By saying I'm wrong you're saying magic is real. Matter and or energy behaves according to a complex set of rules fat can be used to calculate absolute outcomes. Therefore determinism is true.
Prove determism wrong
Learn some reading comprehension. He said that science can't answer or test that hypothesis, not that you were wrong.
Now let's be productive. How could we design an experiment to attempt to falsify your claim?
True. I'm a failure and determinist.
I'm not accountable for my failures it's just how it was meant to be.
surely determinism is one of the most pointless debates on here. what is the consequence for everyone on this thread if there is or isnt?
Well you can't. It's like asking how can make an experiment to falsify 2 + 2 is 4.
Perhaps.
I just made the thread because I heard based black science guy say determism is wrong.
computer pseudo randomness is also predetermined but you are still surprised by it. Since one cant simulate the entire universe from inside it, the outcome is even less knowable and more surprising. Since freewill is basically the ability to make an arbitrary or random choice, the chaos in the universe facilitates it rather than hinders it. In addition predetermination means that a future state has to be determinable but since the universe is impossible to keep track of inside of the universe(which contains everything meaning it is impossible to do at all) predetermination is impossible in actuality. The universe only has one path but that is really only one perspective to look at it with.
On a fundamental level cause and effect is just a matter of probability.
You're confusing your ability to determism future events vs whether or not those events are determined. Yes we can't practically predict the future, doesn't mean the future isn't set in stone. That hydrogen atom a billion years from a billion light years from here will be going x velocity and will be in a x y z position, it's determined already even though you will never be able to calculate the position and velocity.
free will isn't the ability to make arbitrary or random choices. surely a random choice is not free will at all. A choice is only "yours" if its contextualised by your desires. all of which is determined. if it wasn't determined, you wouldn't have any desires and you would have no you or reason to be. there would be no such thing as an individual because there would be no reason for variation.
an indeterminate or determinate universe has no impact on free will. free will is essentially a homunculus and only really works in the context of an omniscient mysterious god or spirituality.