Engineering Tiers

Enjoy field work, hazardous work, working with carcinogenic substances, working in subbar conditions, working with old dangerous hardware and lots of other countless annoyances. Enjoy being treated like a disposable technician that has to perform work close to miracles and being charged next to nothing for all the pain and hard years, and enjoy being in permanent competition with China and India for the rest of your career unless you succeed in your specialisation gamble and manage to stay relevant for more than 5+ years.

Can we just torture to death all non-math majors already? Or at least make math captchas to eliminate threads like these?

>Chemical Eng. top tier
Wait really? since when?

I disagree with your image my dude
Nirvana Tier:
>Physics
>Mathematics
God Tier:
>Materials Engineering
>Engineering Physics
>Electrical Engineering
>Nuclear Engineering
Great Tier:
>Chemical Engineering
>Biochemical Engineering
>Applied Statistics
>Aeronautical Engineering
Great Tier; Chad edition:
>Mechanical Engineering
Good Tier:
>Mining Engineering
>Geophysical Engineering
>Environmental Engineering (I have Zen bias)
Whatever Tier
>Petroleum Engineering
>Civil Engineering
>Computer Science and/or Engineering
>Humanities Engineering

>Chemical "20 thousand jobs" engineering
>Electrical "NEGATIVE JOB GROWTH" engineering
>top of the list
fucking lmao
bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/mobile/chemical-engineers.htm
bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/mobile/electrical-and-electronics-engineers.htm

They are literally the two worst non-meme engineering fields. Chemical is worse, though. No jobs, and the few that are force you to relocate to absolute shitholes.

Veeky Forums loves to meme on them, but Mechanical and Civil are by far the most versatile, the latter which pretty much GUARANTEES you a job. Undergrad civil engieering is a such a braindead major, though. Here's the run-down for undergrads from an engineer: You want money? Go CS or Computer Engineering. Petroleum is a meme. You want stability? Go mechanical. You want recruiters sucking your cock if you have above a 3.0? Go civil. Do you enjoy the sight of another man stealing your girlfriend right before your eyes, and want to emulate that with job searching? Go biomedical.

>tfw my ChemEng department is called Chemical and Environmental Engineering
They offer both majors separately, but it's kind of troubling. Am I fucked, lads?

Jealousy & Butt Hurt is strong with this one.

>being charged next to nothing.

Math PhD $101,000 Mid-career pay
EE BSc $110000 Mid-career pay
>www.payscale.com/college-salary-report

career wise, software engineering seems to be uncontested in every aspect.

>being a secondrate CE

>Do you enjoy the sight of another man stealing your girlfriend right before your eyes, and want to emulate that with job searching? Go biomedical.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I didn't realize biomedical engineering was shit.
God damnit and to think I finally figured out what I wanted to do with my life

>Condensed Matter Physics

Just go straight into solid state and whore yourself out to semiconductor industry. holy fuck those people make so much money.

>Do you enjoy the sight of another man stealing your girlfriend right before your eyes, and want to emulate that with job searching? Go biomedical.

kek, i don't get it nigger

How much

what's this based on, employment, salary or importance?

also how is chemical engineering good for any of these things?

>nuclear engineering
>God-tier
good luck getting a job

This for grad school maybe, but for just undergrad then op image is alright

This is helpful. I can take Ceramics and Electronics Materials Track for my major so I think I can make that work. What higher physics classes will I have to take to make the cut? I'm saying this because engineers are a bit shy of higher physics knowledge sadly.

CompEng here aiming for an EE MSc. Feels good to be the master race.

>tfw med engi
>tfw already share courses with computer scientists and EEfags

Atleast I am not as retarded as those guys in the social department and actually know something about medicine.

EECS MASTER RACE!!!!! REEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

I won't lie, it'll be tougher to find a job, but in 15 years time, it'll be fairly stable

What's bad about environmental engineering? I was interested in it since I have an environmental science BS.

Biomedical engineering positions will hire EEs and CEs and MEs over your special snowflake BME

Actual chemical is the best but not for simply working as chemical engineer

It's the most flexible degree since you're basically required to take all courses in

>math
>physics
>chemistry
>biology
>programming
>material science
>general engineering

If you can't get a job as a chemical engineer then you're welcome in many other fields. Just look at any most job listings, a lot of them list Chem engineering as an acceptable degree.

Even stuff such as the financial sector, medical industry, programming industries, and engineering industries

Whats wrong with civil engineering? Is it the brainlet engineering? That's basically what my entire family is studying.

Most retarded and inaccurate description of EE I have ever read on even this stupid ass website. Be proud.

At my school the degree is ECE so even if the whole electrical thing doesn't work out I can go into CE stuff.

What is wrong with engineering physics?

Meme degree. I wish this wasn't the case too, because it has a lot of worthwhile and interesting content. But it doesn't look as attractive to employers.

This.
Chemical engineer is great all around, and can easily understand and deal with problems of the other engineerings.
Feels good.

And why is materials engineering twice on the list?
And I would change Aerospace with Genetic.

Not really brainlet by definition. But it's a pretty specific engineering, and there are negative stereotypes of the Civil engineers. As you know, a contractor with a diploma.

Too late for me. I'm already in the final semesters of the career.

What can I expect? Should I go to a grad school to wash my meme degree?

Go on indeed.com and other job hunting sites and look for jobs that you will qualify for. Use that to make a decision.

Certainly the most normie engineering degree.

it's a jack of all trades degree that doesn't have as much demand as it did and as others do like EE and ME.

>EE
>demand

Wat m8. It has a negative job growth and EE is going to get outsourced or automated soon

>EE
>automated
You're stupid. Put on a trip so I can filter you.

I switched from turd pushing to anal caving major myself

>software engineer
>good tier

>social engineering

>tfw molecular biology major
Will probably try to go to med school or an hero myself desu

Sorry to break it to you, but medicine is a meme and has been for a long time. It'd be worth it if the process to become a doctor isn't as soul crushing as a lifetime of wageslaving.

For the first few years, you'll get a bachelors and probably will be stuck with a bunch of retarded premeds that you're going to compete with to get into med school. Hanging around retards is bad since you have nobody to talk to aside from mentally unstable people who've been helicoptered by their parents into getting an MD. Hanging around people as smart as you is bad because of competition. Pre-med competitive antics are annoying as fuck, like when they sabotage each others labs and grades. You'll have to study for a host of test like the MCAT and get recommendation letters from everyone you know and worry about leadership and extracurriculars and showing passion for the poor. Good luck with writing an essay that isn't cliche'd. In the end, most of you won't even get in.

If you made it in, congratulations, you have 4 more years of memorizing ass. Done? OK just do some residency for 3 to 7 years depending on how retarded you are. Then congrats you are officially a doctor at 30 years old. And you have a fuckton of debt.

Now during your practice you realize you live in a country where people like to fuck you over by suing you for retarded shit. So half your salary goes to legal expenses. Let's not forget Obama trying to fuck you over as well. Whatever money you make, you won't get time to spend it since your constantly on call and have to wake up at 2 am to save someone's dick. Want to have fun? Sorry, you're bound by medical ethics and shit that essentially means you can't even talk to your patients like a normal fucking human being.

So essentially the system is set up so you can't be a doctor if you want money and stability. You must legitimately hate yourself and/or have a messiah complex, and if you don't already have a gaping anus, you'll get one.

>God teir
>petroleum engineering

Petroleum engineering isn't even engineering. They're maybe highly specialized technicians but nothing more.

>highly specialized technicians
Aka the most paid STEM field.

Petroleum Engineering BSc
$96700 starting $172000 mid career pay

Mathematics PhD
$85700 starting $101000 mid career pay

Are You Mad Meth Boi? Meth Boi can not even compete!

>Source: www.payscale.com

Petroleum engineering is a stubbornly persistent meme

i started at 85k$ base salary with another 15k$ available in bonuses with just a bachelors in engineering. the PhD's i work with are clearing 200k$ to 225k$

What do you study? Materials,EE..?

Mech E. graduated with a whopping 3.0 GPA

where do you work in semiconductor industry? im getting PHD in ECE soon and wanna make a lot of money. seems like most companies would pay me like 90k to 110k (not like thats much in most tech cities anyway)

>90k to 110k
>not like thats much
Buddy you need to take a step back and appreciate what you have in life.

Do you know this from personal experience?

>What's bad about environmental engineering?

Shitty Low Pay, Job prospects & Low Demand. So Don't fall for the "Profession of Future" Memes.

Extremely Easy Math Requirements that makes Math Majors cringe, much easier than CS, at same tier as Biology & Business.

Sewers / Sewage / Wastewater & Waste management are Literally Shitty Specializations of it, which you will literally deal with Shit in your daily job

>different tiers of engineering
It's like arguing about who's the strongest in kindergarten.

Maybe I should stick to my plan of either horticulture/plant science or water quality management (mostly lake testing, limnology).

EECS MasterRace

EE is said to have 0% Core job growth
However EE can work in any Computer Related Jobs from Hardware to Software

Computer Jobs will have a Huge Growth next years & pay much more than Math.
"Autistic Math Majors are Screeching*

You can also steal Biomedical Engineering Jobs →

If you specialize in Controls/Robotics/ Automation you will able to do Mechanical Engineering type Jobs

And if you can also specialize in Physics for MicroElectronic / Semiconductor Industry.
& be able to jump to Applied Physics PhD in Graduate School in fields as Condensate matter/ Soild Physics, Nanotechnology, Optics/Photonics, Quantum Computation & Quantum / Electromagnetic Field Theory.

or do Graduate Research in Applied Math (Graduate Level Control Engineering is a very Mathematical Field)

& Graduate Research in Artificial Intelligence using Math & Computer Science Skills with concepts from Neurology.

Engineering fucking sucks dude. Software Engineering is the only cool engineering. Everything else sucks dick and isn't worth the money at all.

I took your guys' advice and chose mechanical instead of aerospace. Currently a freshman
Gib advice on how to maximise career gainz

>engineer
>money
@lmaoing at you

Money is in med,MBAs and CS. Software engineering is second rate CS anyways

t. pure Meth addict

>all engineering is software engineering

I know. I'm saying that people here who oogle at the money don't realize that engineer jobs FUCKING SUCK outside of SE and are absolutely not worth the money.

Pls respond

Mechanical Engineering is the most versatile engineering field. You can jump ship to other fields very easily because mech is the back bone to them all. Also with Mech you can become a Petroleum Engineer, the highest paid engineer around, probably the higest paid STEM job around.

I had been thinking to get a job on an oil rig or in the oil sector in the beginning to get the experience and good pay then shift since those should carry over too. Not in it just for the money tho. I like aero stuff too so will get a master's later

>contractor with a diploma

boi you don't know what civil is and you need to stop talking like you do

WAKE UP SON

YES!
I highly recommend incoming freshmen to NOT take STEM.

>incoming freshmen

HA!

>2017
>paying for an education

Ur a cog in the machine
WAKE UP SON

>2017
>getting an education

Enjoy the brainwashing, buddy.

FTFY

>too dumb for STEM
>teacher

Ok

>biomedical engineering
>shit tier

Pic related. Also, explain.

>tfw I'm in too meme too even be in a meme chart
Feels mechatronics man
Going to switch to EE though

Medical devices jobs go to EEs
Medical machine jobs go to MechEs
Medical production jobs go to ChemEs

Why hire someone who only took watered down versions of the above?

Are you Mexican?My cousin in Mexico is studying that.
From what I saw its not too popular in the US

high school teachers in europe maybe

very small industry for biomedical engineers thus very competitive. the pay is also on the lower end as far as engineering goes. i would say it's the engineering major that requires grad school the most, which kind of defeats the purpose of getting an engineering degree. the ones that get squeezed out of industry go get a masters or work in consultation.

No 100% arian europoor
At my university mechatronics is actually more popular than EE, but then again it's not offered at many unis

Oh hey I have a slightly related question. If my degree requires I take a year of a second language, should I do spanish or chinese?

Chinese.

>biomedical
>low pay
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they have the most overinflated salary out of all the engineers (besides petroleum) in america
the only issue is that most people working in biomedical are ME/EE not biomemeical engiqueers

when you're rich do you want to be able to communicate with your house service?
or do you want to learn chinese and gain access to an actual scientific database and use this to become rich enough that you can speak to your house service in english?

why is biomolecular engineering so low?

Biomolecular engineers and genetic engineers can largely get a lot of the same jobs, or at least the demand for both are tightly linked.

Consider going to a real school

Chinese. Why?

Hispanics will fuck up your designs accidentally.

Chinese will fuck up your design on purpose, and pretend like they didn't understand your english.

No engineering program requires this unless this is a shit school. Engineering has way too many classes for it to require a 2nd language. In fact in my school because Engineering is so STEM heavy with the other sciences as requirements it's the only degree program that does not need a 2nd language. Even pure math fags need to take a 2nd language as a requirement.

Why would you make tiers for different flavors of shit?

not in canada and certainly not in the united states. maybe you're referring to a south american country that i don't know the statistics of?

Last recession businessmen and lawyers had to stoop to uber and pizza delivery for employment.

>college orientatin
>biomed is filled with women who barely scraped through high school
>electrical is literally me and another asian kid who came with two laptops in his backpack
feels good

Biomedical is so popular at my uni no idea why. Yeah and it's got half girls. Truly a meme.