Why is science so hell bent on tearing down the human experience while at the same time furthering it?

Why is science so hell bent on tearing down the human experience while at the same time furthering it?

>Feelings are nothing but chemicals
>Memories aren't actually visualized in your mind
>No such thing as the self, soul isn't real
>No afterlife

What the fuck is the point of being safe from disease or going to space if the main claim of science is that you mean nothing?

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>implying there's credence to any scientific claims about the afterlife or the soul

Stop being a fucking empiricist and start being a rationalist; you'll feel better.

Science is only hell-bent on finding out the truth, no matter how much is hurts. If you'd rather live in illusion, lies and denial, turn to religion.

>>Feelings are nothing but chemicals
You might as well say "The Mona Lisa is nothing but a painting", or "filet mignon is nothing but food" or "the ISS nothing but a box".
Look up protein folding.
You really shouldn't trivialize stuff, Opie, but dismissing something because it's "just chemicals" is the height of retardation.
You'll fly too close to the sun of full-retard and the wax will melt and you'll fall to your demise.

>he thinks science is about the truth
You have to be at least 18 to post here. Science is about predicting the future with as little error as possible, not the "truth".

When is science ever 100% true on anything?

>not the "truth".
>When is science ever 100% true on anything?

So edgy.
Except for "Cogito Ergo Sum", all truth is relative. Get over it.
Technology is proof that science produces relatively practical truth.

Arguing semantics, you fucking apes. You think science is about finding out the untrue then applying it? Get the fuck out of here.

>Technology
>One of the most error prone inventions of the human mind
>Proof of truth

What is more true than the human experience? Math? Proofs?

>Science is only hell-bent on finding out the truth, no matter how much is hurts

>all truth is relative. Get over it.

>What is more true than the human experience?
Go home /x/, yer drunk.

lol no.

science is about observation, and measuring observations. Then we try and draw theories about these observations and the properties they imply, and improve upon those theories constantly. And we test those theories by repeating experiments over and over

pseudoscience gives out surveys

I'm not moving the goal posts.
You are, by implying that truth is absolute.

Isn't predicting the future with as little error as possible just another wording of attempting to reach the truth in our universe, though?

Fuck off, retard.
Go back to church.

Yes, yes, so exactly the same as
>finding out the truth

No. For example, if Flat Earthers could accurately predict the position of the sun, the moon, the stars, and reliably navigate the planet, it would be "true" that the Earth was flat. There would be several unprovable auxiliary theories (which would undoubtedly be referred to as principles or axioms) about distortions in time and space in the "outer disk" (previously referred to as the Southern Hemisphere), and a complicated mathematical model explaining why the Sun isn't visible to everyone on Earth at all times. But it would be a predictive model and therefore "true" for all intents and purposes.

The only reason we abandoned Aristotelian physics is because we could falsify it by creating experiments with very low friction. Good luck falsifying General Relativity.

How is ignorance an improvement? Is it more amazing to feel love not knowing the biochemistry underlying it? Nay. If anything it's vice versa.

Let us for a moment assume God exists. This is better than "nothing" how exactly?

If in ignorance you felt some elation, how can you not feel exhilaration once it is lifted?

It's utterly baffling to me how people can make such absurd assertions as though unaware of the awe of knowledge and the thirst for solving the unsolved.

>If in ignorance you felt some elation, how can you not feel exhilaration once it is lifted?

This is kinda like using a ruler a lot and complaining that turns out everything is either feet or inches.

Science is a tool for prediction, nothing more, it does not provide meaning, in and of itself. Figuring out how something works doesn't provide it with meaning. If figuring out the mechanics of something takes away meaning, that's your own doing, as meaning is subjective, only defined by humans.

Meaning has no place in science, it can neither add to it nor take away from it, in and of itself. For meaning, you need an entirely separate discipline - a different tool. One dedicated not to measurement and logic, but one dedicated to all things as they apply to one's self.

Just because you figure out how a car works does not take away its usage, and this applies to all things, be it your body, your mind. or the universe. Science doesn't tell you not to drive - that's entirely your own decision.

Ladies and gentlemen of Veeky Forums, I present to you, the enlightened anti-fedora.

>This is kinda like using a ruler a lot and complaining that turns out everything is either feet or inches.

I don't know about you but if I were the girl I would be straddling the bottom side

Why do you need these things to be metaphysical for them to have meaning?
Why do you see no meaning in the physical processes that make life?

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I wish I had a second boner.jpg.

Wasn't GR falsified by quantum's spooky action at a distance violating GR's assumption of locality?
There's a huge difference between reality and what people who say science tells you everything about everything think reality is like.

>If you'd rather live in illusion, lies and denial, turn to religion.

Pretentious sounding and reddit spacing. Checks out

>electron
>charge=-1.6e-19C
>mass=9.1e-31kg
>spin=+/-1/2
>meaning=8feels
Finding meaning in physical processes is more delusional than finding god in them.

The universe is cruel and dark, there is no real point in doing anything other than mundane and empty sense of purpose.

Scientists do research to grow their egos, because that's all we truly have...

Stupid human emotions.

Implying all that isn't all the more amazing and mind boggling than "magic" and "god dun did it"

OP: Christfag assblasted by reality. Cannot reconcile his gigantic, throbbing christian ego with his own insignificance.

This thread is cringy, Jesus Christ.

You're proving my point.

Would you rather live comfortably in the Matrix, everly unaware of reality; or choose to wake up in that wicked, brutal world of Machine City?

I'm pretty damn sure most people - including myself - would prefer remaining in the Matrix.

>I'm in high school and don't understand how scientific research proceeds

You've sorta gotta balance the existential crisis out by trying not to think to hard about those things.

>>Feelings are nothing but chemicals
What else would they be? Either they're strictly mechanical and part of the universe, or they're not.

>>Memories aren't actually visualized in your mind
What does this even mean? Of course they are in all but the most asinine definitions of "visualization".

>>No such thing as the self,
Define "self".

>>soul isn't real
Define "soul".

>>No afterlife
Who cares?
"You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the afterlife?"

There is no need for despair. Most of your thoughts aren't even formed, and you don't seem to have an understanding of what you think you think, traced out. Your struggle seems more with formalism and nuance. That the hazy concepts of "self", "soul", "memory", etc, have many different possible natures to ascribe and it can't right just be this amorphous blob of feelings.

Your struggle is with the realization that very little "just is".

humans who would dare to play god must pay steep price for their arrogance, THAT is truth

Almost all the motivations behind a wasted life are due entirely to the fact it is finite. A poorfag and a richfag with the same ideal life will mean the poorfag wastes half his life trying to get rich enough to enjoy life. Almost every aspect of life considered a waste in the typical sense has something to do with not having the time to mitigate your inherited disadvantages or trying to bear with them. An afterlife, by comparison, is typically regarded as infinite and thus grants you the time to realize yourself.

I personally prefer the idea of an infinite afterlife in which your memory is wiped every hundred years or so because eternity would become torturous with total recall, but is still prefer that to oblivion

>Why is science so hell bent on tearing down the human experience while at the same time furthering it?

Some interesting comments here already, but the actual answer to your question is this. Our egos are our defence mechanism. When the developing being, the foetus, baby, or child, usually, faces psycho-emotional challenges which it feels will overwhelm it, creates barriers to protect itself. Emotions and thoughts which it cannot process or integrate in the moment become held patterns of reaction. They give security in the face of uncertainty. When someone with a strongly developed ego defence mechanism discovers science, the apparent certainty it promises is appealing; it feels safe, secure. The person adopts science as part of their ego defence.

Ideas which challenge the belief structures of the ego will be perceived as threatening. This will happen with whatever specific issues the individual has un-integrated, but it will also happen with the systems which the person has adopted as an overlay to their ego; science, religion, a political stance.

To truly keep an open, enquiring mind is far harder than it might seem. The instrument with which we try to make sense of the world is itself fractured and compromised by its differing needs; as OP says, furthering human experience, but at the same time denying those aspects of it which would challenge the structures of the ego. And none of us are free of this dynamic.

Its true fuck off

Science is uncertainty personified though. The central heart of it is to assume what you believe to be false.

Weak defense from that, following your logic.

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>Science is uncertainty personified though. The central heart of it is to assume what you believe to be false.
Of course. But we don't come to realise that until we have a science training. And by then, the investment in science as a source of safety is too much for many egos to overcome. And science results are assumed to be cast iron truths, rather than a pillar sunk deeper into uncertain sands, as Karl Popper put it.

>tearing down the human experience
crymoar, bitch

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