Effects of an increased IQ

Has anyone else here had a noticeable increase in their IQ after doing enough math & science? I was underage b& when I came to Veeky Forums about a year and a half ago (I'm 18 now), I decided to get my shit together and learn as much science and math as I could using textbooks and internet resources like this one. I got up to Calc II (from being terrible at Algebra I), learned the fundamentals of Chemistry, Biology, and Physics, and in general made myself a better learner with improved study habits. My grade shot through the roof. I also picked up a musical instrument 5 months ago and practiced seriously to get good at it. Aside from this, I've been eating healthier for 2 years, went from being severely underweight to a very healthy BMI for my age. I make sure to get plenty of calories and fulfill my micro-nutrient needs.

I swear that my IQ has increased. I am better at noticing patterns and making connections, much better than I was at the age of 16. I surprise myself sometimes with my thought processes nowadays, I'm able to notice things that my past self wouldn't have been able to, at least not as quickly. I figure out things much more quickly now, and learning new things seems easier. I have not had an IQ test done before, but I am absolutely certain that I have become smarter.

Has anyone else here had a similar experience? Could it be due to my neuroplasticity at my relatively young age? Is a similar effect apparent in adults (age 22+) who decided to get serious about learning and improving themselves mentally? I would love to see some research on this topic.

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Same happened to me when I was 15. But it wasn't due to Science.

>IQ
you're never going to make it

Are you me?

Nice one OP

The next step is to go to the fedora store and tip graciously

just keep at it and maybe you can discover something for yourself

to raise your iq, seriously learn a foreign language

sciencemag.org/news/2015/03/speaking-second-language-may-change-how-you-see-world

ideas.ted.com/5-examples-of-how-the-languages-we-speak-can-affect-the-way-we-think/

My grandpa (translator & col. in ffl) always said that for each language you know, you're 1 more man

From my personal experience, teaching myself a new language has definitely improved my ability to think abstractly.

what instrument

You're not smarter; just more cerebral.

Thinking that you're intelligent will increase your mood which increases your productivity and motivation.

That's stupid. What's the distinction??

Op, of course you got smarter by studying. That's why people study.

Intelligence =/= knowledge

Reading to learn increases the knowledge of the material but your problem solving process will remain the same albeit with more reference material to pull from.

I read a differential equations book and it increases my ability to analyze systems, am I smarter? Debateable; I still look at the problem the same way its just now I know how to work in the variables to the equations as was described in the book.

I speak 4 languages and it is a real burden. I'd rather be capable of speaking just 2 languages properly

So I guess the popes must have 170 IQ easily.

I already know 2 languages. I'm thinking of learning German, how do I do that effectively? Duolingo? I am interested in reading German literature

Of course, how else can they talk to God?

>5 months playing an instrument
>good

that's how I know you're someone who just plays yourself up. then your "increased IQ" has allowed you to have this "revelation"

Not really in the same way.
For me, it's usually when I look back at what I've done a year or so ago, and think to myself what a fucking retard I was.

Pic related, took this a year ago from when I started learning DX11 at the end of 2015.

>inb4 go back to /g/

what was it due to?

Duolingo is a good start. You will want to get next to your first ingrained grammar lessons via duolingo a moderate amount of vocabular into your head. Way to go for this would be going the just grind card stacks method (which i dont recommend) or through reading and learning by inference. The just reading texts in another language method would both ingrain the vocabluary with giving you a broader sense of when to use what kind of word and at the same time help you instill the sense of grammar(tho you would ve to write down some words and look stuff up from time to time if you cant interfere a meaning). Another way to get vocabular and grammar together would be to join the site www.lingq.com which doesnt have the problem of the beforehand mentioned technique. There you can build both vocabular and read stuff. Anyway the only way you will learn a language is through using it. So just get the basics down and then join a tandem or something where you speak to others who speak german.

I hope this wasnt all gibberish and that it might ve helped you. Cheers on your journey.

(german literature is shit :) )

>implying God would talk to brainlets

>Has anyone else here had a noticeable increase in (conceptual penis)

i have really struggled with whether and how to respond to this. The execution of this message was very nice and respectful, and I genuinely appreciate that. The premise, however, is problematic. Maybe not inherently, but within the context of the sexist society we live in. Men are allowed, and often feel compelled, to think out loud at women, to share unsolicited not necessarily informed thoughts at women. (And usually these men, unlike you, don’t even seem to recognize that their thoughts may not be useful.) Women on the other hand aren’t allowed to be as open. So, if you want to not just be respectful, but actually be anti-oppression, it is better (IMO) not to respond to a woman’s work with the types of thoughts that other men pawn off as insights, if you know what i mean. again, i appreciate your honesty, but i feel obligated to point these things out.

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>I am better at noticing patterns and making connections, much better than I was at the age of 16. I surprise myself sometimes with my thought processes nowadays, I'm able to notice things that my past self wouldn't have been able to, at least not as quickly. I figure out things much more quickly now, and learning new things seems easier. I have not had an IQ test done before, but I am absolutely certain that I have become smarter.

i know what you mean, becasue i have the same thing. it happened after i took 3 math courses. i don't think my IQ went up, but i have more tools available to me to make sense of arbitrary scenarios, that's the big point of math, right?

its almost like iq has environmental factors

but surely not, because niggers

dont worry I dont think many here know that g exists, or they would have started there and never left. speaking of which, why are you here...we have a containment board for you

>>>g

>Has anyone else here had a noticeable increase in their IQ after doing enough math & science?
Everyone does (or should at least). Repeated pattern solving increases IQ, as that's basically what IQ tests are for, and the more you repeat a task, the better the brain gets at it.

There's limits, of course, but this is why you are only supposed to test IQ on individuals once a year - the drift from testing once a day is often 5-10 IQ points per day (and even with that one year delay, +/-20pts is to be expected). It's also why, for instance, phone switchboard operators used to nearly all get MENSA level IQ scores, even when coming from destitute backgrounds, as will any profession that has you doing number memory and pattern recognition day in and day out. Education in general will radically increase IQ, while the uneducated will always test lower - true even in twin studies.

Granted, that's among the reasons you shouldn't put much weight on IQ tests. They are good for detecting specific learning deficiencies, sometimes over time and over demographics, but otherwise are fairly useless for the individual. There's more comprehensive repetitive tests out there, and even gimmicks like Luminosity are better for working with an individual over time.

Sadly, the only remotely objective biological intelligence test for individuals requires you be dead to be done.

If IQ is that important explain to me why the dude with the highest IQ in my class fails every single course

Wow! It's almost as if the brain is plastic

anyone know of a good iq test I can take online real quick?

>I swear that my IQ has increased.
Nice evidence retard.

It hasn't. You put more stuff into your brain, your brain had more to work with. Your IQ is the part of your brain that does the working-with. You can not increase or decrease it (it is possible to increase the tested result a little because tests are not perfect)

Learning as much different stuff as possible is the best way to become absolutely brilliant at just generally being able to quickly and effectively notice and understand new things.

This is the reason they used to teach people many disciplines and at least maintain some breadth requirements even today.

If you want to become like old school geniuses of antiquity just keep learning a bunch of new stuff constantly from all possible varieties of fields.

Online tests dont mean anything. But you can go to the mensa site and take an online test. Dont read anything into it other than if you do ok, go get tested for real.

Mensa it is, and I know not to take anything personally. Where could I go get tested for real? The college and schools in my town have nowhere near a professional environment.

>Your IQ is the part of your brain that does the working-with. You can not increase or decrease it

>There's some magical unchanging part of the brain dedicated to intelligence.

>Despite the fact that IQ tests regularly vary by +/-40 points on a regular basis, based on such frivolous things such as what you ate that morning, or who gave the test.

I thought IQ was "thinks per second"

isn't it just a measure of how fast you can understand things? or was it how well you can recognise patterns?

Your IQ doesnt change, the tests are not perfect and will score differently this is why we dont consider specific IQs to have meanings but more general IQ ranges when tested.
Yes, temporary things could effect your cognative abilities that specific day, but those are outside effects influencing you overall ability to think that day, not an increase or decrease of the base value of your IQ.

us.mensa.org/join/testing/

For about $40 you can get tested at a center.

If you have psychiatric problems and are still in school, you can get tested for free to determine education placement - which is hopefully not the case, as you might get tested by me. I tend to be one of those folks that makes people nervous, apparently, as I'm among the staff here folks tend to test lower under. Folks tend to score highest when tested by younger women, and worst when tested by older men.

Also make sure you have a lotta carbs in your breakfast, and try to get tested sometime between 10am and noon. Does make rather a huge difference.

Everything you said about yourself pretty much explains why I am avoiding taking the tests offered in my town.

>Your IQ doesnt change
It's very rare you can test the same person a year apart (as is the requirement), and not see the IQ change by lat least 10 points, and +/-30 or even 40 points isn't unusual (institutionally speaking, nothing under a 75pt change is even suspect). I've had three tests myself, ranging from 154 to 176.

The one thing that tends to be consistent is that subjects tend to score lowest in the same areas. If you have difficulty with a particular type of analysis or memory, you will probably always have trouble in that area, similarly with areas in which you accel. This is thus the one true value IQ tests have on an individual level.

Whether your actual intelligence changes is another question, but your IQ test performance changes pretty radically on a regular basis. It doesn't test any model of performance that's particularly static.

>but your IQ test performance changes
Ive already addressed that with two points.

By admitting outside effects can influence your entire cognitive ability at any given time (which i do not see as a change in your IQ as the same effects can make it harder for you to simply recall something you memorized earlier that day, which has nothing to do with IQ).

By pointing out that tests arent perfect and change. By the nature of an IQ test you cant test the same person with the same test twice, if you could then this might not be as much a variable, but each test or new iteration of a test is going to be weighing different areas differently.

The result is that IQ scores can change, and indeed you can practice to get temporarily better at 'taking IQ tests', but this does not actually influence your IQ. The test themselves are trying to glimpse something under several layers of other mental functions.

I've never heard the term IQ used in reference to anything but the results of IQ tests. If one is referring to actual intelligence, one simply says "intelligence".

It may be that actual intelligence varies less than IQ test results. However, so far as I know, there is no way to objectively test that, save on the dead, and even then, you're only making comparisons between slices of brains of those who are known to be gifted and those who are not, usually using the IQ tests as the basis of separation. So it's entirely supposition at this point.

IQ performance changes, both often and radically. Intelligence, maybe, maybe not, but there's no good way to tell.

>something you memorized earlier that day, which has nothing to do with IQ
Memorization is part of the test... You've never actually taken an off line IQ test, have you.

Repeating any task at roat, even tasks you are poor at, will cause the brain to improve at those tasks over time, and this has an effect on similar tasks. If you spend all day, for instance, playing varied online games consisting of visual puzzles, your spatial IQ test scores will indeed increase (as will your performance in similar games). It's not simply a matter of memorizing the test, it's a matter of wiring one's self towards a specific skill set.

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It has been proved that playing an instrument and having a healty eating routine are related to IQ raise. This and the fact that your brain reaches full developpement in your 20's, you might have been mistaking causes for consequences. As for the pattern recognition, well if you didn't improve this skill while learning maths, you were definitly doing it wrong.

Another thing I'd like to say, which is not totally related to you question but man I love to butthurt the "MUH SCI IQ" fags, is that a wide array of IQ test questions are based on logic. Studying in STEM requires studying some maths, which leads you to have at least one course on logic, if you didn't sleep during these classes you'll have learn formal techniques to solve logic-based problems, therefore you may improve your IQ score. But is your IQ really higher than it was ?

Hey! Let's call it "neuroplasticity" because it's like brain plastic! Wowwow!

Pseudoscience shouldn't be allowed here

You shouldn't use IQ as a means of quantifying your own intelligence. That's something that you should have realised.

Books and information can make you think that you're smarter but only until you apply these principles is when you'll start to see a difference.

If you want my advice, you shouldn't think of yourself as 'smarter' than anyone else because at the end of the day we all have the same potential as anyone else, we're all just a mass of cells and chemicals. We also have the added benefit of being the only species on the planet able to make rational decisions.

Keep learning, keep being curious and keep being healthy. These words may seem cliché by now however if you want to truly be happy then that's the way to go. Don't think of yourself as "smarter" or don't go out actively flaunting your intelligence because that won't make anyone like you. Even if you subconciously think that you're the smartest person in the room, you shouldn't, otherwise you'll make decisions based on your subconcious feelings (is there a word for this?).

Stay healthy, curious and keep learning.

I dunno, I'm not really sure what board I like to stay on. I used to be on /b/ a lot, but it's mostly porn nowadays.

Tried /g/, but you can barely have a discussion before everyone starts deviating from the topic; arguing what language is superior.

Veeky Forums is pretty neat, but everyone speaks as if everything they say is absolute fact. And there's a lot of people who like to exercise their superiority complex.

You haven't raised your "biological" or "actual" IQ.
Imagine stretching stiff muscles, you haven't actually increased your flexibility (semantics).
Maybe a bad allegory...

Your brain was lazy, untrained, stiff and weak.
You've just exercised it and reached it's natural ability.

Elaborate

IQ basically measures your brain's ability to solve puzzles. Playing puzzle games everyday will increase your IQ.

The untold is forgotten.

No it won't.
IQ is how fast you can't solve abstractions.
Getting good at one form of abstraction doesn't help in other.
Like how you can have insane verbal IQ and speak many languages and be a god at puns and charm, but can't add middle school math in head.

can solve*
rip

Elaborate

It's more about what interests you and how much time and effort you're willing to put into it.

Someone with a high IQ (most of them) aren't that social, complete assholes most of the times, they have analytical skills but i.e. on an issue they are keen on defending yet wrong on a person with a lesser IQ but more open to more variables can in the end show them the light.

it's about dicipline, will and character more often than about IQ.

Only sensible user in this whole thread

>You're not smarter; just more cerebral.
> just more cerebral.
>more cerebral.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>Much better than I was at the age of 16

You do realize 16 year old brains are undeveloped brains, right?

Nice bait.

Killing

It's hard to keep up with 4 languages.

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