Should these be made mandatory in every school around the world?

Should these be made mandatory in every school around the world?

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No.

Yes.

Yes.

...wait, no. Just no

gay pseuds: Marx, Adorno, Debord
Based Intellectuals: Sowell, Friedman, Pinochet, Steven Crowder

Yes, together with Uncle Tom's Cabin.

I don't know, should they? I haven't read any of them.

all leftists are gay

all right wingers are REAL men

Basic economics only.
There are better books about it but the you would confuse the worst of its detractors by having a black guy say it.

People keep recommending me Sowell's 'Basic Economics'. Is is good?

He's redpilled as fuck. Although I hate black people I respect his writings.

Mediocre. Read a proper textbook or, even better, read the original thinkers.

it is liked by right and left a like kys commie

>or, even better, read the original thinkers.
Could you make some specific recommendations?

>Although I hate black people I respect his writings.

How can you hate all black people if you respect what this one black man taught you?

Just stop posting you fuckin meme. And this is coming from a /pol/ poster too.

I don't respect him as a human being, but I respect the sentiments that he happened to express.

>Thomas Sowell Man Among My Mentor By Mark Jordan Koeff
What did she mean by this?

Classical economics:
The Wealth of Nations
On the Principles of Political Economy and Taxation
Das Kapital

Neoclassical economics:
Principles of Economics (Marshall)

Keynesian economics:
The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money

Neoclassical synthesis:
Economics (Samuelson)

Neoricardians:
Production of commodities by means of commodities

You should probably read about the lucas critique and a modern textbook too.

Retard.

Elaborate?

I always see this guy's quotes on facebook and maybe it's the lack of context but they illustrate him as some sort of retard. Is he as stupid as he sounds or are the admins to be blamed?

>I don't respect him as a human being

Taking this position makes you seem like you're the one who resents real world rationale in the end. You will choose to dehumanize a genuine black intellectual that has imparted real learning to you because he doesn't fit in the purview of your ideological bias. The stubbornness of it is completely divorced from any rationale.

You're not logically consistent.

Read the posts in this thread from the people that like him and reach your own conclusion.

The ideas that he expressed are abstract truths. The vehicle -- him -- through which they were uttered is disposable

You're too stupid to even realize that you were conversely making a case against racial bias in toto with that sophomoric quip.

Stop posting, you're pretty dumb.

>your dumb

not an argument

No, but the line above it is, you shook sped.

go back to /r/books, kid

Stop responding to the /pol/tard.

HAHAHA. You felt so stupid and ineffectual at the least critique of your position that you just gave up and started to meme about Reddit?

HAHAHA.

You are yet to present an argument, instead resorting to pointless name-calling. You're intellectually immature and you're clearly ruled by your emotions. Are you perchance a women?

I like the way you're subconsciously reverting to a more passive aggressive role now whilst hypocritically trying to call someone else a woman. Do you typically act in a passive aggressive fashion when you're made to feel ridiculous? It's a very low energy tactic.

You have played every single post wrong so far and you're still trying to save face. Sad!

>still no argument

Also, my side supports Trump. Your side is cucked

there's this 8ch forum specifically for neckbeards called "classy" or something like that
they talk just like you guys, it's great

I support Trump. And I've already given you my argument:

>The ideas that he expressed are abstract truths. The vehicle -- him -- through which they were uttered is disposable
>>You're too stupid to even realize that you were conversely making a case against racial bias in toto with that sophomoric quip.

Address this lapse or stay prolapsed.

Fuck off, you board policing queef. Hide thread.

Yeah, everyone nowadays from the left to the centre-right loves to hear another neo-liberal Friedman disciple who unironically equates social welfare with slavery and wants to abolish the minimum wage.

Why the fuck are Americans so constantly enthralled by these people wanting to take advantage of the working and middle class? How many times does the Western World have to scream at you that you are a wealthy nation making your lives needlessly precarious and less wealthy by allowing these men tell you that your democratically elected government is the enemy, and not the unelected corporations that these men pander to? How many times can you be swayed by emasculating language like "nanny state" to disempower your government in pursuing policies that prevent capitalism from pushing a race to the bottom in wage rates, labour protections, and environmental considerations?

The economic philosophy of these men in the US has seen the stagnation of wages, evacuation of industry, widening income disparity, and a further debasement of the culture by essentially reducing everyone to thinking that perverse inequality is a virtuous natural order.

The white race is not disposable. There is no equivalence between the two races. If you'd taken the redpill instead of just pretending to like Trump, then maybe you'd of known

that's some good bait

t. entitled millenial who thinks he doesn't have to work for anything because he was raised on participation trophies and 'special snowflakes'.

besides socialism only works until you run out of other people's money

If the really informed ethno-nationalists from /pol/ were to see this board they'd be angry with how pathetically you've tried to speak on their behalf because they'd see as plainly as I do that you're simply not very bright.

That's about all. Peace out.

>if someone disagrees with me he must surely be trolling

>If the really informed ethno-nationalists from /pol/

They're among my best friends. And they're happy I'm spreading the redpill on this cucked board.
Enjoy the next 8 years, sweety

>not an argument

Can you retards stop responding to /pol/ memes already?

>Should these be made mandatory in every school around the world?

No. And I say this as a guy who likes Thomas Sowell.

Why are you trying to trot out that 8 years line at me? I was happy he won, you dope. Does your mind just flip a switch and assume that anyone making you feel like a retard is the enemy of Trump?

PROTIP: It's just because you're kind of a retard is all.

Your just pretending to get away from being BTFO.

Go cry to your reddit support group, left-wing degenerate faggot
Enjoy when Trump breaks down your pathetic ideology and restores the white race and masculinity

t. resentful autist university student who has never had to work a day in his life because he was bankrolled by his middle class suburbanite parents

This His Basic Economics and Applied Economics should be mandatory in Economy 101 courses though, together with Friedman's Free to Choose.

>9098114
you think you're being ironic, but you're really just eating from a trashcan.

>Free to Choose
is this a memoir about the degenerate libertarian swinger lifestyle? is it true that friedman got really coked up while summering in Valparaiso and 'accidentally' had gay sex with general Pinochet?

There are some ethno-nationalists that are smart and rational people.

And then there are some like you: mere hangers on who get shook and meme about Reddit a few posts in because they feel like mental midgets.

On one hand, marxists despise him and would make that kind of bullshit in a heartbeat, no doubt.

On the other, he WAS a jew, so it's not that farfetched.

... what?

What?

Good post

That reply was embarrassing. Not only did you not address anything I said and randomly bring up socialism as if to make yourself feel like you could understand what I'm criticising, you also just demonstrated the same retarded attitude that makes people like you so susceptible to manipulation by emasculating "nanny state" language - with the classic "snowflake" and "entitled millennial" remarks you made. This is all of the same servile attitude desperately dressed up as some sort of masculine American frontiersman outlook on life, that the clever men relish in using to take you all for a ride to lower standards of living.

I unironically love Dr. Sowell.
Race and Culture is one of my faves.
Which of his writings do you feel strongly about?

There's better libertarian writers out there. I think Sowell's works are okay but he tries to oversimplify things and I don't trust his intellectual integrity because some of his views seem at odds with others.

I much prefer people like Bryan Caplan or Tyler Cowen who hold unconventional but at the same time more logical coherent views with better arguments to back them up in their writings.

At the same time, if you really want to learn about supply-side economics, he's okay. Friedman is a lot better though.

Yes: him, Hoppe, Taylor, and Land are my principal influences.

>Keynesian economics

>Marx

>no Austrians

Mcfucking kill yourself.

Except that's not true. The US isn't much of a neoliberal country anymore if it ever was. Saying it is, is just so contradictory to huge facts (like government spending as a share of GDP for one) that I don't know how anyone could logically hold that view.

I hardly hold any pity for the American worker who lives better than 90% of the world while billions in the third world live lives of anguish because they live in countries that don't have market based economies or social stability.

You have genetic defects that cause physical deformities and mental retardation, including (in this case) the inability to form basic logical thoughts.

You are retarded. The thoughts you describe in your post are not the thoughts of a fully-functioning human brain.

Also to add toFriedman argued in favor of a negative income tax and open borders to improve the livelihood of billions of people. It's not his fault that modern conservatives or people like Trump want to destroy the welfare state while simultaneously restricting immigration.

Austrians are more of an internet sect than a serious economic school.

Friedman only argued in favor of a negative income tax as a better alternative to the welfare state though, arguing that the state can never be more efficient than the people - but he also left it clear that not having any welfare state would be the best option, and that charity would cover those who need help like it did prior to being crushed by the welfare state monopoly.

As for open borders, no, he didn't advocate for them. His point was that, before the welfare state, open borders offered labor which in turn improved productivity which in turn upped the standards of living, but that under the welfare state, that concept can't work anymore, as the state can't sustain unattended immigration that gets on the doe.

In other words, whenever (or at least most of the time when) Friedman argued for a leftist-looking point, he was only using it as a part of a longer argument about the inadequacies of state-sponsored welfare. And possibly of the Fed's.

His history of American slavery is one of the best things I've ever read.

youtube.com/watch?v=ao7FKReHYKY

Everyone who graduates from an American high school should have read and studied it. It would prevent 75% of this college campus horseshit activism

>keyneisans
>marxists
>serious economic school

>Yeah, everyone nowadays from the left to the centre-right loves to hear another neo-liberal Friedman

>neo-liberal

Opinion discarded.

>unironically equates social welfare with slavery and wants to abolish the minimum wage.

Welfare is a repulsive parasitism and minimum wages iniquitously distort prices upwards, hinder techno-economic progress, and prevents me from paying my workers what I wilt by means of violent coercion; additionally, a minimum wage prices people whose labor-value is below it out of work (which is also unfair and achieved through violent coercion).

>Why the fuck are Americans so constantly enthralled by these people wanting to take advantage of the working and middle class?

Define 'take advantage'. We can debate The Labor Theory of Value or you can shut up; 'exploitation' is extraction of surplus labor-value or it is nothing.


>How many times does the Western World have to scream at you that you are a wealthy nation making your lives needlessly precarious and less wealthy

Socialism impoverishes a nation whilst capitalism enriches it.

>by allowing these men tell you that your democratically elected government is the enemy

The State is our enemy and democracy --- especially --- is our enemy. I am a neoreactionary: I utterly despise democracy because it empowers authoritarian imbeciles such as yourself.

>and not the unelected corporations that these men pander to?

Private companies are preferable precisely because neither violence nor democracy has imposed its multifarious desecration upon them.

>How many times can you be swayed by emasculating language like "nanny state" to disempower your government in pursuing policies

The State should mostly be maximally disempowered.

>that prevent capitalism from pushing a race to the bottom in wage rates

Caused by The State.

>labour protections

Are an authoritarian infringement upon rights of contract and should be abolished.

>environmental considerations

Pollution is a violation of private property rights and no libertarian is supportive of legalizing it.

>The economic philosophy of these men

Has unfortunately gone unheeded. The rest of your opinion can be discarded.

>widening income disparity

And?

>and a further debasement of the culture by essentially reducing everyone to thinking that perverse inequality is a virtuous natural order.

Inequality is a virtuous natural order.

>Pinochet
lmao

His rant was basically 'Reddit: The Political Philosophy'.

Aryan Logicâ„¢

Hoppe > Friedman.

>Friedman only argued in favor of a negative income tax as a better alternative to the welfare state though

What's wrong with this? Surely an ideal society would try to minimize the amount of people receiving welfare.

> As for open borders, no, he didn't advocate for them

openborders.info/friedman-immigration-welfare-state/

Friedman supported more immigration and a reduction in the welfare state. Many libertarian economists, like Bryan Caplan or Tyler Cowen like a mentioned earlier view open borders as a solution to global poverty which is a far, far larger issue than poverty in the first world democracies.

> Friedman argued for a leftist-looking point, he was only using it as a part of a longer argument about the inadequacies of state-sponsored welfare. And possibly of the Fed's

This is true. Friedman wasn't a leftist, I never argued he was anything close. My argument is that libertarian solutions to global poverty are much better than leftist ones which basically boil down to "huge welfare for everyone in first world countries, fuck people in third world countries" or "huge welfare for everyone everywhere" with no regard for the huge economic drain that would have on the world economy.

...

Also another good idea Friedman had would be to have a negative income tax for citizens while new immigrants would not be allowed to receive this money.

>There's better libertarian writers out there. I think Sowell's works are okay but he tries to oversimplify things and I don't trust his intellectual integrity because some of his views seem at odds with others.

The fuck? Sowell is a great libertarian theorist because --- like Hoppe --- opposes open borders bullshit.

>Bryan Caplan

Kill yourself.

>I utterly despise democracy because it empowers authoritarian imbeciles such as yourself.
>democracy
>authoritarian
nice meme-io you got there friend-io. we should go back to a libertarian paradise like Francoist Spain or the Roman Empire

Nick Land is the only honest/consistent libertarian writer

What's wrong with open borders? Conservative estimates are that it would close to double world GDP. In addition, the actual surge of immigrants would not be great enough to cause destabilization of any system, besides perhaps the welfare state.

>Austrians

>internet sect

>not a serious economic school

You are a fucking retard. Austrians are literally better than any other school.

>His Basic Economics and Applied Economics should be mandatory in Economy 101 courses though,

If you're going to mandate an econ textbook, I'd go with Mankiw's Principles of Economics.

I disagree. My favorites libertarian writers are Bryan Caplan, Michael Huemer, Scott Sumner, David R. Henderson, Tyler Cowen, Alex Tabarrok, Greg Mankiw and David Friedman.

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>You are a fucking retard. Austrians are literally better than any other school.

Austrian economists are a bizarre ideological fringe group who don't believe in math. There's a reason that no respected modern economists (including conservative ones) are Austrian school.

let me guess, you have asthma and wear bowties unironically

Marx provides answers to questions raised by the classical school and refines most of their ideas, so he is a necessary read after ricardo. Keynes is objectively a main pillar of economics and not mentioning him would be ridiculous (complaining about including keynes in a basic economics reading list tells me that your whining is motivated purely by ideology, regardless of whether you like him or not).
Austrians main contribution to economics was probably their role in the rise of marginalism, but even if i was to include a marginalist i would chose walras, who is far more relevant than jevons or menger. But there's no point since marginalism is included in marshall's work. Aside from this, i don't see any reason to include austrians, most of their work would fall under "economic philosophy" rather than "economic theory" category (at least since sraffa destroyed hayek). Modern austrians are generally a bunch of drooling retards that only know of economics through memes and blogs (and are a disgrace to early austrians, honestly), which is probably your case.

Sorry that the lack of your meme internet school triggered you.

>Francoist Spain

Was demotic.

>Roman Empire

Libertarian compared with most places now.

no my internet sect is bestest

Nope. Less of a sperg than most people on this site actually.

>What's wrong with this?
Nothing at all. I agree with him. I was just clarifying.

But you were talking shit here when you should understand that, as long as there's a welfare state, immigration must be restricted. If, after restricting immigration, you want to go ahead and little by little dismantle the welfare state, one step which might be Friedman's negative income tax, that's cool. But what Trump is doing in the Mexican border is a right thing.

And I say this as a central american living in central america.

Again, Friedman himself believed the negative income tax was a bad idea. It was just a better idea than the current implementation of the welfare state. His idea was to go from regulated stamps with its baggage of bureaucracy to hard cash, and then when shit got better to eliminate the welfare state almost entirely. As well as stuff like the minimum wage, which is also something that can't coexist with open borders.

Only then do open borders make some sense. But not before. Not even a little.

>What's wrong with open borders?

If you're unironically asking that then are literally --- not figuratively --- retarded or astonishingly ignorant. You stupid fucking fuck.

>Bryan Caplan, Michael Huemer [...] Alex Tabarrok

>all open borders shills

You need a bullet, you absolute dumbfuck.

There's a pretty large literature on the benefits it would have on combatting global poverty. Only a stupid fucking fuck would ignore a post about it, not give any details why it's wrong and then get upset over it.

I hate it when people say "read the original thinkers" about a technical field like this. You wouldnt recommend someone start studying physics with Aristotle or Copernicus. You'd recommend a modern textbook.

I wanna let you in on a red pill. Despite the ((media's)) lies, Stalin was actually demotic libertarian capitalist.

Are you from /pol/ or something? Before you say no, I know the answer is yes. Why did all of you come here?

What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.

You would if physics was a proto or pseudo science and new physics schools competed with old ones instead of replacing them.

>Austrian economists are a bizarre ideological fringe group who don't believe in math.

You don't understand Austrian epistemology at all. Opinion discarded.

>There's a reason that no respected modern economists (including conservative ones) are Austrian school.

Because they are shills or retarded.