Are there any academic or philosophical refutes of psychedelic drugs?
Whenever somebody starts talking about tripping I'm immediately skeptical. It's very narcissistic, they're living a fantasy where they carry secret knowledge that gives them access to broad concepts like "the spirit realm."
I'm trying to find somebody who approaches psychedelics with a critical eye. Any academic seems to be a fringe figure who treats them with religious fervor.
I've used acid and mushrooms in the past so don't be hit me with that "bro just trip more lmao." I spent a year doing coke until daylight. It taught me about a lot about myself but in the same way that a death in the family or reading a great book could.
It is not a subject that is worthy of academic or philosophical consideration.
Julian Garcia
psychedelic use is a tool or an aid for mysticism. theyre not the same thing
Henry Myers
That's what I found when I started looking for literature. It's a hobby that a subset of people envelop their whole life in and everybody else just ignores it. Best I found was Martin Buber's riposte on Aldus Huxley's books.
Justin Gray
>secret knowledge How is it secret when you can trip as well, and most people who like psychedelics would encourage you to try it?
Many of the pro-psychedelic people if the 60s were actually quite responsible in their recommendations for use. Even McKenna who is widely regarded as one of the most "out there" psychonauts actually encouraged occasional use.
Anterro Alli has written some cool books expanding on the eight circuit model of consciousness that Leary and Wilson developed, only with programs not requiring use of drugs.
Carter Lewis
But they make claims on the same subjects like metaphysics and the role of the individual.
Noah Johnson
Dude just fuck off. Its just a fucking drug, if helps you find personal meaning then it helps you find personal meaning. Are you really such a fucking autist that you obsess over someone elses subjective experience?
I mean, what kind of criticism are you looking for besides "its just a drug induced experience"? Obviously its just a drug induced experience.
Carson Nelson
Maybe stop hanging out with morons?
Kayden Cooper
Don't get so triggered, I found articles for the beneficial use of psychedelics and wanted to know what the counter-position was because I have trouble digesting the idea.
Grayson Morgan
that means youre reading a very narrow view of the drug world. just because an author doesnt have a beard and mandalas shtick doesnt mean they arent mystics.