I'm going to buy two rats. One male and one female. I will take their offspring and raise one group on fluoridated water, the other on pure spring water. I will see for myself how harmful fluoride is. The real kicker? They can't accuse me of animal cruelty because to do so would be a tacit admission of what I suspect to be the case.
I'm going to find out if fluoride is harmful
Alexander Cooper
Juan Stewart
You would need hundreds of rats to show anything. A single rat could be sick, or die of some other means that you could never test for. So, go for it, but it wont prove or show anything.
Ryder Moore
OP, odds are your project will fail before completion (you will give up) or you will have no idea what to do with the data you collect but anyways I wish you luck.
If you do manage to finish the project and want to share it then vixra.org is a website where you can submit and publish research papers, even if you have no academic affiliation. Obviously, do not expect people to immediately take you seriously because this is a low-tier journal, but as no other journal will take an amateur scientist this is the best opportunity you have to at least kickstart your research.
After that you can post it here, on /pol/, etc. and if you get notoriety then you can look into getting it published into an actual journal, or at least get a newspaper to write an article about your research.
Good luck.
Camden Stewart
this
also, why hasn't anyone ever done this before? People have been bitching about flouride for ages.
Lincoln Scott
Thanks, user.
Brandon Thomas
Cut out the middle man and just livestream yourself drinking HF instead. Would definitely prove your point.
Ryder Taylor
>Implying some spring water isn't naturally high in Fluoride
Chase Thompson
Some spring water is also naturally high in radiation too, what's your point?
Kevin Wood
Who cares if fluoride is harmful? All that really matters is the fact that we shouldn't be paying to dump chemicals into our water for "muh fuggin teef" when everyone already has access to fluoridated tooth paste.
Levi Cox
They probably think it isn't worth the money. Research isn't cheap.
Jeremiah Reyes
With a sample size of 1, you're not going to find out shit. Bring your p down, brainlet.
Jeremiah Evans
Better yet, why not get a population in fluoride and compare it to a population without fluoride? Oh wait it's already been done several times, moron.
Jonathan Turner
>everyone already has access to fluoridated tooth paste.
that's the issue, they dont, it's not like iodized salt, which is actually ubiquitous. Tons of people don't brush their teeth, the unnecessary burden on dentists would be enormous
Gabriel Nelson
Fluoridated toothpaste costs like $6
Logan Campbell
and? again, it's not really the cost or access, it's the fact people don't brush their teeth (especially compared to, well, drinking water)
Tyler Powell
That's there own damn fault, why should I have to pay for it? If they want whiter teeth then they can just brush their fucking teeth
Nolan Morris
you should pay for it because it's part of the unwritten contract you signed by being born in a society. If you dont want to pay for it, that hermit who lived for like 25 years without human contact could probably give you advice how to escape civilization. You should be far more outraged at other, more irrational expenditures unless you want your teeth to look like your average Brit.
Jace Thompson
>paying for retards who refuse to clean their teeth is part of the social contract
Lol
John Scott
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Fluoride effect at approximately normal levels for drinking water
journals.sagepub.com
High dosage effect on bone density
sciencedirect.com
Even higher dosage neurotoxicity evaluation
onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Differential effect on bone density for high vs. low dosage. Low increases bone density, high decreases.
karger.com
Effects of fluoride on teeth decay in rats
Takes like a minute on google scholar to find this
Daniel Thomas
Also experiment is flawed because two rats can be related yet have different a phenotype meaning that one group can be hyper or hypo sensitive to the compound and throw off the results randomly. They try to use genetically identical rats for most studies or absurdly large amounts to negate this effect. Also they can totally accuse you of animal cruelty because in order to get the data you have to kill them and examine their insides. If you don't and let them die of old age etc. then your data becomes exponentially shittier.
John Stewart
Doesn't fluoride exposure/harm follow a hormetic u-shaped curve?
What levels are you looking at?
Isaiah King
it is. until you vote to remove it.
Angel Wright
Bout as cheap as buying some rats?
Daniel Collins
and upkeep them, and pay scientists, and record data, and make controls, and for machines to analyze animal bodies
Gabriel Sullivan
>the unnecessary burden on dentists would be enormous
I don't think enough people regularly need dental work that dentists think they have too much work and are making too much money.
Nathan Russell
Flouride is safe when consumed with water.
Jack King
true, but just another burden on insurance and stuff, you're talking millions of cavities per year probably
Parker Mitchell
>burden on insurance
You can count the amount of people who actually give a fuck about burdening those jews on your fingers.
Jace Rodriguez
ITT: people that have never read a scientific paper in their entire lives
Brandon Clark
>social contract
Is this the 1800s? No? Then gtfo with this shit
Ryan Moore
oh sorry, forgot, you dont pay taxes.
one day you''ll grow up and get it. Or you wont, and go crazy and leave society. Either way, better for all
in general, i like it when the general population's health increases. That's good for a strong society. I dont think anyone would disagree with that. And it's even more important considering the link between tooth and gum health and heart disease.
Zachary Nguyen
Notice how putting 'social' in front of words changes the meaning.
social contract
social science
social media
social justice
Lucas Watson
Because there's no actual evidence to suggest fluoridated water is dangerous to our health
>inb4 B-but ALEX JONES SAID
William Morgan
wow user. I'm sure this experiment has never been done before, certainly not on much larger scales and with more rigorous methods. I will be eagerly awaiting your results