Non-science guy here

ill chime in despite having just joined the thread. unfortunately any type of "observation" requires some form of material interacting with the observed particle. and since these particles are so tiny even things like photons have an affect on their behavior. like when you see things with your eyes its because photons are bouncing off of that object into your eyes so really there is no way to detect particle and observe them without interfering in some way.

Shouldn't this mean that there are no particles that are in wave-form? I mean, there is nowhere in the universe without fields. Shouldn't all particles be interacting with these fields at all times, meaning their wave functions would always be collapsing?

So just observing it makes it interact differently, and we have no idea what it is about our observation that makes it act differently. Yet you know for a fact that the particles don't "care" whether we look at them?

But from a laymans point of view, or my retarded normie point of view, that's exactly what happens. If that's not what happens, then I'd need to know exactly why it is the particles act differently.

The multi-verse theory sounds viable to me at this point man.

you seem to think that physicists just sit around coming up with ideas in a coffee shop. physics starts with an experiment and carful observation of the results, "theories" are the scientists trying to understand the results and make predictions as to other experiments. the double slit experiment, wave particle duaity, and the inability to dirrectly observe a ssubatmic particle are all real world problems.

How would they care? By the time we see the results from a camera, the particle has already hit the screen.

>we have no idea what it is about our observation that makes it act differently.
No, we know exactly what it is. Quantum objects are so small that all our instruments affect them.

Imagine trying to locate a billiard ball by hitting it with another billiard ball. You'll know right where it was, but you've got no real idea where it is now.

>How would they care?

I have no clue whatsoever because I don't know anything at all.

>No, we know exactly what it is. Quantum objects are so small that all our instruments affect them.

Oh yeah? How do we know that?

meant for But I mean, how do you know that? Maybe if the multi-verse theory is true and it's a probability wave, that means we're in a reality where the instruments don't actually affect the particles enough to make them change, and they are just changing into particle form when we observe them out of pure chance in our reality.

truth! even bouncing a photon off an electron would change it.

>Oh yeah? How do we know that?
Occam's razor.