Riddle me this: What causes the body to stop growing? I understand growth plates fuse and harden at a certain age which stops you from gaining any more height. But what's stopping soft tissue like our muscles and internal organs from not just continually growing all the time? How does the body know when to stop growing certain parts of itself?
Any medical fags here that can answer a question?
Bentley Johnson
Kayden Allen
from what i know there are a bunch of genetically predetermined hormones and chemicals that do all the job: signal when puberty starts, when growth hormones are supposed to act on all your body, make your bones and dick grow, and when to close the growth windows for good. you're not gonna find a way to reopen this window with a google search becaude apparently, no doctors/researches/none cares one bit about manlets and dicklets and all you will find is bluepilled bullshit like diet/exercise/scams/accept what you have/X famous person is Y tall.
Nathaniel James
If it's all hormones and chemicals then it could be possible to induce a sort of 2nd puberty that would enhance male/female charactersitics in the individual. Why isn't there research being done on this shit, imagine being the dude that creates the first method for inducing penile growth, you'd be legendary.
Cameron Morris
Telomeres
Brandon Harris
To understand it you have to go back to embryology and see how inhibition and expression of genes all play together. I can't be specific because it isn't extremely well-studied.
>why don't we grow all the time
If human cells touch thats a signal that inhibits further division. Cancer cells ignore this. If you want to override this I guess you have to have stem cells or specific signals from hormones.
>second puberty
You can pump yourself full of growth hormone and your organs will grow. Bones can't because growth plates are predetermined in a way. I'm not entirely sure why your dick won't grow, technically it should.
Luke Carter
> you're not gonna find a way to reopen this window with a google search becaude apparently, no doctors/researches/none cares one bit about manlets and dicklets and all you will find is bluepilled bullshit like diet/exercise/scams/accept what you have/X famous person is Y tall.
lol what. research on this topic does exist, just not exactly what you are looking for, which is cosmetic enhancement. Research into prolonging puberty wouldnt be used for cosmetics but for development disorders, probably hormonal.
>Why isn't there research being done on this shit, imagine being the dude that creates the first method for inducing penile growth, you'd be legendary.
because it's unethical. you try getting the consent of parents of prepubescent children to prolong their puberty with a cocktail of hormones in order to do research on what the "dick growing growth factor" is.
that doesnt stop the body from growing during puberty, that stops cells from dividing/induces senescence
Gabriel Gonzalez
>not wanting to be a manlet and a dicklet and actualy wanting to have a full grown body like any other human being and having normal dating prospects and a fulfilling life is just cosmetic
umm ok.
>its unethical to find genetically predisposed kids with a life of doom ahead with undergrown bones and dick and offer them not only a solution to their problem, but a solution to a very big portion of the male population in this world and also getting paid for it
umm ok too.
James Campbell
parents seem to be pretty eager to pump their children full of hormones nowadays, so that probably won't be an issue
Grayson Walker
>thinks biological research should be utilized to assist his insecurities
good luck with that. maybe you should become rich enough to privately fund it.
good arguments btw
Joseph Gutierrez
>because it's unethical
You don't have to do it to children. Plenty of grown adults would be able to consent to such a treatment if it meant them getting a bigger dick, stronger jaw or maybe a deeper voice.
What if you starve certain cells from the growth hormones that you find naturally in the body? Maybe this "drought" would make the cells sensitive to the same hormones so that when they're reintroduced, it causes a greater growth effect.
Lincoln Fisher
agreed, but doing it arbitrarily for research when we cant even genetically screen for lower-than-normal growth (assuming it's not just OP's shitty genes) is another story.
Jeremiah Torres
>What if you starve certain cells from the growth hormones that you find naturally in the body?
i dont know how one would implement this. Maybe a transgenic human with a cre-lox promoter or something, but yea. Also the implications of starving cells of hormones is probably much worse than the benefit
Aiden Morris
>You can pump yourself full of growth hormone and your organs will grow. Bones can't because growth plates are predetermined in a way. I'm not entirely sure why your dick won't grow, technically it should.
The real answer is that the medical establishment is hiding the truth to protect the overzealous consumer. Any idiot can put 2+2 together and realize that injecting a penis with a combination of growth hormone, DHT, and a small dose of a PDE5 inhibitor to induce a controlled priapism will inevitably trigger growth. Part of that protocol is how they treat micropenis in youths, jumpstarting a broken biochemical pathway for penis development that is present in all humans and doesn't suddenly vanish after puberty. The PDE5/priapism mechanism is how sickle cell sufferers often have massive penises, since their blood condition leaves them prone to erectile dysfunctions.
Alter your hormonal chemistry, you get interesting results. Just don't come back to me when you break your dick or get dick cancer or something because you thought this was a good idea.
Cooper Myers
I've no idea about the details, but you can already block DHT with commercially available products, so it doesn't seem so far fetched.
Lincoln Bell
i thought this was a troll post at first, but damn, there you go OP, there's your research to help your dicklette
Colton Allen
Do sickle cell sufferers often have larger penises because they're more likely to use PDE5 in the form of viagra or the like since they often also suffer from erectile dysfunction? So long lasting erections promote growth?
Parker Fisher
don't go on this quest unless you have the jawline to look like jason statham with a rockin' hardon because all of that DHT is probably going to destroy your hairline
speaking of which, why does DHT make your peepee huge when you're a teen but destroy your hairline only when you're approaching middle age? slow erosion of receptor sensitivity or something?
apologies for the lack of clarity. no, sickle cell anemics are likely to suffer from random priapisms. the reason why priapisms can be so dangerous is because they effectively cut off oxygen supply to dick cells after a long enough period of time, since fresh blood can't circulate quickly enough. if you do this for a short enough period of time, it triggers cells to enter a form of "survival mode" and enhancing cell reproduction, growth of blood capillaries (angiogenesis), etc. do it for too long and cells simply die off and you get permanent nerve damage, erectile dysfunction, gangrene, etc., depending on the severity. the lucky anemics get huge dongs, others have broken dicks.
see related: nydailynews.com
Asher Bennett
>speaking of which, why does DHT make your peepee huge when you're a teen but destroy your hairline only when you're approaching middle age? slow erosion of receptor sensitivity or something?
id imagine the DHT has higher affinity for whatever cells are activated by it during puberty, and those cells are no longer present in later life, so any extra DHT finds itself affecting hairline.
>slow erosion of receptor sensitivity or something?
yea, most likely, or after puberty DHT receptor expression is just downregulated to the point where it doesnt affect those cells anymore
PURE SPECULATION THOUGH
Camden Adams
addendum: the whole idea of oxygen deprivation (hypoxia) triggering growth is fascinating, and you can see it happen in nerve cells as well. it may be one of the reasons why the nootropic "noopept" exhibits its effects, since it activates Hypoxia Inducible Factor 1 (HIF-1), which is a transcription factor that gets a whole bunch of processes going, like enhanced glucose transport, angiogenesis, neurogenesis, etc. As the name suggests, HIF-1 is normally suppressed until the absence of oxygen "activates" it, so noopept tricks the brain into thinking its asphyxiating without actually being deprived of oxygen, resulting in a lot of survival mode responses without most of the drawbacks of, well, asphyxiation. interesting stuff. also this stuff has potential carcinogenic properties too.
see related: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Sebastian Ross
> its asphyxiating without actually being deprived of oxygen, resulting in a lot of survival mode responses without most of the drawbacks of, well, asphyxiation.
that does not sound good in the long term.
Hudson Gomez
>unironically correlating insecurity with body issues instead of actual insecurity like living in a muslim/communist/african country or high crime neighborhood
Joseph Miller
the fuck are you talking about, user clearly is a manlet and dicklette who wants research on how to not be a manlette/dicklette
Dylan Davis
it really doesn't, mostly because of the increased cancer risks imo. you'd be protecting your own cells and cancer cells from oxidative damage, creating new opportunities for the genesis of cancer cells through reproduction, providing new links for nourishment of cancer cells through angiogenesis, etc. But I don't think it's immediately carcinogenic though.
Asher Hughes
if you have an iq above 10 you can clearly see that the in the post i replied to the poster relates insecurities to body issues when instead it should be relared to lack of actual security in environments with great risk of harm coming to you
Connor Jackson
are you blind? or do you lack reading comprehension? Please quote where anyone mentioned anything about the actual environment being what we are talking about. We are talking about cellular growth, not socioeconomic environments.
Jack Brooks
well, looks like your iq doesnt even reach 5.
see here:
>"thinks biological research should be utilized to assist his insecurities"
you see, biological research in terms of human development has very, very little to nothing to do with insecurity where there are real threats on the streets against your physical integrity.
>"please quote where anyone mentioned anything about the actual environment being what we are talking about"
exactly. no mentions. you cant talk about insecurity when you dont talk about potential threats against your personal safety.
Eli Allen
jesus christ what convoluted line of thinking did you pull out of your ass to justify your random ass point which no one cares about.
we are not talking about physical environment security. if you dont understand this, you're beyond help. We are talking about cells growing.
>you see, biological research in terms of human development has very, very little to nothing to do with insecurity where there are real threats on the streets against your physical integrity.
no one is talking about real threats. we are talking about why OP wants to grow his fucking dick longer, because he is fucking insecure with his own body.
your reading comprehension is absolute garbage.
>exactly. no mentions. you cant talk about insecurity when you dont talk about potential threats against your personal safety.
yes i fucking can, learn to stay on topic. Make your own fucking thread about research helping your socioeconomic condition.
Jace Ward
congratulations you are literally the most unredeemably retarded individual on Veeky Forums who can't even comprehend basic human technologies like languages and their meaning and how to use them to build a logically connected arrangement of words in order to communicate something
Camden Ross
Dude the risk sounds like nothing. Only increased cancer risk because of cell growth and new capillaries forming. There's an increased cancer risk from going through puberty as well (because your cells replicate), doesn't mean puberty is bad.
brb asphyxiating my cock for some gains.
Nathaniel Long
so, how to induce controlable priapism?
Christopher Harris
ITT: people fucking up and breaking their dick permanently because they decided to experiment with PDE5 because of some random user's speculation about biochemistry
don't you faggots come crying to me when "my dick dont no work no more" because you miscalculated the amount of PDE5 inhibitor you needed, ended up with a 20 hour long erection, and felt too embarrassed to or was too poor to call an ambulance
Isaac Hernandez
how do I make my penis bigger?
Jackson Phillips
Think about giant throbbing penises
Jace Powell
thenks
Colton King
The cessation of, "human growth hormone." People who have a damaged pituitary gland continue to grow without stopping. Their heart usually fails though. There's only so much distance it can pump properly. The same sort of problem occurs with massively obese people. Blood flow can't be maintained and secondary problems start occurring. Take this guy here. He was 490lbs and 8' 11.1" tall. He was 22yo when he died from an infection (twelve pallbearers were needed to carry his massive body.). Most people don't make it that far for other medical complications though some can reach a fairly old age.
Charles Campbell
if anyone is insane enough to inject his dick with pde5 (which i'm not sure is available anyway) surely he'd have some adrenaline on hand just in case
the whole thing the guy laid out is pretty risky desu
Camden Kelly
wtf it worked
Jaxon Allen
even with fused growth plates?
Brayden Peterson
dont quote me, but fairly certain the HGH going back to normal after puberty either causes or correlates with bone plates fusing. So in their cases, they never fuse
Parker Harris
any possibilities growth plates implants are going to be anything any close to real any time soon?
Nicholas Smith
I believe estrogen is the primary hormone that causes growth plates to fuse. Excessive testosterone during adolescence will also increase estrogen in the body, signaling growth plates to close. Boys with too much testosterone will actually end up shorter than others, this is what essentially happened to me. Now I'm a 5'7" hairy manlet at the age of 18. Any oldfags here grew a few inches after adulthood? Am I fucked?
Charles Hernandez
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