Give me some recommendations on books that portray war as hell, like diaries from the soldiers point of view
War is hell
Game of thrones a feast for crows
I'd prefer real work stuff, WW1 and 2 would be perfect
All Quiet on the Western Front
Catch-22
WWI poetry
The Things They Carried, or anything by Tim O'brien for that matter.
...I've just realised that I'm not aware of any notable poetry from WWII. Why is that? Is it due to the decline in popularity of poetry as an artform?
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>like diaries from the soldiers point of view
Storm of Steel. Pretty sure he doesn't say 'war is hell', though, which arguably is more interesting since people aren't generally fans of war.
The real redpill is when you realize that war is heaven.
WAR.
UNH.
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY.
EVERYTHING.
No, it's coz anglos didn't suffer all that much: simonov.co.uk
goodreads.com
This one, for sure.
BETA POWER FANTASIES!
out of my way you fucking plebeians
Not directly about war, but about it's psychological effects. Worth a read imo
Fear by Gabriel Chevielier (spelling is absolutely wrong). Great WWI story/memoir.
The Red Calvary by Isaac Babel
The White Guard by Bulgakov. These two combined are a great view of both sides of the 1918 bolshevik war.
The Tim o'brien recommendation is good as well.
Journey to the Center of Night by Celine also has some great War stuff, mostly in the first 1/3 though.
Can this be read as my first Zola book, or does it depend on some of his other work? I'd like to get into Zola
>The Red Calvary
Best misspelling of the millenium
Eugene Sledge's With The Old Breed is exactly what you're looking for. Those Japs were fucking brutal.
Otto Dix created the best war art I've ever seen, Wikipedia has most of his work.
This, I read this in High School and it fucked me up for a bit.
One more
The debacle can be read separately, just like all of the others. One of the characters is from The Earth. They are all self contained stories with an overarching theme of atavism.
Farewell to Arms.
Gert Ledig
- The Stalin Front
- Payback
David Jones
-In Parenthesis
Curzio Malaparte
- Kaputt
Celine
-Castle to Castle
- North
Ford Maddox Ford
-Parade's End
Edmund Blunden
-Undertones of War
It was the war of the trenches, by Tardi
Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien
Check out Keith Douglas.
>translation
GOOD GOD, Y'ALL
900 Days Siege of Leningrad
YEA-ABSOLUTELY
Underrated, from the author of War What is Good For.
For whome the bell tolls - Hemingway
If you can read french you should try Les mémoires du sergent Bourgogne, the real story of a french sergent during the russian campaign of napoleon, unbelievable what soldiers can endure
War is actually boring.
Storm of Steel- Juenger
Hell in the Pacific-- McEnery
Red Badge of Courage-- Crane
Iron Coffins
Red Star under the Baltic--Korzh
Penalty Strike-- Pyc'lyn
800 days on the Eastern Front-- Litvin
T-34 in action-- Drabkin
Anti-tank artillery-- drabkin
Through the Maelstrom-- Gorbachevsky (I'm currently reading)
To Hell and Back-- Murphy
Off the top of my head, most of these are within my library of war.
Is this available in English or is it Suomi only?
>Storm of Steel- Juenger
That's not really "war is hell" core
The Unwomanly Face of the War - Svetlana Alexievich
Zinky boys - Sveltana Alexivich
The armies - Evelio Rosero
you mean reading about war is boring. if you were ever dragooned into the military and had fucking artillery fired at you, i am sure you would change your mind in the ten seconds or so before your head was turned into flying gobbets of bloody mush and bone splinters.
war books, okay:
First World War, "Goodbye To All That" by Robert Graves
Vietnam: Dispatches by Michael Herr
Fucking plebs
T.E. Lawrence, Seven Pillars of Wisdom
That's about roughly 1% of war. For the average soldier war is extremely boring.
Johnny got his gun -Dalton Trumbo
True, but it was the first thing it came to my mind.
Johnny Got his Gun by Dalton Trumbo is a narrative of a soldier who loses all his limbs in WW1 and it's really, dark and haunting. you'll like it.
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top fucking kek
storm of steel, ernst junger
OP says "war is hell" and not just "war"
He did not think that war was hell.
are there many pre-modern "war is hell" esq books Veeky Forums? before ww1 or the american civil war?
basically before war became industrialized
Fair enough. It just seems like such a quintessential "war" book is all
"All Quiet on the Western Front" changed it all for me
Tolstoy didn't participate in the Siege of Sevastopol though.
Before war became industrialized, being a warrior was so fucking cool that nobody cared about "hell". Only sissy boyz of new age think war is "hell"
A Memory of Solferino by Henry Dunant.
This
Matterhorn: A Novel of the Vietnam War
Semi nonfiction about author's experience in Vietnam.
This is not correct at all.
I can't tell if you're memeing or not. Either way OP ignore this guy Farewell to Arms doesn't portray war anywhere near hell. Sure he gets hit by artillery but and is bedridden but that's never portrayed as too bad and the book never dives in to how the incident effected his psyche and a lot of the book is a love story that takes place away from the war
Going After Cacciato by Tim O'brien
I saw that other anons recommended O'brien and Inreally want to echo this sentiment. He does a good job illustrating the boredom of war punctuated by moments of sheer violent terror, which in turn makes the boredom surreal and frightening in its own right because the soldiers are just waiting for death.
The Sorrow of War by Bao Ninh. It's very interesting to read a book about Vietnam from the perspective of the NVA. Interesting to see that even they were disillusioned with the war and ultimately their experiences were very similar to that of the Americans, except that they never get to leave the warzone and go home...the warzone is their home.