We don't know enough about this earth, I think we need to learn more before we make conclusions, we need to do things like drill into the earth itself into the mantle so we can learn more about it
Our temperature records, we don't have records that go back very far, plus what do these graphs even mean?
Sure, maybe some go back like 500,000 years, but thats not a long time you scientists should know it the earth is over a billion years old Volcanos create more co2 then all humans combined know that
plus what the hell do your graphs even mean? there is no base line from which you can reference
Also, alternative energy like solar energy is going to cause the deaths of many poor people cause manufacturing the panels is going to be dangerous
It could start the next energy wars
Also, how can we trust NASA's climate data? they are a politically motivated government organization
Also, the Mauna Launa observations is bullshit because there is no baseline and it has not been recording for more then 60 years
Climate change is not man made it is a result of natural climate changing, and the earth is actually cooling
yeah it is >plus what the hell do your graphs even mean? >your your a moron. plus if you think it's a conspiricy what makes you think an anonymous shitposting site is going to clear things up for you. i'm sure there's plenty of edgy fourms that would be happy to circlejerk around your frontal lobe degeneration
Christopher Young
>I don't want to accept scientific evidence Then get out of this board. I can assure you nobody here will try to waste their time arguing with you.
Jordan King
>>> > Anonymous 07/25/17(Tue)01:15:22 No.90
see even you can't explain the graphs, what do they mean?
There is strong evidence and several articles that the there is global cooling
Also, normal people like myself don't have time to read those "scientific journals" so thats not an argument right there you have to present me evidence
we don't anything about this earth and our temperature records go back 1 million years at most, the earth is 1 billion years
you scientists should realize that
you have no baseline to work off of in the graphs because we don't know
Logan Gomez
>We don't have records that go back very far We have records going back to hundreds of thousands of years extremely accurately
Thomas Rodriguez
Okiedokie. I personally hope another anthrax outbreak from permafrost occurs but isn't contained to just Siberia and kills you.
Tyler Ramirez
Another wave of paid janitor threads. Off topic, easy to spot.
Samuel Parker
That's not a long time the earth is 1 billion years old anything could occur
We need to drill into the earth to know more we know very little
how do you know that data is real? it could be using nasa data and nasa is a government website so they could easily fake derp!
Ethan Jones
>We don't know enough about this earth Who's we? How much do we need to know about the earth before you will admit that CO2 drives the climate via the greenhouse effect?
>Sure, maybe some go back like 500,000 years, but thats not a long time you scientists should know it the earth is over a billion years old How is it not a long time when the period of AGW in question is 100-200 years? You're not making sense.
>Volcanos create more co2 then all humans combined know that Humans emit 60 times more CO2 than volcanoes annually. The total amount over the lifetime of earth is irrelevant when we're talking about their effect over time.
>Also, alternative energy like solar energy is going to cause the deaths of many poor people cause manufacturing the panels is going to be dangerous LOL like you care! AGW will cause far far more damage to your country and poor countries than solar panel manufacture. Hypocrite.
>Also, how can we trust NASA's climate data? they are a politically motivated government organization You're right, and the moon landings were faked. Nevermind that NASA's data agrees with every other record and there is no significant difference from the raw data.
>Also, the Mauna Launa observations is bullshit because there is no baseline and it has not been recording for more then 60 years What are you talking about moron? The entire point of the Mauna Loa observatory is that it is an isolated baseline.
>Climate change is not man made it is a result of natural climate changing, and the earth is actually cooling You are a loon.
lmao seal a room with whatever gases are currently there, now add some heat. Do the same thing except change the concentration of co2 or methane. Whoa the temperature differential is higher now
Aaron Ward
The planet is not a sealed room.
Adrian White
>I don't understand the evidence so I think shit that no one cares about.
Alexander Green
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Hunter Mitchell
>Climate change is not man made it is a result of natural climate changing, and the earth is actually cooling
You spend way too much time saying we don;t know enough to know what is going on to then categorically state what is going on.
1/10, please hang up and troll again later.
Owen Richardson
Problem with those graphs is that they have no baseline and it only spans the last 100 years
Nathaniel Young
So 1 degree in 100 years? So in 3000, it might be one degree warmer?
This does not look like OMG NEW YORK IS UNDER THE SEA!!!!
Looks like a fairly minor problem that we have plenty of time to work on.
Colton Young
>So in 3000 FUCK!
In 2100. In a hundred years.
Easton Lewis
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Ian Hill
So gas doesn't get trapped in our atmosphere then? Sort of like a sealed room? Then how are you breathing?
Bentley Smith
>So 1 degree in 100 years? So in 3000, it might be one degree warmer?
you're not good at math are you?
the answer to that problem was 30 degrees
John Edwards
Ha caught myself before you did. So the point is still -- in 100 years it may get very slightly warmer.
Pardon me if I don't panic about that.
Any number of geoengineering approach can be tried if need be, or in that time we may develope either energy techs that don;t produce CO2 or industries that need it as a resource.
Lots can happen while we slowly watch the thermometer go up an imperceptible amount.
Carter Reed
>We don't know enough What do you mean by "we", Peasant?
Brayden Perez
we as human beings
there are very few reliable sources and most articles are not very accurate
its hard to find unbiased information because everyone from nasa to scientists have agenda
we can't trust nasa because they are from the government
Benjamin Davis
>European hour >everyone ignores the retard >American hour >they fucking bump the thread
Jesus Fucking Christ, learn some self control
Jackson Miller
He used the right your you fucking brainlet, he wasn't trying to say "you are graphs"
Sebastian Adams
This is pure misinformation with no context. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Wyatt Diaz
>no baseline >no baseline >no baseline You don't even know what baseline means retard.
Jason Barnes
1.3 degrees celsius in 100 years is unprecedented in the temperature record.
Zachary Butler
>everyone from nasa to scientists have agenda >agenda
Carter Howard
>So the point is still -- in 100 years it may get very slightly warmer. The point is that this is an unprecedented rate of warming which ecosystems Cabot adapt to. 1.3 degrees averaged over the entire globe is massive.
Parker Ortiz
>Volcanos create more co2 then all humans combined a common lie pushed by deniers. human activity actually produces ~100x as much CO2 annually as do volcanoes. a while back I even crunched the numbers and found that even if a supervolcano blew up tomorrow, it would still not put volcanism on top.
>normal people like myself don't have time to read those "scientific journals" so thats not an argument right there you have to present me evidence basically: >you have to present me evidence >and it doesn't count if I don't want to look at it.
>the earth is 1 billion years old niBBa better be trolling
Joshua Flores
We only have been recording tempertures for like 100 years and rhe earth is over 1 billion years old so we have no baseline yearly temp records to compare it to
My point is is that we know so little about the earth it's composition and history of temp that we have nothing to compare our current temps to so for all we know this could be natural
Our graphs could just mean nothing because of how little data there is it's just too convientirnt that your graphs happened to fit your and scientists agendas also those graphs are made by the government and they have an agenda too
You have yet to provide me with any actual data besides those that fit your world view but it is understandable because it is hard to find credible sources as go nermen data is not trust worthy
The earth has been changing its climate naturally
Nicholas Martin
>sage FUCK outta here with this bs >sage
Adrian Long
I want a year by year global temperature record that goes back 1 billion years but we don't have that therefore no baseline
Brody Rodriguez
are you a collective retard
Luis Richardson
We actually lose tons of gas every day. Plus the room would, in order to match the model of the earth in any similar function, include large bodies of water and a constant influx of heat from the sun. If the earth was a closed system life couldn't develop and your stupid opinion wouldn't exist.
Aaron Bennett
>We only have been recording tempertures for like 100 years and rhe earth is over 1 billion years old There is much more information available about temps than the human record.
>so we have no baseline yearly temp records to compare it to But that's false retard. The baseline is just the average temperature over some period of time. The temperature anomaly tells us how much hotter or colder any point in time is relative to the baseline period. The rate of warming is therefore independent of any baseline.
>My point is is that we know so little about the earth it's composition and history of temp that we have nothing to compare our current temps to so for all we know this could be natural You fundamentally don't understand the concept of global warming them. It's not called Global *Warmth*, since it's the rate of warming that's concerning, not the absolute temperature. Not to mention that the overlaps between various temperature proxies allows us to compare absolute temperatures. You are seriously misinformed and ignorant, and you are projecting that ignorance on scientists. Or you'e just a shitty troll pretending to be retarded.
>You have yet to provide me with any actual data besides those that fit your world view Unfortunately, all the data agrees with my worldview, since science derives its worldview from the data. As opposed to people like you who start with their worldview and reject all data that conflicts with it.