I am torn between whether or not this is complete bullshit propaganda, or if it's factual. What do?
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Nolan Edwards
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Ian Walker
why don't you read the scientific papers for a start?
notrickszone.com/skeptic-papers-2017-1/
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Cooper Kelly
Factual.
But like anything, it's used by ignorant marketers to make stupid trends and sell unrelated products and do anti consumer moves with GW as their shield.
Same with environmentalism.
Both are factual and very important, but the general public is literally too stupid to do things right.
Remember thst these people are mainly millenial hipsters that "love green movments" , hate consumerism, but yet they drink starbucks and have the latest iPhones
Ian Ross
I have read way too much I think most of it is bullshit, i can't be sure when there are plenty of papers that show contradicting trends. both sides seem to be completely biased towards confirming their position
Leo Long
both. Climate change is factual and humans are somewhat responsible but there are other factors at play and it's hard to isolate a single parameter to measure its effects. It's a very normal thing that has been happening since the beginning of the earth and the rising sea levels and temperatures increases are not really worrying as "scientists" try to make everyone believe
David Cruz
The fact that everyone in the media shills this topic really hard makes me suspicious that this is all just a meme intended to get people to do shit.
I understand that humans do contribute to climate change, I just don't think this shit has any real significance
Christopher Morales
Well, it's a pretty big deal.
CO2 levels are at 400PPM now, highest in any registered atmosphere probe from different geological layers.
And we know that the Greenhouse effect exists, and the temperature rise is also true.
Now, this trend picked up starting at the kndustrial revolution.
We have all the evidence to point that human activity is damaging the planet in many ways.
Media is shit. Period. The government should enforce much harsher measures, but they're pussies because they want to branwash the people into voting for then again. Instead of what the earth needs.
Jacob Ward
It is in fact true that the earth is warming in a faster hate than ever, and it seems really likely that the Humans play a large role in that heating.
Models considering only natural sources of greenhouse gases can't explain the rate of reating, but modeling with human contributions does.
Also, there is industrial propaganda to try to deny or make climate change seem less worrisome than it is, the same doubt mongering happened when:
1. Cigar vs Cancer relation was first found, the Tabacco industry made a massive propaganda campaign to discredit that.
2. Sulfur polution causing acid rain - same thing again
3. Second hand smoking causing cancer- same thing again
4. The Hole in the ozone layer was linked to CFCs - same doubt mongering again
And now it is climate change that is being merchandised against, and the people behind this are basically the FUCKING SAME (ex: Fred Singer)
You can find sources for this, and more about this stuff, in the great "Merchants of Doubt" from Naomi Oreskes, a really interesting and revolting book
Daniel Ortiz
>anti consumer moves
>marketers
Wtf? Give me an example
Aaron Green
> I just don't think this shit has any real significance
The significance is buried beneath the rhetoric. Two of the biggest problems climate change will bring forth is a series of paradigm shifts in how diseases will spread and the reduction of accuracy in weather forecasting by rendering collected data years past useless due to more radical patterns.