How many of you were told you were talented/intelligent when you were young?

what efforts have you made to make friends?

>Literally came on my own face the other day, but I'm pretty good with electrodynamics
Me desu

I have made some efforts but for the past few months everyone I meet including me is rather busy. We all have research and work. So I've been busy too.

I met this girl for a month who was into computer science and we talked about that ( she was interested in biological computers ) but she spends so much time with her boyfriend and our class is over.

And the other group is my family but they didn't finish middle school... so everything I say goes over their head. Or they don't care.

go to a bar or join a club or something. i presume you have a hobby.

i go to this pub 2 days a week trying to meet people and make friends. i'm new in town and moderately anti-social, but i made a commitment with myself that i'd make an effort to make friends

>i go to this pub 2 days a week trying to meet people and make friends.
I'd recommend against trying to fit in with the normie pub happy hour and Friday night drinking crowd if you're on the spectrum. It ended in disaster for me.

Hey, I'll have you know some of us still live in a fantasy world.

thursday and saturday. they're the "free drinks for grad students" nights
there are a lot of clubs nearby, and this place isn't one of them. i'm hoping the normies all segregate themselves

>it ended in disaster for me
want to atlk about it?

Well I'm finally 21 so I guess going to a bar would be a good place. I'll try that.

I'm part of a small astronomy club (a group of 4 including me) and we're going to the eclipse but other than that no other clubs open yet.

I play piano and guitar as a hobby. And I'm rare occasions if I have time go hiking like once a month. Maybe I'm just shit at socializing.

Even then, I kinda still feel depressed. But I'll keep trying, maybe my last year will be good

>want to atlk about it?
Let's just say after I became a regular among the regulars they started bullying me in that horrible snarky way and I didn't realize right off the bat because of my asperger's. They also abused my generosity because I was always willing to treat people to drinks. The women were especially vicious. I felt like that retard the neighborhood group of kids keeps around as a punching bag

Your mileage may vary but keep in mind i have literal asperger's. I drink alone now polishing a bottle of vodka on the weekends while I play Minecraft.

>were (you told) you were talented/intelligent when you were young?
Yes

>Now that you are older, do you still think you are talented?
Of course, I'm a mad scientist fated to bring chaos and destruction

Yeah I was told that stuff.
Got A's in HS and didn't try.
I kinda started to ignore the blind praise; it seemed like someone was setting a low bar for me.

I guess I'm talented.
I know that self-evaluation is dependent on the skill of those around me.
I might just be a big fish in a small pond, unaware of the bigger fish in the ocean.

that's rough, but i don't have it that bad.
i'm also an aspie, but i'm more anti-social than socially inept.
i don't like spending time with people, unless i arbitrarily do.

buying people drinks doesn't seem like something i'd do for strangers, or for people who are nice to me

i'm sorry you had such a bad time

just work hard, m8

I don't ever recall someone calling me talented or intelligent before I was 17. I've always understood things relatively easily, could always make connections that made things make sense, etc. Pretty sure that my parents and teachers realised that and let me do my thing.
I'm also pretty sure that's why I have never had the motivational drive to do anything meaningful. I never had anyone pushing me to be better.

Yes.

No.

>do you still think you are talented?
Yes.
But the effort required to exhibit the full scope of my talent is often not worth it.

I'm in the same boat, I've met a few but god were they dull, only three people I've known were good at conversation and loved to talk science, one's dead, one's on the other side of the country and the third broke my heart. So now I'm surrounded by idiots, in fact i chose to surround myself with idiots. I figured I'd be a tutor and that way I would run into people who were actually interested in the topics we'd be discussing, but nope, mainly just people who try to get me to give them the answers to their homework one way or another.

yea basically this

I believe I'm talented, at least compared to others, I've seen a lot of really dumb people. I've been getting told how smart I am my whole life, I hate it honestly. I believe I'm intelligent, and have been told so by a lot of people, plenty of whom I admire, but it feels fake, it feels like one of those things you tell anyone now because it would be an insult otherwise, because god forbid someone's special baby isn't Einstein. Lying to people makes me sick, you don't have to call them dumb, but don't delude them, and now it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if someone is being sincere or not with their compliments, and I hate it.

yeah

In kindergarten i was showing interesting thoughts to the caretakers and they kinda told me im intelligent. Then first year in school got bullied so bad i wanted to kill myself. Till graduation every mathe teacher told me i could achieve more in maths if i was just more motivated. It became a thing where i would just sit there waiting for there "you smart do stuff" talk to be over so i could go and be able to keep being miserable at home. It became like a bad meme telling me im talented. Finished school went into psychology and intelligence research really throwed me off as the girl i was dating was supposed iq 130+ . Made me question what counts as intelligence and what taltend means. yada yada

conclusion: i might ve talent to be talented but years of neeting around because life is fucked up ,especially me, eats that possibility up like a pack of crackers

>So now I'm surrounded by idiots
oh you arrogant children

My aptitude test scores were the highest in the school in every subject, reading in particular the highest any of the teachers had ever seen. I was literally known as the "smart guy" my entire childhood. Problem is, growing up I lived with my mom, who's easily the laziest person I'd ever met, and a negligent drug addict. Coupling that never having to exert any effort to succeed has made me almost as lazy as her. About 2-ish years ago I got the highest score in my school on the ACT (33, honestly was disappointed in my math score of 29), and I've literally never studied nor prepared for any test in my life. Ended up graduating early just before I turned 17, with a 2.8 GPA made up of hundreds on tests and zeroes on actual work. I then proceeded to spend a year and a half doing literally nothing.

I'm mad at myself for never learning how to put in effort, more than anything. I got all kinds of fucked from my sheer laziness and it's already biting me in the ass before I even hit my first semester.

So yes, I was talented, and yes, I still am, but that doesn't mean shit since I'm also wasted potential incarnate.

>inb4 "quit blogging faggot"

To whoever might tell me that: blame OP for asking me to blog, before I send one of my boys in boots after you (pic related)

The whole concept of 'talent' is a little shaky to me, I simply do not believe that people are built with a 'talent' for a particularly unnatural ability (such as CS) as knowledge cannot be passed down through genetics. IT's all learned.

But in answer to your question, I thought I was really smart. More comprehensive and enlightened than my peers. Now I'm an Uni I feel like i still am smart, but with knowledge of others' endeavours make me feel like I'm not up to my full potential. I definitely feel dumber than I did 5 years ago, but that's obviously bullshit. I was always average or above average.

I was told I was smart, funny and good looking. They were right.

yes by most everyone i know for my entire life
yes, its the only explanation as to why im smarter than everyone else
the funny thing is they thought i would be successful

That is bizarre. I was under the impression that the norm for high school is that work is generally valued higher than test/ quiz scores. Forget graduating early, I don't think you could graduate at all without doing work at most American high schools.

Talent is real, and very easy to explain. Talent is just being born with a brain better able to perform certain tasks than average.

>You can visualize and remember proportions easily?
You'll be good at drawing, with a higher genetic limit to what you can achieve with knowledge, as with body building

>You can remember entire songs, note for note in your head and mix up existing ones for new compositions all in your head?

You'll be great at music, and making music. And with given knowledge, you'll be able to surpass and stay above without without that genetic gift.
It's really simple, you can teach 2+2=4. But you cannot teach people to make that calculation faster than their genetic limit allows for.

I was told I was really smart but one teacher yelled at me and got really angry because he said I had a lot of potential and I was just wasting it because I don't care and years later I realize he was completely right. Ofcourse, I didn't care at the time so I wrote him and his words off. I still think I have a lot of potential and if I could get my shit together and be productive I could go far. Depression and anxiety are a bitch though but I feel a lot better lately so I'm trying to get back into just everything.

whats bizarre to me is how he received a 29 on the math without doing any work, he must have payed attention in class

>was told I was really smart but one teacher yelled at me and got really angry because he said I had a lot of potential and I was just wasting it because I don't care and years later I realize he was completely right.
just one? if my teachers and principles didnt know i had potential they would have given up on me early and i would have dropped out for sure

>Talent is real, and very easy to explain. Talent is just being born with a brain better able to perform certain tasks than average.

Define 'better'. Do you mean memory?

>You can visualize and remember proportions easily. You'll be good at drawing, with a higher genetic limit to what you can achieve with knowledge,

That can be explained from being around shapes or visualising landscapes through story telling since childhood. A person without any knowledge of geometry would be much worse off visualising geometric shapes than someone who has since birth, same as with imagination.

>as with body building

Physical genetics is true of course, we're talking about talent through knowledge.

>You can remember entire songs, note for note in your head and mix up existing ones for new compositions all in your head? You'll be great at music, and making music. And with given knowledge, you'll be able to surpass and stay above without without that genetic gift.

You're talking about memory. Memory =/= intelligence. Also, music is learned. The comprehension that virtuosos exhibit in music composition is due to the comprehension that certain notes sound good when played with others - its not like they possess some unknown knowledge...

>It's really simple, you can teach 2+2=4. But you cannot teach people to make that calculation faster than their genetic limit allows for.

Mathematics is not an inbuilt human trait, at all. If you speak around a toddler or child, the child will pick the language will learn it without you forcing them to. Mathematics doesn't, that's why division and integers, loci etc is so foreign to the majority of people.

my man, remember when that normie talked about sports and you didn't even care?

its the same thing. Sadly, people rarely shares the same interests.

It's a long story but after that was when I entered HS and I was rarely even there before I dropped out so it's not like I did any tests or turned in any work. I spent more time in the lunchroom talking with my friends than in the classroom so not much time to show my "potential" to teachers. When I dropped out and got my GED the "teachers" there were all over me and ignored the "dumb" kids which I actually thought was pretty fucked up but they acted like I was their pet and praised my old test scores etc. Ofcourse, after I acquired the GED I just started isolating and never leaving the house so they were probably better off spending their time on the other students anyway.

Also not every teacher gives a fuck. There are plenty of kids with potential that don't have teachers kissing their asses for whatever reason and plenty of kids with potential do indeed drop out. One does not automatically equal the other.

yes, mainly by my parents and either maths or science teachers. high performance in those subjects with little effort led me to fall for the smart and lazy meme

compared to primary/high/6thform schoolmates, yes
at uni im definitely above average, but not particularly talented, I was lucky enough to spot this early on

Things are not so finite with people, there's a lot more variables than just ''learn this and git gud'. Not even acounting for the genetics that aid ambition, hard work or the ones that aid creativity. Different parts of the brain process different things, how good they work will set a limit for what you can do in life, in any area or specific hobby.

To assume everyone can perform at the same level, given knowledge and time doesn't make any sense. Otherwise we would see nuclear physicists with down syndrome.

Now that I'm 28 I can feel my intelligence declining slightly when it comes to technical subjects, but I feel I have become more intelligent with non-technical subjects. Anyway, I'm about to finish my PhD in engineering and I feel that I've basically shot my wad on getting thru school and now I just want a comfy research job where I don't have to work too hard except for when I feel like it

Frequently.

No.

I honestly think its just down to what people enjoy doing as what they've learned since childhood has influenced what they're good at as adults. If a baby is put in a room with nothing to learn it won't even have a sense of self... just a kernel of hardware like breathing, drinking, fucking... every thing else is kind of like freeware, which is learned.

Had kinda the reverse. When I was younger I went to special ed classes and that sort of shit, everyone thought I was dumb and treated me like it. Finished high school alright managed to even take AP classes and do good on SAT but no one told me I was smart until I was already in upper division. Now lots of really nice, really smart people tell me it. I am good at working with no one else's support or belief but it helps a lot on hard days to know someone else thinks I can do it.

Just remember, you can do it. You are smart.

too smart to be a dumbfuck, not smart enough to play with the cool kids. story of my life.

i wish i would have got a GED
i would be better off getting into college with one of the highest GED scores in my state than with a 2.1 GPA

>mfw too smart to play with cool kids

Pretty much this, it such compliments feel so cheap they feel like an insult. The only oppinion I really value is of a close friend of mine, the others I just smile and nod.

constantly. for some reason i learned how to speak and read at a ridiculously early age. everyone thought i was some sort of ashkenazi prodigy because of this.

nowadays, i don't know if i'd make it in research. in college right now and shit just takes work now. like it seems that sophomore-junior year is the proverbial wall where i have to actually study and tryhard to do well. even if i get A's in my classes I don't know if i deserve it because I don't fully understand the material, I just know how to take tests.

Are you literally me? I feel the exact same way.

impostor syndrome is pretty common i guess. i cope with it by trying to believe everyone plateaus around this level and most people just hide it, but i'll never know.
i've met people in well paying industry jobs that could not for the life of them remember basic shit from undergrad. even my professors had some pretty surprising gaps in knowledge.

>even my professors had some pretty surprising gaps in knowledge.
its impossible not to

I don't even know how to respond anymore, i don't want to return the compliment because half the time I don't believe it, and the other half they're smart enough to see through everyone else's bullshit and might think I'm doing the same.

I cope with it by just reading a lot of material. I probably have about 5-6 textbooks just dealing with axiomatizations of the number systems.

Most people I meet tell me I have an intelligent demeanor. Like "House" or "Sherlock"

What they don't know is I'm just pretending

>girlfriends internet down
>restart router
>make sarcastic comment
>"wow user youre so smart"

I was generally disliked for being smart or was told I wasn't smart. Seemed like if I ever let the cat out of the bag I got hated for it but if I didn't people assumed I wasn't smart. I'm probably just gonna kill myself soon. Idk what planet anyone else is on but round here intelligence is despised

Its too late. You went through puberty thinking you were special, and now it's permanently wired in your brain that you deserve a specific type of attention and respect.

Not even peoples fault. It's your fault

Yeah, many times. The fact that I was surrounded by borderline retards in school didn't help either. That was more than a decade ago though and I basically failed at everything since then so no, I don't think I'm talented.

public education is such a fucking shitshow in north america that they toss out "youre so smart user" like candy because the overwhelming majority of students are essentially livestock in terms of intelligence and behaviour patterns. Its not even their fault as well because the curriculum never challenges them, i didnt realize this until about grade 10 when i was sitting in my AP linear algebra class and the teacher is trying to teach quadratics but doesnt do any concept or theory and just starts spitting out lines and then says k do the excerices and then had a nap in his car. The fucked up part being my HS was fairly highly ranked in one of the better schoolboards in the country

They are. Kentucky has an early-grad program that lets you test out of school, and I was the first in the district to do it. There were some classes where I genuinely didn't know much, and when that happened I did at least some work until I got it down, usually just a few assignments. Overall grades in classes were weighted differently on the teacher's discretion, so I lucked out on some too.
I did pay attention in class, and I learned a lot of it on my own in middle school because I like math. On practice tests I usually got a 33 on math, hence my disappointment in the 29.

Also I missed a single question on English. That sorta pissed me off too, since that meant a 35 and not a 36 on it

...

When I was 12 I was accepted into a college's biochem program because I was doing too well at school. I chose not to drop out of school itself because it was so easy and I had nothing else to do all day. However, I really struggled with the physical requirements of lab work due to a total lack of fine motor control--I could not do some of the work safely, and I think the turning point in my life was when I quit the program instead of trying to fight through it.

When I feel like dying I look at my old notes. One day I'll make my young self proud.

What a retarded bingo card, several squares contradict each other.

? That's basically the opposite of what I said. I am actually really smart. Nobody else could touch me. But it hardly mattered because again everyone around here is flatout anti-intellectual. Anti-science devout Christian rednecks. But it could have been worse. I know a couple Jehovah witnesses whose families literally forbid them from higher education.

I'd say I'm most likely average as far as being gifted goes. Which is why it sucks that people had a stick up their ass about me. I can't help that I got perfect grades in an easy class you failed at and there's nothing I can do to ease your animosity

which ones?

literally me

every single square

>Yes
>I'm not a genius and there's tons of stuff I'm not good at but there's also definetely some things I'm talented at

I'm talented, not genius tier but still smarter than most people.

I got told how talented I was since I was young, as im getting older now and im working with skilled collegues in labs I'd say im average in the set of above average people.

How can you have issues with authority but need constant validation? How can you fear not living up to potential but not try in school/work? How can you have risk taking behavior but quit anything that doesn't come easily? How can you be easily bored but read wikipedia articles in your free time? Why would you always make excuses when you have existential anxiety and nothing really matters anyways?

this desu

>thinking you're a gifted intellectual just because you weren't as retarded as your classmates: the post

More like self-centered arrogant entitled asshole who won't ever accomplish anything because he's insecure and scared of making an error so he just spends his time stroking his ego boner and rationalizing his complete failure of a life plus he'd rather do nothing and complain about shit but the good part is he's going to get what he deserves which is destroying every relationship he cares about and dying lonely without any accomplishment to show for and knowing that nobody will ever miss him afterwards bingo

irony: the post

He's right though. He's obviously projecting, but he's right.

Nah, I grew up in a poor family in the ghetto and most my life I was convinced I wasn't capable of anything, I got into a lot of fights and I was an absolute underdog in terms of academic ability, had a rough childhood and was mentally fucked.I pursued art and became a pretty good one because I wasn't good at anything and didn't start pursuing mathematics until my 20s. People now would call me talented and gifted but the truth is that it was all just work(hard sometimes, easy others) and my willingness to pursue it in earnest. I've met some talentfags along the way in both art and mathematics who's very identity is built on their own perceived genius would try to undermine me because my success highlights their failures. Don't be that faggot, and for those who feel like they aren't capable, just know that you can if you really want to. And if there are no examples than be the first.

>How can you have issues with authority but need constant validation?
it doesn't have to be validation from the authority,. you could think that the wagecuck meme is stupid and that school is broken, but you still want to be validated by some evidence that you're doing something right

>How can you fear not living up to potential but not try in school/work?
fear of failure is a weird thing. if you don't try your hardest you have a way out by saying "well if i did this i would have done better"
the bingo specifically refers to "not trying in work because you think it's pointless," though. if it's for that you kinda just justify not doing the work you care about because that's irrelevant to your potential

>How can you have risk taking behavior but quit anything that doesn't come easily?
risks =/= difficulty. you could take a risk for faster gratification because you don't want to do something the long way

>How can you be easily bored but read wikipedia articles in your free time?
you could still be bored while reading them. you might just not feel like doing anything else

>Why would you always make excuses when you have existential anxiety and nothing really matters anyways?
i fail to see the connection here. wouldn't "fuck it doesn't matter" be the excuse?
the "oh i didn't start strong i may as well take a break then start over" notion is something a lot of people can relate to.

If you think everyone else except you is stupid, you are probably stupid yourself since you are unable to realize that other people might not have the same goals as you and that from their viewpoint their actions might be just as valid as yours

People often tell me that I'm "smart" or "impressive," but it just gives me anxiety because it doesn't feel like I've done merits the praise. What does this mean?

Actually, this accurately describes all the talent fags I've had to deal with in my struggle to not be a nigger.

kek, story time

I'm curious about what type of person would post this. Like nothing in that bingo implies at all that the gifted kid burnout is actually gifted so it's clearly for someone who legit has basically no real gift and was so enamoured by their own reflection they believed their mere presence would alert everyone in the vicinity that they need to give him fame and fortune. It's mocking someone who would naturally be mocked. So how is it that it got someone so riled up? Do you know someone irl who fits this bill? Are you mad because they're dumb and nothing could convince them? Or are they in fact smarter than you and just don't care and nothing you do could ever compare to what they could do? I had a friend in high school who hated me because I was smarter than him but didn't try. But I only didn't try because I thought I was too poor for college. I never intended to be a gifted stoner. I wanted to be le valedictorian and whatnot

My family is pretty blue collar, but my pediatrician and the teachers I had early on all said I was a very bright boy.

Because of their urging, my Mom had me take an IQ test to get into the gifted program. I scored very high (my mom will never tell me because she doesn't want me to be arrogant). I placed into the gifted program and did exceedingly well.

The school wanted me to skip a grade because of my IQ score and how well I was doing in school, but my parents did not want that. The school insisted and eventually my parents relented.

I continued to do very well in school, but then middle school came and it was a pretty bad school where I was the only white kid. I got in fights frequently and only never really ended up getting expelled because I usually scored perfect on the state end-of-the-year exams.

Luckily, I won a scholarship to a great private preparatory high school. My life kind of fell a part after my sophomore year of high school.

I had some cousins who passed away, leading to my mom and dad separating and my dad relapsing into an alcoholic. I had to quit sports and begin working to provide for the family. I often only got 4 hours. I had good friends in high school but never got to hang out with them because how constantly busy I was.

I remember coming back from school one day my junior year when I found my mom preparing to hang herself from a noose. I managed to stop her and then she broke down how she felt like she failed as a mother and how it makes her so sad to see me lost the spark I had as a kid for life and my studies.

I told her that I love her and that everything will get better. I ended up going to a top 5 uni which she was very proud of.

I came back this Summer after a year away and she told me how proud of me she was and how I have that spark in my eyes that I used to have as a child. I don't know if I'm there yet, but I think I'm getting closer there everyday. We're all going to make it anons.

I apologize for the blog post that came this to be, but I never really ever told anyone about this except my guidance counselor that my parents are (not legally) separated.

Not that guy but I tried that and I'm not even on the spectrum. It doesn't go good. I'm pretty sure some people think I'm a heroin junkie and a pedophile. Everyone has an assortment of archetypes in their mind and they gotta fit you somewhere. If you don't go to the bar every night wtf do you do? Surely not studying lol

That made my heart all warm and fuzzy. I had a similar experience with my own mom. Thanks man.

Having witnessed relatives like that be huge failures and human trash, but also recognizing some of those tendencies in yourself and worrying about turning out like that and/or hating some parts of yourself that resemble those relatives you hate.

I was also the stereotypical didn't do shit in high school because it didn't matter to me and still passed without issues despite math teachers telling me I should put work and not waste my potential and friends commenting why the fuck I'm not taking anything seriously blablabla.

Now that I'm studying something that I love and want to make a career out of I'm still struggling each day to put the required work in, and despite people telling me I look calm and relaxed I'm actually 95% pressure/stress/anxiety inside.

Seriously considering getting an appointment to probably get on SSRI's or whatever I need to be more academically functional.

Why can't I do anything but sit here, Veeky Forums?
It would be easy to get up and get started. I have the connections, I have the know-how, and I have the tools necessary to succeed.

So why don't I just do it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome

Grow up emotionally you beta sounding retards

Because tomorrow you could get up easily and do what you want to do. And tomorrow is not today.

???

fake.

In academia, there are disproportionately more impostors than there are qualified people suffering from impostor syndrome.

Impostor syndrome is used as a meme to make the impostors feel good about themselves.