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>The Idiot, about 200 pages in
>catching up with the /swtg/ schedule

Might start Don Quijote today.

>It's actually pretty good even if it uses metric instead of free verse.

Maybe one of the reasons it's good is precisely the fact it uses meter? Homer, Virgil, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Camoes, Calderon, Keats, Auden, and Pasternak used meter.

Free verse is the atonalism of poetry. It's a disgrace. It certainly can be great - as in Whitman or some of Pound -, but meter is still the safest way to go. Only geniuses can write good free verse. It's extremely difficult. Even Yeats hesitated, and mostly sticked to meter.

If you want to see some poets talking bad about meter, take a look at the appendix from William Baer's Writing Metrical Poetry.

I've been reading Filinto Elisio. Neoclassical portuguese poet. Very funny.

I have the KJV here. I don't know if I should read it at the moment, nor if I would want to go through all of it.

Have you ever read Figueiredo's translation? I wanted to buy it, but it's usually very expensive. Many respectable men have praised it highly.

Troll.

no I haven't, but after I finish the KJV (in english) I plan on re-reading at the very least genesis, psalms and the whole new testament in portuguese, will probably use Figueiredo's if I can find it online somewhere

oh and by the way, just looked in the public library website and they got it there. its actually surprising the amount memes they got there, they even have IJ (translated though)

*narcos theme plays gently in background*

>México
>King Lear

I've also been reading other stuff, mostly short stories, articles, and essays. I just finished "The Fly" by Katherine Mansfield. Highly recommend it, quite poignant.

I have a friend from Venezuela, and it really pains me to see what happens over there. Then again I'm from México, so I can't say we are better off here.

wtf are subhuman shitskins doing on my shitposting board

hello friend, welcome

Chile here
Casa de Campo by José Donoso
Jose Donoso usually gets tons of shit, I dont dont why, I think he is great.

This post is so structurated.
>Pizarnik
Es tan buena, me conmueve mucho.
>¿Eres Anarquista?
Un poco, como el tío en Niebla jaja.
La verdad es que no participo en ningún colectivo, incursioné un poco en esa onda pero me desagradaban un poco las personas, además que tenía muy poco tiempo. Conozco gente super metida pero ninguno es realmente cercano. Anarquistas no "militantes", que se identifican al momento de posicionarse discursivamente, tengo varios amigos.
¿Por qué la pregunta?
>Bulgákov
Hay una "Morfina" edición LOM, super barata.
Yeah, I didn't want to sound too rude against metric, metric is really good. I don't think it's better than free verse though, I believe they both display different moods and kinds of dialogues.
>Only geniuses can write good free verse. It's extremely difficult
I don't know. I love both but I still find enjoyable a lot of free verse that isn't really that great. As far as I noticed metric use is hardly used nowadays. I really like this horny old man, but even when I love his poetry I know he's not that great.
Although all the free verse I consume is in spanish
I'll take a look at that, sounds interesting.

I've been reading Mansfield too - and coincidentally The Fly is my favourite of her short stories thus far!

anyone on this board from mexico city? im going down next month. want to give me a tour? what are some Veeky Forums things to do?

Because he was a shit father and not a leftist. Also his books had a lot of shocking elements, which is incredibly good in my opinion but general public can be a little shit in that regard. But I don't actually see him getting tons of shit, Neruda gets a lot of shit too, but people still like both.
Donoso is revered as far as I know. I started Casa de Campo some months ago but I dropped it after the first episodes. My favorite book by Donoso is "El obsceno pájaro de la noche".

I am. Where you from, my man? There are a lot of museums and archaeological zones.

I'm really enjoying casa de campo, why did you drop it?

i live in washington, d.c., from new england. whats up with patrick miller?

slogging through savage detectives right now and trying to level up on spanish

Op here, glad I made this post, ive enjoyed reading you, guys.

why

Because I feel lonely

grow a pair... of anti-depressants

(I haven't talk about literature in ages this thread is so convenient!)
Lemebel is being hip again with the post mortem Mi amiga Gladys. What do you think of him?
The plot didn't really picked my interest and I had read El obsceno not long ago. I found myself saturated with Donoso.

Never heard of him, should i read his work?

I think its mostly due to the current state of my romantic bonds, not depression itself.

I've never been to Patrick Miller but some friends have told me it's pretty cool, specially when they play song from the 80s and 90s. If you like to dance, then it's a great place to go.

Aside from that, I recommend you go the Tenochtitlan to see the pyramids, to the Centro Histórico (Bellas Artes, la Alameda, el Templo Mayor, el Zócalo, la Catedral, etc), to Xochimilco, to Coyoacán, and to Chapultepec. There are many more places here, Mexico City is a really, really big city, but those I think are the main attractions.

If you want to I can give you a tour, so long as you don't kidnap me or anything like that (nor take out your MAGA hat while on the street, since I can't guarantee your personal safety).

I'm Brazilian and I've been slowly making my way through Plato, but in English though because for a reason I can't quite fathom Portuguese is really bad for philosophy.

Then grow a pair of balls, my dude
>I found myself saturated with Donoso.
That's understandable

From Lemebel I only read Tengo Miedo Torero some years ago, the guy was a good narrator for sure, the left overrating of him makes me kind of sick
If you get triggered by explicit homoerotic/trans sex and romanticism, and leftist POV of Pinochet's dictatorship, you shouldnt read Tengo Miedo Torero

Ill grow them, i guess. Thanks.
Ill give it a try

Really!? Man, you're missing out. Not only as a writer, Lemebel is a big figure in chilean art. His chronicles are godly, but his whole works are incredibly potent. He had a radio in which he interviewed Bolaño. You definitely need to read him.
In this picture he's along Francisco Casas (they both were a two men art group called Las yeguas del apocalipsis) dancing cueca above a map of Chile covered in Coca-Cola broken glass bottles. As the cueca went on their feet were covering the map with blood, pretty good shit IMO.
Check out his Manifiesto (Hablo por mi diferencia): lemebel.blogspot.cl/2005/11/manifiesto-hablo-por-mi-diferencia.html

yeah man, cool. shoot me a note when you get a chance - sammycharmed at gmail dot com

And, of course, I forgot the picture.

>howtogetaids.jpg
The interview with Bolaño is great, I really enjoyed Bolaño BTFO'ing the literary critic for being such a pseud

Lemebel is not a literary critic though, they were friends.

I wasnt talking about Lemebel. In the interview, at some point, an old lady comes up and starts talking nonsense and Bolaño gets triggered and then proceeds to BTFO her

Oh yeah, yeah. Sorry. Olea.
I should listen to it again.

what is the most literary spic country

If by spic you mean Iberia and it's former colonies I'd say Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, and Mexico.

Guatemala and Cuba too. Even Paraguay.

Brazilian, going through the first hundred pages of V. and I love me some Papa Pynch. Planning to tackle Huysmans' Against Nature next, and I can't wait for my beloved winter to dawn and allow me to read The Magic Mountain in over-comfy mode.

Also, which state are you hues from? Barriga Verde fag here.

>had to google 'barriga verde'
>"Assim foram alcunhados os legionários catarinenses, que, com uma faixa verde à cinta, à guisa de distintivo, marcharam para a Cisplatina com o mesmo denodo com que mais tarde seguiram para o Paraguai os seus descendentes."
nice. went to barra velha - santa catarina few weeks ago for a cousin's birthday party

was going to ask you which state you are from to actually feel brazil's winter.

I am , from curitiba - paraná. hell yes man, i hate reading in the summer. don't have anything specific to read on winter though, maybe some dostoyevsky.

very excited to get to papa pynchon. gonna read lot 49 and jump straight into GR

Brazillian here, currently reading Goethe's Faust.

I'd like some opinions on my short story:
pastebin.com/ZqHvtm4U

>not a leftist
Are you implying you're a leftist? Are you retarded?

>Goethe's Faust.

Translation? How is it?

He means most non-left writers get some shit at some moment
Your reading comprehension is shit

I got the old Martin Claret edition, Agostinho D Ornellas. It's great, I'm still learning german so I can't say if it's faithful to the original, but I'm loving it. I bought it in Maringá a few days ago, went on a trip there with a few friends.

I feel stupid. I barely read the post he was replying to, just wanted to know if all brazillian readers are leftists so I sparked a discussion, sorry.

Looks nice, from what I saw over google.

Martin Claret makes some beautiful editions, sadly they are known for stealing translations.

Chile

Argie. Story of Love from Nicole Krauss. Just recently started it.

Fucking loved Faust.

Paradiso by Jose Lezama Lima bros.

looking forward to read this!

Bolivian here. I'm 50 pages into 2666 by Roberto Bolaño yet can't make up my mind. The pacing is fine and doesn't take irregular leaps, but the prose gets kind of rough at times, like another draft should have been tried, but you can get behind it. And the seamless paragraphs are quite easy to get lost in, which aren't really like those written by Borges, who tried to cram as much as he could into every single one, but instead these connect to something far and then go back again.

Maybe I should just start with any other of his earlier works.

>just wanted to know if all brazillian readers are leftists so I sparked a discussion
Donoso is chilean though.
I'm a leftist too though.

Mexico

Right now reading Spinoza's ethics. I like it although would like to read a more "updated" version if it exists

Dude just read it, is a great book, the first part is probably the worst

Brazilian.
Cien Anos de Soledad, but there was too much noise, so I still didn't finished.
Atm I'm reading Joe Sacco's Palestine, a comic book about the palestine side of the arabian-israelense conflict, it's pretty interesting so far.
Aside that I started learning german.

Canadian here, Sacco's Palestine is great and the interrogation scenes gave me a serious bout of claustrophobia.

I love latin literature and hope to one day make it down south (at least further than Mexico)

Spain

¿Alguien ha leído los cuentos de Paulina Flores?

>the interrogation scenes gave me a serious bout of claustrophobia
Spoiler Reee

>Canadian here
I know it's cliche but, do you speak french?

que son las obras de cada pais que has anotado que se deberia leer

>literatura
>paraguay

como la describiria

Paraguay has Roa Bastos. Now, if you don't know who he is, then you should check yourself before you #rekt yourself.

Cuba has Lezama Lima and Carpentier, Guatemala has Monterroso and Asturias. And that's just the more famous examples.

excellent

Brazilian.
Divine Comedy and Illuminatus Trilogy. I don't have hue or spanish latin american books in the buffer though. Borges and Machado would be the closest, but there's like 15 gringo books with a higher priority.

>Bertoni
Recién lo conozco. Parece tener en común con Pizarnik (según Wikipedia*) la Guggenheim. ¿Con que texto suyo debiera empezar? ¿"El cansador intrabajable"?

>¿Por qué la pregunta?
Por tu gusto de Gómez Rojas, quien se llamaba Anarquista**. Fan de Nietzsche y amigo íntimo de Manuel Rojas (habiéndolo incitado a escribir)**; me atrae, bastante. Asumí era posible tu gusto trascendiera el de su obra por sí sola. Ahora, tomando tu simpatía a la ideología en cuenta, te recomiendo la editorial Hiparquía (parece no puedo postear el link, búscalos en Facebook como "Hiparquía Libros"), que publica barato y decente, tienen las obras completas de Pizarnik en $6000, por ejemplo. Todo lo publicado es, en mi opinión, genial y, en casos, difícil de encontrar. En tu cara, Metales Pesados.

>Hay una "Morfina" edición LOM, super barata.
La tengo, es incomoda no solo en formato pero también en traducción, habiendo leído la otra no puedo recomendar esta más que por el precio, la verdad.

*es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Bertoni#Premios_y_distinciones
**es.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Domingo_Gómez_Rojas#Biograf.C3.ADa

>Bolivian

Wew, never thought I'd find another one here. Are you also region-banned? I have to post from my phone

As from me, I'm currently reading Pale Fire, almost done with it and really enjoying it now that I can see it all come together.

I got a banned message a week ago due to some flooding on /b/. Funny thing is I haven't touched that board since six years ago, but I'm under a dynamic IP so no problemo.

>¿Con que texto suyo debiera empezar? ¿"El cansador intrabajable"?
El Bertoni de Harakiri es mucho mejor pero El cansador intrabajable es un buen punto de partida.

Well, my IP is static and I get a message saying that the whole country is blocked "due to abuse". I can't post from home or from work so I assumed it really was all of Bolivia that got screwed. Where are you from, my dude?

This that is happening is what is supposed to happen. I can pretend to understand the reasons why it's happening, but it would not change it one bit, as it is the result of past actions.

It's okay, though. People are waking up to the lack of morals/values in our society, and at least acknowledge that the root is not solely the goverment.

Corruption is ingrained in latin america, after all, the spaniards that immigrated to the continent were utter scum.

Acabo de terminar de leerlo, justamente. Me sorprendió para bien. Igual con maestro y margarita ya me había gustado mucho.

>Spinetta
No, no es de mi agrado. Pero no significa que no reconozca que es muy bueno.

2666 is very easy to read, it's just long

waiting

sent ;)

srsly tho, check your inbox

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que tal te parece? el final es excelente.

también, cuál versión? la de Tusquets?

Oh, dios mío, un peruano

Solo he llegado a la 150, ha sido una semana jodida. Pero hasta ahora hay partes que me han encantado, la del inodoro, por ejemplo.

Brazilian here, I fell for the Bloom meme and I'm actually reading "The Western Canon".
Also, can I get the opinion of a Mexican intellectual on "Los de abajo"?

Los de abajo is an excellent book on its own, but if you want to learn about the Mexican revolution it's even better.

>Mexican intellectuals

I hate this meme with a passion human words cannot even fathom.

Guitarra Negra de Spinetta.
La verdad es que no le estoy entendiendo mucho la onda al tipo

Sorry, that was uncalled for. The joke is on me though, I'm from Rio de Janeiro.

católica, tú?

Yo creo que lo que escribía estaba sobre valorado. Muy. En música era Meh, pero creo que fue el único músico argentino que no copio a otros y hasta casi adelantado. Igual no Podría escuchar un disco entero jamas

Jaja, igual. Humanidades?

Almendra y Artaud son gloriosos.

no serás ''Moisés''?
ciencias

Rompiendo el estereotipo de que ahi no leen. No eres paulo, no?

Sociales.

P-paulo?

Bless you

Si, lo soy