>generates random numbers I believe you mean pseudorandom.
Thomas Sullivan
your thread has no topic, just a bitter defensive rant which is retarded in an anonymous board post something interesting or fuck off
Nolan Jackson
Nice reddit spacing faggot. How about you go back there.
Xavier Martin
you have obviously no idea what you're talking about. explain yourself if you're correcting someone who spend more than 30 years researching it.
I am so kind and post you this page out of his book, if you still believe you're reply is appropiate you are an idiot
Nathan Morales
>explain yourself if you're correcting someone who spend more than 30 years researching it. Prove it, I doubt you're even 30 years old.
Nathan Jones
the topic is randomness in nature and how Cellular Automata is the mechanic behind it.
>I'm too stupid to read so I just judge you by the appearance of your typesetting bravo
Luis Campbell
I'm not wolfram you idiot, but I did read his book, which I doubt you did before spurting bullshit.
Bentley Fisher
>I'm not wolfram you idiot, but I did read his book, which I doubt you did before spurting bullshit. Then why isn't the claim that it generates random numbers on the page you poster? The word 'number' isn't even on the page after a quick glance
Isaiah Sanchez
what the fuck is reddit spacing stop posting that in every thread you fucking mongoloid
still no contribution to the topic, post SOMETHING if you want people to discuss
you can't generate random numbers with a computer, brainlet
Eli Brooks
maybe read the book? I'm not here to explain, I'm here to communicate.
Isaac Russell
>maybe read the book? I'm not here to explain, I'm here to communicate. Feel free how to communicate the method by which cellular automata produce random numbers.
Charles Hill
>still no contribution to the topic, post SOMETHING if you want people to discuss SOMETHING
>you can't generate random numbers with a computer you can't generate random numbers, period.
Again I'm not here to explain, if you don't have the base knowledge to discuss, why in intrinsic random number generation by CAs might be the randomness nature displays to us, it's not worth talking with you.
Bentley Scott
>Again I'm not here to explain, if you don't have the base knowledge to discuss, why in intrinsic random number generation by CAs might be the randomness nature displays to us, it's not worth talking with you. Didn't you read the book? It sounds like you didn't retain much
Jason Johnson
read the book. I won't explain it to you, I'm not your teacher and in no way obligated to.
just leave this thread if you feel you have nothing to contribute, bye.
Daniel Richardson
>just leave this thread if you feel you have nothing to contribute, bye. Is all you have to contribute claims you can't back up?
Anthony Cooper
>you can't generate random numbers, period. why the fuck do you reply to me angrily only to agree with me idiot
Jacob Edwards
I don't claim anything, it is the research and claims from Stephen Wolfram I am discussing here. I'm merely repeating what he's postulating
Alexander Flores
Reddit spacing refers to having a full blank line of space inbetween paragraphs, I presume because you need to do that in reddit unless you want a unspaced wall of text.
For example: >"Reddit" spacing Idea idea idea idea
Blah blah blah
>"normal" spacing
Idea idea idea Blah blah blah
Jason Cooper
you said literally nothing tho, and you're not discussing shit. you just said >hurr it generates random numbers and you have no idea what it means
Nathan Flores
didn't you stop for a second and think that maybe
just maybe
spacing lines like that serves to communicate intent and add expression? and people didn't copy it from your site for retards?
why don't you just fuck off back there
Gabriel Morgan
>I don't claim anything Then what did you mean by >look on how it generates random numbers
James Cook
perfect randomness would never give life to organized systems, there is always causality involved, even if it's highly complex.
I don't however agree that because of that, it should be defined as PSEUDOrandomness, because it's not right.
"pseudorandomness" is natures true randomness, and we are part of it, so if we are think an even more random randomness exists, we are simply mistaken.
randomness can arise from non-random input. current belief is that you need random input to have random output.
John Cook
I've never seen anyone produce actual proof that Mathematica uses cellular automata in any way.
Luke Ward
this looks like a silly rant on nature for no reason. randomness means the uniform distribution. try to prove that you can grab a skewed distribution and generate uniform without knowing where the skew is
It’s easy enough to get true random numbers from radioactive decay. See above.
Leo Stewart
>radioactive decay generates a uniform distribution unless you have a citation or a proof (hint: there isn't one) then no one gives a shit on what particular gimmick you use for your PRNG
Jose Butler
>proof Mathfag detected. Learn2physics.
James Young
let me speak your language then >DIS NO RANDUM, U NO KNO DK RDNUM
Adrian Fisher
>Mathfag detected. Learn2physics. so it is pseudorandom
Bentley Bell
Go back plebbit you cancerous piece of shit.
Andrew Scott
>grab a skewed distribution and generate uniform ok >grab a skewed distribution >select one number >use that number as an index in a PRNG table Why do random numbers need to be so complicated to you? Cryptographically random numbers are a whole different subject, and if this is what you meant, you need to quantify that shit at the start of the thread instead of starting a retarded shitflinging fest.
Ian Phillips
If it takes 5 mins for 5 machines to make 5 objects. How much time would it take 100 machines to make 100 objects?
Luke Watson
>too stupid to collaborate on contemporary math or physics
>pretends he's so much of a fucking genius that he's changing EVERYTHING
>I'M SO FUCKING ABOVE YOU ALL GUYS
Retard.
Alexander Sullivan
If you complicate things, it might look random, for example, overly chaotic systems might seem random, all tho they are still deterministic.
William Thomas
Isn't Wolfram it's own coding language nowadays?
Studying Ind. E and despite being taught how to use mathematica and matlab I still have no idea in what context I'd ever need to use either program.
Landon James
well plotting or not?
Carter Gray
>look on how it generates random numbers ...You do realize there are thousands of quality PRNGS and how Mathematica does it is just because Wolfram is obsessed with CAs right? CA is not the most efficient way to do it. The fact that Mathematica uses it anyway is a testament to Wolfram's big ego.
>Wolfram will be one of the most important persons of our generation regarding computational science and math. In your dreams, you slobbering groupie.
Zachary Myers
you don't know what you're saying at all
Lucas Miller
one of my professors talked about Wolfram's tour when he first released Mathematica and a whole buncha professors from the Maths department complained that when calculating the value of pi the seven hundredth decimal value was incorrect
>it's all a lie
Jordan Thomas
I'm pretty sure someone who has studied this subject for no more than a year would know what a PRNG is and that Mathematica uses a PRNG.
Sebastian Butler
>See, Mathematica uses CA as an inefficient CA because Wolfram wanted to. This proves CA is totally important and Wolfram is a genius! >This thread is for the discussion of CA! No I won't discuss CA, read Wolfram's book! >You can create a random distribution from a deterministic one! >CA underlies all randomness in nature even though I have no reason or evidence to believe this!
Another epic thread from Veeky Forums's resident delusional CAfag. Well done.
Jacob Baker
Heard Wolfram give a talk where he said they used Rule 30 for a while but now they don't because they found a more efficient way of doing RNG.
Anyway ONE application of CAs that also has a billion different alternatives does not prove they are in any way meaningfully useful.
Anthony Nguyen
I'm not that guy but that sort of spacing has been common on Veeky Forums for years. Good use of whitespace in particular is a trait among pure mathfags who spend a disproportionate amount of time masturbating over LaTeX.
That isn't to say that reddit isn't a shithole, only that you're a brainlet for using appropriate whitespace use as an argument in a math thread.