What have you gained from your knowledge of philosophy and literature, Veeky Forums?

What have you gained from your knowledge of philosophy and literature, Veeky Forums?

I want to better cope with life's external circumstances and have more peace of mind. I'm tired of worrying solely about myself and my own personal flaws, focusing on them has only ever depressed me and never inspired me to change much. I'd rather concern myself with the greater issues of life and pursue self development through the attainment of knowledge. From your experience, has education, specifically education in philosophy and literature, helped you in this regard? Are you more or less happy?

Veeky Forums doesn't know how to respond to questions like this, trust me

It taught me not to ask myself questions like "Am I happy?"

Masturbation and video games have done more for me than any book I've read.

The point of being well-read isn't to be happy you dipshit, it's a lot easier to be happy just drinking beer and watching movies.

Yeah fuck you up.

Trust me, don't watch porn or play video games for a year and see if you feel like a new man or not.

You are better of seeing a therapist than reading a lot of books if you want to be happy.

I have attained a new sense of direction.

Literature is the best tool for discovering anv understanding nrlew perspectives of reality and the combination of all of these leads to the transformation and refinement of the soul.

I think you gave yourself a solution right in this post. You analise your problems and flaws too much without actually doing direct ,practical changes. Because of course you cant fix your shit just by thinking. Sit down and write your problems and how could you solve them. Its just that simple

It's not necessarily the pursuit of happiness I'm interested in, but more fruitful perspectives on life and the self, and the absence of mental discord.
Many of my problems and deficiencies seem too abstract to take tangible action against them. What's the practical solution for apathy, disillusionment, maladjustment and aimlessness?

>more fruitful perspectives on life and the self, and the absence of mental discord.
Why? That's still just self-interest. No different from wanting to be happy. Your whole thread is about YOUR feelings and YOUR "problems and deficiencies." Maybe being self-absorbed and looking for Big Answers to Your Problems in books is, get this, your actual problem?

Id say that those are symptoms of root causes wich could be fixed practically. Of course you have to think how to do it,but you cant fix it by only thinking
Aimlessness->have a goal
Apathy- why are you like this? How could you not be? Then pursue the conditions that lead you to non apathy
Same for dissiusionment.
You dont need profound answers to those questions. Just make a reasonable plan

Dont listen to this user,hes just being mean.
But he has a point. The answers are not in profound books. Its self knowledge and stuff

im happier. but thinking of it in crude terms kind of kills it. at some point you forget about the 'pursuit' and the things youve sought for start actualizing themselves. im happier in a sense that i wouldve never foreseen what im on to right now. if i stayed lazy life would be too predictable to even feel enjoyment. in my 'pursuit' of knowledge however, a lot of bridges, relationships and expectations from others have been btfo in my life. in that sense you have to rework what happiness is to you and your part in people around you.

The unexamined life isn't worth living.

Op these people are just going to pull your leg or tell you to read the Greeks (you don't have to).

Personally what has helped me the most isn't necessarily the reading itself, but the reflection of what I have read. For instance if I've read a passage or even just a line or two from Nietzche, I can go lay in bed and reflect on how that passage is correct, how it has problems, how it could be refined, and more importantly how the refining of this idea that he's written could potentially help me.

After reflecting I go and write (paper and pencil is best no matter what anyone else tells you, it really solidifies the information in your head) my refinement of this idea, and how I can use this idea/philosophy to aid in what I want. That's the most important, you have to know what you want, but you have to know SPECIFICALLY what you want. It can't be something like "i want to worry less", it has to be more akin to "i don't want to get nervous when I give a speech" or "I don't want to worry about my work while I'm trying to relax". These highly specific wants will help you when your doing exactly what you've mentioned. When you begin you can think to yourself "I really wanted to work towards not doing this, so I'm going to try really hard not to worry right now". And once you have mastered all these specifities together you have achieved a greater goal.

If you need an example I can provide one of my own, I find that examples help me learn more than pure explanation. For me, I've been having a lot of trouble with talking to people and letting myself be cutoff in conversations. This was my first problem to improve upon, and I did it thinking I was just freewriting. In fact I was solidifying an idea to solve this problem that had been floating in my head for a long time.

I started by reading some buddhist stuff (i only dabble, i personally don't like the idea of losing desire), then I sat down and "freewrote" (i wasn't). I first wrote a dialogue between a character that I've been thinking about, and myself (i know it sounds retarded, but trust me). I wrote about how fictional me was fed up with social interactions, and how he was asking fictional character how to improve in social situations. I ended up coming to the conclusion that in order to move forward, I need something simple, something that has been part of human nature since the very begining: faith. Bear with me here, I'm not religious. I needed to have faith not in some otherworldly being or god, not the universe or my parents or friends. I needed to have faith in myself. I needed to trust myself to try new things and make them work. After writing 3 pages about having faith in oneself, and why it's important, and how it can be used, I found my social interactions improving. And through this writing I think now that reflecting upon your improvement is important, so as not to backtrack and get stuck in the negative spiral. First trust yourself to do good, then do good, then reflect.

was that knee-chee or neat-shah.

Don't listen to any of these dummies, user. Being educated doesn't make you happy. It lends support to the views you already have.

If you're a depressive with no hope for himself or the world, being Veeky Forums will tend to reinforce those beliefs. Witness all the mooks around here wasting time seriously writing about nihilism or convoluted grammar games with no practical purpose.

If you've read the Greeks -- Plato & Epictetus, specifically -- and you make effort to be positive in your life because you have reasoned and determined that is the most just act for yourself and others, then lit and phil will support that view as well.

Philosophy and literature convinced me that little was worth living for and that I shouldn't bother struggling to move forward.

Philosophy and literature then convinced me of quite the opposite.

Now I read for enjoyment and weigh things against my own thoughts and beliefs before taking them on.
Also despite my relatively lowly upbringing posh educated people like me, which is good as I can make them buy me drinks in bars and such.

Philosophy justifies embracing eternal madness. Don't do it.

Continuing on from what I said here I'd also like to add that I have decidedly matured as a person in ways that probably would not have happened were it not for reading. I'm calmer, more reasoned and decidedly better at rhetoric, though I argue considerably less. This was preceded by a period of frantic meaning searching and being an argumentative fool however.

It's very possible also that it's just maturity gained with age. I cannot think of a way to distinguish between the two.

I gained the knowledge nobody reads and therefore the porn gets more lewd and depraved. It's amazing; you can be reading The Captive section of Proust and everyone thinks you're just a pretentious twat, not a rapist.
Lolita's the only one where your mileage might vary, and then you can blame it on them not reading and/or being a weeb.

Literally gained 70 lbs, or obesity. I used to go outside every day for most of the day, but now I don't go out for more than an hour in a week.

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>he won't abstain from these things for at least a month because he's addicted to them

Reading has helped me become a better thinker, speaker (I read aloud for a few months, and still do from time to time, to improve my speech), and more open-minded and worldly.

Occasionally making a clever remark

>What have you gained from your knowledge of philosophy and literature, Veeky Forums?
A sense of superiority that I make sure to flaunt at every opportunity.