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Can someone/sci/entifically refute this post?
Anthony Nelson
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Benjamin Hall
people just got bored, is all
Owen Perry
God is unfalsifiable. Thomas Aquinas's 5 ways do not prove anything other than that something was first, which is really a no brainer anyway.
Nicholas Lee
But the first thing must, by definition, be supernatural. That has no bearing on whether it is a personal God or not, just that it scientifically superseded nature as we know it. Thus supernatural in the most technical sense.
And I'm more talking about science-minded people and their refusal to admit anything might even possibly be be metaphysics
Brody Torres
I've never gotten the context of that image
Jose Hernandez
God isn't EVEN unfalisifiable, it's a completely vague and undefined term that doesn't obviously MEAN anything at all. Ask three different theists for a definition of God, you get three different definitions. No way you could even begin to devise a method to falsify such a nebulous term, it doesn't even reach the level of pseudoscience and bunkum, it's just infantile waffle.
Logan Lopez
You can't prove that. We have no reason to reject a physical, NATURAL cause for the Universe, sure it doesn't fit into any existing model of reality but guess what? Neither does God.
Zachary Green
He's not wrong but it's a double-edged sword. If atheists are actually believing in a supernatural event then theists are actually believing in a natural event if the same event can be explained both ways.
In the end it's just semantics. People who want to call the first thing to happen God usually want to draw moral consequences from that event, which is a separate philosophical issue.
The pure theological issue of that being the case aside from the moral one though, again, reduces to semantics.
So people are literally arguing over nothing other than who can win the name calling debate: the christfags, the fedoras, or the antifedora edgelords.
All of them need to kill themselves.
Daniel Scott
>5 ways
The 5 ways are part of chapter 2 here dhspriory.org
There are hundreds of other chapters of Aquinas arguing that the first something is God.
Poster is right.
>no reason to reject a physical, NATURAL cause
Plenty of reasons why God is more plausible than a natural cause. Boltzmann brains, fine tuning, 5 ways, etc. No reason why natural is more plausible than God though.