What is your impression of Japanese literature?

Their Catholic literature is better than their Shinto literature.

>shinto literature

you havent read any jap lit have you you memelord

Well that goes without saying

Nothing just that Morimi Tomihiko is the Pynchon of jap lit

i like tanizaki and dazai. wasn't that into murakami, and i need to check out other classics, but tanizaki is pretty good.

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Akutagava was cool in my opinion.
LOGH was pretty good too.

The japanese are creative but often lack the quality in the execution.

But I can

>judges the entire body of Japanese literature based on one autistic space opera and another who literally only writes short stories

just

I enjoy the stories themselves but the writing is pretty bad.

I use to fuck it in the asshole every weekend

>dude magical realism
>dude japanese food

That's what I've gathered but I've only read like 3 Japanese authors.

they are like aliens imitating real humans

All of the Japanese literature I've read is deeply melancholy. And the mundane is often described very poetically, elevating it such that it no longer seems dull and ordinary but new, essential and sometimes even mysterious. I suppose that's Buddhism's influence.

Poor really. Haven't read anything that I really liked.

Explains why Ozu is the only highly regarded director whose work I can't get into. Melancholy alienates me.

Why do so many Japanese 20th century authors commit suicide, Veeky Forums? Weren't they all womanizers from wealthy families? I don't get it,desu.

>womanizers
Have you seen japanese women?

I watched almost all Anri Okita JAV if that counts.

Well this thread tells me no one has actually read Japanese literature on Veeky Forums

Why are you guys such posers?

Loved everything I've read, save for IQ84, which was still better than I was expecting.

I finished The Master of Go last week and I strongly recommend it, btw, very touching book and extremely insightful on japanese traditions.

It doesn't. A few porn starlets specifically selected out of tens of thousands Japanese women are not representative of the entire female population, you know.

Give counterexamples that prove Japanese literature is something more than endless emotional masturbation about the same things over and over again.

As a man who has read Soseki's Kokoro, Mishima's Confessions and Sailor and Dazai's No Longer Human, I can say this with confidence: It's all shit the chinese are better go read Dream of the Red Chamber.

i like it

>what is the burden of proof?

>What is appeal to authority?

Pretty good

If I could teach a course of comparative literature at my local university, it would probably be Japanese literature. I think there is something particularly fascinating about the sense of loss in Meiji era and Postwar Japan that doesn't pervade quite as strongly elsewhere in the world, only because Japan was forced to take such a rapid track to Westernization. There is a deep feeling explored that there is in that Westernization a loss of identity, especially in Soseki, in Ogai, and later in Mishima, Dazai, and Kawabata.

Abe doesn't really fit into that mold, but Kangaroo Notebook is probably the funniest thing I've ever read.

High, because of the emphasis on beauty and sadness. (Related: guess who my favourite Japanese writer is).

are you familiar with literature pre-Meiji era?
I'm always looking for good translations of medieval-era poetry that can capture that Buddhist feel in english, but as evidenced by this thread nobody knows what they're talking about

Not as familiar as I'd like to be. If threads weren't as transient as they are, I would be able to hook you up by next week (I think there is a professor in the Japanese department who teaches an entire course on the Japanese novel), but alas.

>I watched almost all Anri Okita JAV if that counts.
w-which one you recommend?

give him your email

I don't think there's any way for me to do that anonymously, and giving my personal email out on Veeky Forums sounds like a beacon to get spammed with DFW faces, or worse.

pppd-451
pppd-288
mide-225
mide-186
mird-150 (threesome with Hitomi Tanaka)

Then give him your non personal email and send him your real email from there

This isnt rocket science

Besides nobody cares enough to spam you. I've given my email out plenty of times

このスレに、誰か日本語を読める?

Japanese is flat and dull, and literally doesn't have room for good prose.
Take Murakami, for example. In the west, he is hailed for short and concise -yet deep- prose. However, his writing is standard plain nippongo, and translated into English with heaps of fluff and advanced expressions.

t. user who wasted his youth learning moonrunes

I can, its pretty good. Fuck Murakami though.

you know murakami isnt considered japanese literature right?

>Japanese writer writing in Japanese and internationally acclaimed as the best Japanese contemporary author is not considered Japanese writer
whew, lad

or just make a new thread about it when you get the chance, I'm sure I'll still be browsing Veeky Forums in a week (as depressing as that sounds)

suicide is big in japan

clearly anime is the lifeblood of japanese creative culture

What do you think about Kenji Siratori, buddies?

I think that japs are incapable of pronouncing the syllable 'si', so he can't possibly be named Siratori.

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I dedicated the previous year of my life to reading Japanese literature, gotta say it's really worth it once you get beyond the surface.

See, the problem is plebs like praising Dazai, Mishima and the like for their "sensual, reflective & oh-so-deep" style while their prose basically holds no value for a modern western reader. If people were more honest with themselves, bright and talented authors like Mariko Koike or Miyuki Miyabe would be considered representatives of Japanese literature instead of that bunch of pretentious, depressed edgelords mistakenly thought of as "classics".

>What is your impression of Japanese literature?
It ras best of timesu, it was wust of timesu

Sentimental, immature, young adult.

he's completely divorced from the Japanese literary tradition and is frequently ignored by the japanese literary establishment. he's japanese literally by ethnicity only, he's an american author who happens to have a Japanese name.

Haven't read too much - probably a similar amount to most posters here (Murakami, Mishima, Soseki) but I like the more explicit discussion on principles and values. But I guess those are just the ones that get popular in the West since they're so explicitly 'Japanese'. Hmm.

I don't think that they're soulless, per se, I think there's a limit to what the language itself can express. They've basically lived on top of eachother for their entire history. As the saying goes, good fences make good neighbors, and I think they made up for it in their language which does a pretty good job of making clear relationship distinctions.

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The only thing I've read from the gooks was NHK.
I think NHK should have been retitled My Diary DESU. It's barely even a novel, it's like a long confession.

What should I read next? I wanna start scratching the surface.

Kunrei-shiki romanization is much more common in Japan than Hepburn romanization, which is far more popular in the west. Which is a shame, because kunrei-shiki is fucking awful to look at.