Nuclear power

Hey Veeky Forums, what do you think of nuclear power, especially about the apprehension and the green energy shilling surrounding it? It seems like every other form of power source is more or less acceptable, even coal and gas, but when you talk about anything nuclear you're looked at as if you had just shot up an elementary school. Many declare renewable energy sources as better, but is this really true? Please tell me Veeky Forums.

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For the thousandth time, it's a dead meme and stop making these shill threads.

I definitely want to throttle the fucktards in EU parliament, who wanted to divert funding for fusion research into more fucking wind turbines and solar panels.

Nuclear is dangerous and can annihilate entire cities and destroy the world we live in.
#endnukes
#makefucknotwar

This, fucking politicans who actually care about the environment and do not want to glass entire countries by nuclear detonation should be shot, right my fellow redditors?

>nuclear detonation
put a fucking bullet in your head please

Wind turbines and solar panels actually produce power though.

>Hey Veeky Forums, what do you think of nuclear power,

Retarded meme pushed by energy corporation shills to try to maintain their monopoly on energy generation. They fear energy generation decentralisation as we keep building more and more alternative energy capacity.

The thing is, only very few countries have the infrastructure in place to build and maintain fission reactors, today. It makes sense for France to keep generating energy that way, but it doesn't make sense for, say, Hungary to embark on a 30+ year long plan to train nuclear physics and engineers, devise new and safer plants, build them, figure out the fuel cycle from procurement to waste disposal and lay out plans for reactor disassembly. It's a huge expense and not economically realistic. Compare this to simply building an HVDC grid, a solar power plant or a wind farm. Much simpler, much more realistic and much more economically sensible. And you can accomplish such a task in a year.

The way forward is alternative energy en mass everywhere where it is viable and an upgrade of the energy grid to handle long distance power distribution. With a big enough grid you don't even need that much storage capacity because there will always be some place that is generating energy. And we can always have gas peaker plants as backup.

Nuclear energy is not politically or economically viable. It's the hydrogen fuel cell of the EV market. I.e. incumbents trying to retain their monopoly on the market.

>It makes sense for France to keep generating energy that way, but it doesn't make sense for, say, Hungary to embark on a 30+ year long plan to train nuclear physics and engineers, devise new and safer plants, build them, figure out the fuel cycle from procurement to waste disposal and lay out plans for reactor disassembly

Hungary has 4 operational nuclear power plants you twat
And so does every EU country which isn't a fucking energy hispter like Austria who has to buy electricity from Slovak and Czech nuke plants anyway, coalburners like Poland and Italy for some fucking reason doesn't have one either
And reactors are being build in developing nations all around the world with help from countries with long expertise with nuclear power production, mainly Russia.

whoever thinks that you can't live a happy life in pripyat now in 2017 is basically a moron who will never accept nuclear power

In case of fission, waste is still a huge problem. You just cannot ensure safe storage for tens of thousands of years. There are already cases where we're having trouble with waste from less than 50 years ago.

I hope you intended to make this post as dumb and uninformed as it is.

solar and wind cannot make even half the energy requirements of a modern nation. that other 60 or so percent needs to come from somewhere.

hydro dams
>fucking serious 10000% better than oil and coal

Nuclear power in general is somewhat dead now on earth. Fission power atleast. Solar/wind/geothermal with high yeilds combined with advanced low loss storage tech means we will be switching to green almost entirely.
The main future for nuclear power lies in space. Solar power simply stops working at distance and Fusion tech is advancing surprisingly fast in europe.
t. PhD Nuclear engineer from University of Michigan
>inb4 eninqueer memes

this is fine when you have suitable rivers.

though you have to remember the energy they can make is limited by the height of the water drop.

then you have to add in salmon ladders for the fishies and lock systems for boats.

>italy
>coal burner
Double meaning, kek

possible still
>plus stop being wasteful cunts

We have literally run out of hydro.

Climate change sucks. If it were 30 years slower, we could just finish fusion research, build that everywhere and be done with it.

As it stands, we have to start building renewables while they are still economically unviable, because the whole 1.5 or 2 degree goal sort of runs out between 2040 and 2050.
With ITER set to work with Deuterium/Tritium the first time in fucking 2035, fusion just takes too fucking long now.

Good luck leveling every inch of half the developed countries just to squeeze out all the wind and sun exposure needed to cover 90% of their current energy supply.

spotted the guy who always failed at math

lol
>not understanding how solar and wind work
>current year
Why not even read the wikipedia page on it faggot

Just have everyone buy a solar panel and put on the roof of their house. Energy problem solved and with it climate change.

God help us, Democrats are in charge of the Space program.

Im all 4 it.

How about question test and repeat those results?

How about we cooperate with the Russians?

Not enough.
bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/

You're wrong on the economics.
euanmearns.com/nuclear-capital-costs-three-mile-island-and-chernobyl/

Waste is a complete non-problem. When you realize how little there is, and when you realize that it's not infinitely dangerous and it's not the end of the world if some leaks, then one immediately realizes that the entire thing is a sham.
thorconpower.com/docs/ct_yankee.pdf
At least talk about real problems, like proliferation, safety, and economics.

>advanced low loss storage tech
What sort of pixie dust is this? It doesn't exist, and it's unlikely that it will.

>Just have everyone buy a solar panel and put on the roof of their house. Energy problem solved and with it climate change.
It doesn't shine during most of the day. Practically speaking, it's only sunny for about 1/5 of the day. Plus other problems like winter, extended cloudy periods, etc, and it just doesn't work.
bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/

This. Ban fusion and fission from earth!

Low energy fusion is way to go.

In UK it works.

>Cooperating with the Russians
Why would we taint the American nuclear industry with IRL SS13 crewmembers? Go on /k/ and ask for Russia's greatest nuclear hits, they're pretty hilarious.