pretty good political fantasy with some solid world building, but there aren't any elves or dwarves and it tends more towards low fantasy.
Aaron Garcia
>elves Not many authors do Elves anymore, they're not vogue. Try out Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams if you really want some modern epic fantasy with elves. I'd say his best work is Shadowmarch, but it's more fairies and gods than elves.
Christian Davis
Ghoul, sphynx or barghest. which one do I use?
Kevin Russell
Just finished the first book in dune. The series looks pretty long. How much of it should I read before it becomes excessive?
Adrian Allen
I don't know why everyone is so hard for Sanderson. His worldbuilding is cool but his characters are fucking noxious. Kaladin is the only halfway decent one in that series so far and I still get sick of him.
Aaron Gutierrez
:3
Logan Anderson
...
Samuel Morris
You know what? Fuck the sphinx and the other riddle too. All I do is make this story more complicated than it needs to be without increasing the quality
Adrian Harris
You're really asking for it this time, but I'll relent.
Kayden Jones
You could just take a step back and simplify. For example, a riddle carved into something beneath an effigy of a sphinx or some shit. I don't know what your setting is though.
Matthew Watson
I know, I know. I'm sorry. I just cant stop coming up with ideas and then second-guessing them and third-guessing them and fourth-guessing them etc.
I am. and there are two simple version of the story:
>1. I only leave in a single quest (catch the basilisk fly) >2. I cut that out too and just say that the oracle has the power to control gravity
2 is the simplest, but it might be too simple, and leaves the introduction of her full powers looking like an asspull, even if I build up to it
1 has elements I want and works beautifully, but I don't want to stop there
Jayden Cooper
Metro 2033 Hull zero 3 Enjoy
Michael Rogers
If Sanderson had any real competition I doubt he'd be so popular. He's not the only author who does what he does, but he's the only one putting out books on a yearly basis and is consistently delivering what he promises. You won't want to be in these threads if GRRM's sixth book comes out cause it will take a year probably before people stop shitposting about it.
Grayson Peterson
wermachtaboo here. are there any sffg nazi books that aren't about a poc transspiecies womyn taking down all of nazi germany?
Luke Rivera
Yes.
>Or maybe people stationed on remote refueling stations? GRRM's short story called something like The Second Kind of Loneliness
Logan Miller
Where do you guys buy old books? I need a store that ships to South America.
Adam Nguyen
MyAnonamouse. They're pretty cheap and the delivery is fast.
Noah Gonzalez
Support your local book sellers lad
Jaxson Lewis
I do, but they don't have the books I want. Mostly fantasy novels from the 80s and in english.
Nathaniel Perry
Thanks! I'll read up to God Emperor then. A series that long can't help but degrade into a fanfic of itself but 3.5 books is manageable.
Carter Hughes
...
Noah Bennett
Which country?
Ayden Richardson
Also Man in the High Castle
Ethan Perez
...
Hudson Harris
>Don't touch me you filthy fucking non-virgin >The /r9k/-dragon's daughter.
Adam Butler
Am I a bad person for enjoying the witcher saga?
Xavier Price
Brazil
Noah Mitchell
As long as you're aware that liking something doesn't make it good, there's no problem enjoying anything bad.
Kevin Thompson
Why are you guys sending your old, tired and used up whores to my country? Why do you guys like anal so much?
Wyatt Roberts
>liking something doesn't make it good But that's exactly how it works. If you don't like it it becomes bad, rather.
Parker Perry
I think the priest's story was where it got good. If you're already past that and still wondering when it gets good, maybe you won't like it
Jayden Ortiz
My favorite book is Frankenstein. I've read it at least half a dozen times and gotten something new out of it each time.
I also really enjoy pulpy stuff like Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and I've read and enjoyed the Sprawl Trilogy and Snow Crash.
Is there anything as pulpy as the Lankhmar books but with more depth? Sci-fi or fantasy, either is fine.
Leo Moore
When are we getting a TUC excerpt.
Hudson Ortiz
It's not deep but Michael Moorcock's Runestaff series is simple and pulpy in the Robert Howard way, a basic good versus bad tale with a mutilated prince and his band of friends, with lots of sword fights, battles, exotic monsters and random magic/technology. It's a feudal/dying earth sort of setting where some steamunk-esque technology has survived.
Its lack of pretence, and small chapters, varied action, locales, and fast pace make it a good holiday read.
Each novel is only about two hundred pages, which I found refreshing when every modern fantasy novel seems to be as big as War & Peace. They are collected in an omnibus called History Of The Runestaff.
But if you want something along similar themes to Frankenstein, about science and responsibility, there is also HG Wells' The Island Of Doctor Moreau. It's less dense than Frankenstein and can be easily read in a weekend.
Brody Jackson
>magic "system"
Yo which author has the best contradiction in terms???
Jaxon Morris
I agree with and will add everything by PKD, especially "Do Androids Dream..." which blends pulp and depth amazingly.
Even PKD liked Bladerunner better than his own book it was based on, though.
Nathaniel Martin
That's not how it works at all. Liking/Disliking something is subjective based on your experience. Something being good/bad is an objective measure of the flaws/qualities.
Nicholas Stewart
Gateway, Pohl
Ethan Smith
1) Old, tired and used up whores can't compete with the new blood here. 2) Because sodomy used to be forbidden. Plus, lot's of ladies need convincing to do anal, to the point that it becomes a bargain chip.
Jordan Myers
What makes the Witcher books bad exactly? I greatly prefer them to stuff like Locke Lamora or anything by Sanderson.