I am dead inside. What should I read to change this?
Nietzsche, Camus, and Dostoyevsky have both failed to do the trick. I see poetry in their words, but they kindle nothing beyond aesthetic appreciation for their ideas, no fire, no change.
Listen to some animal collective and beach boys and drop some acid and you'll be born again into the world as a child
Brody Bailey
don't do this it will only make you more depressed
listen to something good on acid, like Black Foliage animation music
Mason Morales
Clinically depressed man away from meds. But the advice is legit.
Grayson Wood
aristotle, seneca, plato. Embrace virtues at all cost >Black Foliage animation music also this
Alexander Taylor
start with the greeks
not even memeing
life for the greeks was dionysian life, where the gods were many and were real, like many ancient cultures that predated them. yet it was tempered by apollonian tendencies that enshrined it into history in a manner that renders their life intelligible to us. many mistake the finger for the moon and only focus on the apollonian and what is intelligible and plato/socrates/seneca which is a mistake.
>what should i read
is already a sign that you're on the wrong path, like many who devour "self-help" books to procrastinate actually "improving" themselves.
one does not learn, but is initiated.
Liam Harris
Hate to break it to you, kiddo, but aesthetic appreciation is all that really matters—or at least, it is so much more important than all else that it dwarfs every other aspect of life—they drop out, as when one raises the variable of a polynomial to infinity: the one thing, the one value, alone remains. Orwell, in an essay on a pamphlet by Tolstoy that I have not read, said that the humanist spirit was (something along the lines of) that attitude that says human life is worth all the pain and ennui in the end, even though that pain and ennui should overcome the pleasure. The beautiful, having as it does a touch of pain in it, is all that one can hope for, and that is more than enough, and it is more than sufficient that you can see the poetry in those words. The poetic is the most real, anyways.
Carter Stewart
why do you want to change it?
Mason Robinson
the poetic isn't the most real, it's what inspires the poetry itself. it's the muse. the pain and anxiety disappears when one surrenders oneself to divine inspiration, rather than engaging in a sublimated form of masochism.
Tyler Torres
I'm bored, and the only I do feel is a bleary sense of loss.
Carter Moore
Elle is bae
Joseph Allen
only thing*
Jordan Gonzalez
but why do you want to change it?, do you loss something?. go with it and the sadness within.
Ryder Cruz
is 50/50 tbqh it can push you out of the spiral, but adjusting to real life is where it goes 10 times worse or actually makes you better I've experienced both, lel
Jose Brooks
also this dont be retarded like DFW and DONT TOUCH SSRI
Lucas Turner
Elle will never be your gf, might as well end it all. Wanna do a suicide pact?
Carson Jenkins
>you will never run your tongue over her dorky buck teeth and comment on them and make her all flustered and self-conscious while you say it's ok and it's cute while she pouts at the impression that she's unironically being teased
Brody Martin
C O U N T O U N T L E O E O T O L S T O Y O L S T O Y
Isaiah Hill
...
Joseph Parker
Grow up
Colton White
yo stop
Chase Phillips
Become more emotionally mature
Joseph Hall
an emotional mature person can´t feel like shit?. you fall for a meme.
Landon Davis
>an emotional mature person can´t feel like shit?. Of course. However, feeling like shit is one thing. Proclaiming to be dead inside while drooling over pictures of cute women on the internet is another. >you fall for a meme Your opinion goes in the trash.
William Johnson
you misguided an emotional mature person with being articulated enough to express your emotions in a mature way.
emotionally mature is a meme altough i know is a shit word and concept. social construct is not better. emotionally mature is an idol.
Leo Mitchell
Fear and Trembling by the Kierk.
Brayden White
>emotionally mature is a meme It really isn't though. If your argument is that it's not possible to mature emotionally then look at the way you would deal with your emotions when you were a child. Compare that to the way you deal with your emotions nowadays. I am sure you would agree you have become more mature in the way you deal with your emotions. >i know is a shit word and concept Stop using it then.
James Barnes
being emotionally mature is not a better thing. if you have to make the separation between a child and an adult to make me understandable what is "emotional matureness", talk more about the low trust you have in the concept.
Leo Harris
>giving a clear and obvious example means you have low trust in a concept Is this a joke?
Joseph Wilson
reducing transcendent concepts to mere "emotion" is a sign of emotional immaturity
Jordan Thomas
Surely these transcendent concepts you bring up are part of the way you deal with emotions i.e. part of your emotional maturity
Samuel Lewis
" by "emotional maturity" i believe you mean that one deals with emotions, but by transcending it it is the opposite. one refuses to be ruled by emotions when one becomes "mature". so "emotional maturity" would be an oxymoron, and your use of the concept is nonsensical.
you don't call someone who has transcended their compulsive stealing "kleptomanically mature"
Jack Taylor
lmao at these cucks
Aiden Turner
Jordan Peterson's Maps of Meaning. It will change your life. Alternatively watch his youtube lectures
They're free, dude used to teach at Harvard, it's worth your time. It's basically one giant deontological reassurance that btfo of nihilism.
Matthew Fisher
Interesting, I see your point. >cuck detected
Leo Lee
This shit is the reason most NEETs get depressed. Stop living in your fantasies. If you want to read something, read something dry and real. Suttree maybe
Jack Mitchell
I want to floss her teeth.
Levi Evans
black foliage but not animal collective or beach boys??
animal collective + beach boys (+mayb some mecury rev) = black foliage
Liam Ward
IJ gets better after that scene with the school director or some shit?
Joshua Cook
>Jordan Memerson
Christian Turner
Read Confederacy of Dunces. It'll cheer you up. No one in that book is happy until the end, where nothing really happen. Very similar to real life. Perks of Being a Wallflower was another book that really picked me up when I was feeling depressed. You'll pick up something, maybe that you're just bound to be unhappy and have to happy with it. Good luck.
Adrian Wright
Don't do drugs
Isaiah Lewis
>Nietzsche, Camus, and Dostoyevsky have both failed
Ian Lee
Let Us Now Praise Famous Men
Christian Allen
Read the Communist Manifesto, and give your life greater purpose.
Caleb Hill
You have to find meaning for yourself. You can't expect someone else to give it to you.
All I can do to help.
Josiah Long
Chesterton
Nicholas Morgan
Honestly? Go read Nick Land.
I'm semi-serious about this, tbqh. Maybe people need a stronger dose these days to appreciate things. Read Meltdown and think about viral alien capitalism propagating through you. There's no reason that couldn't be the case. What if all that stuff were true? That's liberating. In a horrible way. But definitely liberating.
The fact that you have an I at all which feels dead suggests that perhaps you haven't looked deeply enough at stuff. Having an I and an ego that thinks, feels pain, is capable of making legal decisions, articulating sentences, or painting a fucking picture of your cat to give to your mother for Mother's Day are actually all more valuable and interesting than feeling dead inside. Go get dissolved in schizoanalysis. Try to look at things the way that Nick Land did. Stand in that hellscape for a while. Normal life might not seem so bad afterwards.
Rediscovering humanity isn't a bad thing. It's just that we take it for granted. Life is pain and suffering, but it's other stuff too. If existentialism isn't working, try Landian schizoanalysis. It has no cures and is itself probably just another meme, but what the fuck.
The other, and far saner, option is pic related. More the guy on the right than the guy on the left.
Sebastian Powell
>Nietzsche, Camus, and Dostoyevsky have both wut
nice
only read the intro
Evan Brooks
Eventually something really shitty is going to happen to you and you will realize how nice these days were.
Luis Robinson
IJ makes that feeling worse.
Owen Ortiz
well that'll sure cheer him up
Christian Campbell
Hermann Hesse
Luis Hall
>t. tranny tranneryson
Elijah Ramirez
You probably didn't get them. Name every book you read and describe what you've learned in at least 3 sentences each
Logan Hughes
>those shoulders
She looks like a trap
Camden Bell
he is so fucking shit worst tier
Ayden Ross
Read The Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius
Changed my life.
Luis Anderson
Infinite Jest. It unironically changed my life the way you are describing. Also don't do drugs. Ever.
Asher Jackson
what's wrong with weed and psychedelics?
Lincoln Ortiz
>tfw did drugs
never been the same
Ryan Fisher
The gospel of Matthew
Oliver Carter
Emil Cioran
Jace Clark
Start watching Gianna Michaels porn. Yes she is fat and busted, but she makes the world seem better. Also listen to happy music. Someone beofre me mentioned beach boys. Lower your standards. Try more. Do things are are "below" your intellect.
Julian Cruz
her tits are saggy and her face is atrocious
Cameron Moore
Go to church, faggot
Christian Cox
Jerk off to her exclusively for a month and come back.
Nolan Barnes
I've done it but I regret it every time.
Jace Gray
you are eternal , and your tiered go to sleep.
Aaron Bailey
Because it fucks you up even more if you're already fucked up.
t. ex drug user
Carson Nguyen
weird, psychedelics are reported to have pretty powerful anti-depressant effects, either post-trip for a few days or when micro-dosing.
Eli Sullivan
That is living, my dude.
Matthew Reed
1/Read the Dao De Jing 2/Compare all available translations 3/???? 4/Profit
Ryan Barnes
Heideigger, Wittgenstein, Joyce and Pynchon. Thats your to do list.
Adrian Stewart
Tracing my intellectual and 'spiritual' development desu.
Asher Phillips
Meant for
Daniel Jenkins
Came to post this.
Oliver Johnson
...
Aaron White
you sound like a pretentious prick who doesn't even read properly. You should probably just kill yourself- then you can be dead on the outside too
Tyler Ward
Nothing for it but to order a pack of oestrogen and cut off your dick, OP.
Evan Howard
Good man. Poetry and prose in tandem to describe Goodness? Awesome choice.
Oliver Bennett
go for a run and get into a fight.
Nicholas Adams
They're also reported to have terrible effects like activating schizophrenia and panicking for 12 hours. It can go either direction but the best I've ever personally see drugs do is that they numb or distract from the pain temporarily, not a long term solution
Christopher Nelson
>implying LSD is in any way addictive or dangerous
I've done it several times and it changed my life (not that my life was bad or anything to begin with).
Opens up your mind and lets you scrutinise your self (sic).
Some people might not like what they see, though.
Evan Cox
animal collective feels pretty different from olivia tremor control. maybe just their early stuff is sorta similar but whatever, this is a lit board! good taste though
Evan Brown
>tfw waiting for life to get bad enough that I finally have the motivation to improve is there no way to cut out the middleman?
the listlessness I currently occupy is full of anxiousness and nothing more
Hudson Baker
what drugs?
Matthew Torres
Kierkegaard
its all you need t.b.h.
Jayden Martin
what is this foliage crap? why is it so fucking chaotic? is this necessary?
Brayden Lopez
I don't think a book is what you need, OP. If you're dead inside you need to change how you're living, not what you're reading. If someone said "read the Bible" I'd say "go to mass," if someone said "read about X" I'd say "go do X." Man isn't meant to live exclusively in his head.
Best wishes to ya!
James Morris
I injected 50cc of dank maymays.
DON'T do MEMES kids, they will RUIN your LIFE!
Zachary Price
If you're dead inside you should read a comedy like Don Quixote or Candide or something.
Gavin Carter
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Xavier Ortiz
Tips from someone in the same situation.
1 don't do drugs. If you smoke weed it can mess with dopamine receptors. Look it up if you don't take my word on it. Also the first week after stopping is filled with feels and awesome dreams.
2 don't masturbate. read up on this as well. There is a lot to it that really messes with your ability to enjoy life.
3 don't think in the past so much. When you are happy you are in the moment. There are endless things to consider and worry about. Only so much that is helpful until it gets in your way. Try meditation, but don't fall for new age bullshit.
4 drink lots of water and eat as healthily as you can. Serotonin is 80% about telling you how hungry you are. This is phrased awfully and is excessively simplified, but I'm tired and the point is pretty much the same. If you don't eat right, you will be pissed off by it more consistently than almost anything else. Same with sleep.
5 if you really want to feel better read feeling good by that one cognitive behavioral therapist that's name starts with a "B". Your thoughts influence your emotions, so if your a pessimistic neurotic sad sap who thinks in black and white, you will feel awful.
Alexander Edwards
You can't read your way out of suffering. Everyone is trying to describe things that are perhaps indescribable using a fundamentally flawed medium. Everything that is conveyed to you is just an abstraction, symbol, and a reflection of experience. The less mental proliferations you indulge in the better. When you do chose to take up symbols and abstractions make sure they are symbols and abstractions that point to experience.
Basically go meditate, and stop worrying so much faggot.
Grayson Jones
best post full of simple wisdom
sadness is natural, nature cannot be wholly conquered
laugh and you will feel better, for whatever time is afforded you to feel better
Bentley Williams
fernando pessoa
Aiden Sanchez
I don't know why you think reading is the answer. In fact, it's probably the worst thing you can do.
You know what happens to depressed people who try to read? They either get more depressed, or they develop an unsubstantiated ego and warp their depression into some megalomania trip, sometimes becoming one of the many shit pseud writers out there today, or just going on to be a worthless faggot elsewhere.
The answer to your depression is life itself. You have to start living differently. Reading is idleness, it's practically anti-life.