How is the Blank Slate so popular?

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Whether you choose to become a scientific "racist" (assuming you only care to discriminate on "race" alone) like the greatest scientists of old, or adopt an egalitarian value of attempting to re-mediate the environment of those who are below the mean on intelligence is up to you; but it's worth noting that Charles Murray's controversial research on IQ pointed out the obvious that unless the individual has chromosomes which encode for high intelligence, no matter how much you try to change that with environment stimulus, the person will never be as intelligent as you hope.

For the same reason that people who go to the gym, once they get shredded and lean, will always have different physiques, due to muscle insertions that are determined by their genes.

Same reason why we can't all look like Arnie or be a brain box like Einstein or Feynman; but you can be yourself :)

>"conflating "biological differences" with "racial differences""
"You'll never be taken seriously until you can understand the distinction"

He told you dawg, y u no listen?

The top left one is very sexy.

Because the right wants to deny science. They deny the connection between genetics and performance while substituting their own concept of "race" for genetics. Because muh feelings.

Because the last time academia claimed there were innate genetic differences across human races, politicians abused it to do bad things. As part of getting a doctorate applicants are told to avoid doing that because it will do damage to society as a whole.

>Is a Nigger or cuck

It looks like a 12-13 year old

Our knowledge of genetics is still extremely small in the grand scale of things. Doing massive polices and decisions around something we barely understand and enacted by barely scientifically literate people would ass fuck so many people.

>underfund poor schools because the people in them are low yield IQ kids. deliberate bar their educational choices and economical redline them into reservations in rural/urban areas.
>30 years later
>Ooops we were wrong turns out the material we based our polices on was a complete meme.

You really gonad want to be the guy having to say sorry for ruining so many peoples lives.

This feels like a cop out. We know 100% scores/outcomes/crime are different right now. Are we genociding low test scorers? Are cultures that admit genetic differences like Japan or China committing genocide right now?

The nazis didn't use any real scientific analysis to decide to kill Jews. They just used it as an excuse to do what they wanted.

So instead we need to continue to waste trillions of tax payer money into useless ventures which have been demonstrated failures, such as Head Start, just because?

So where are all the Nigger and Beaner Womyn with STEM degrees even after decades of pandering with White Guilt?

Have Lefties ever had a plan that wasn't throwing money at something?

Despite there being a higher correlation with genetic inheritance than environmental adaptation with subjects of behavior and intelligence, it makes people angry to consider that they are naturally born lesser capable than others. That actually is racist, honestly, but emotions shouldnt be influencing research of the human mind and body.

The problem with talking about it is that socially it's just a bad move all around. You need to be capable of reflecting on the feelings of someone else in what is essentially a Gattaca kind of situation. The human mind is incredibly reactive, and telling someone they are just straight up a worse human elicits fear, doubt, a loss of confidence.

Why be mean about it?

Having a better ability to grasp reality is never a bad thing.

well when they start collectivizing, seizing assets, murdering "bourguosie" and so on

>it makes people angry to consider that they are naturally born lesser capable than others
Noone has any issue with admitting they aren't a genius

It's only when you start talking about racial averages that it becomes a problem, because it flies directly in the face of the marxist political agenda. That is why they have brainwashed people in the west with decades of "anti-racist" nonsense.
They are all fucking communists

You think anyone in the third world cares about stuff like "racism" ?

Can someone fire the fucking writer and editor from op's article? There's a difference between articulating an argument against an ideology and fucking scribbling a word on the wall a hundred times.

Even the average /pol/tard has demonstrated better control over their own vocabulary when formulating a argument.

Also the popularity of the blank slate is born of Ancient Greece philosophy and spread by the West's branching view of individualism. It's also a derivative of the religious concept concerning the Sins of the Father, where the Father and Son are judge by their own merits/ faults.

>You think anyone in the third world cares about stuff like "racism" ?

I am from post communist eastern Europe and we dont give a damn about racism here, vast majority of people view western european obsession with racism and forced equality with a mix of bewilderment and pity. Similar thing applies to "communist" China, the word "Baizuo" (white left).

Basically my point is that nobody except western Europe / north America cares about racism much. With possible exceptions in southern America, they were always damn commies through and through.

the word "Baizuo" (white left). is used as a slur

>I don't understand criticisms of race
KEK, ignorant untermenschen like you are why we aren't allowed to do meaningful research on genetic differences between "races"

Hey there ((Steinberg)).

Blank Slate means everything is a social construction and some group people believe could rewrite all social construction to create one utopia.

A general policy of accepting and acting on proven differences in race will be catastrophic for any multiethnic nation. Masses of a less capable demographic ending up with fewer resources with genetics as the accepted cause will face acute unrest. There will be no way for them as a group to get out of the lower classes, eventually leading to widespread violence or worse

It's already too late to change policy in most countries, especially the US

>Leftist failure in action

Even Leftist don't want live close to niggers

Name all the notable Leftists who live around hordes of Tyrones or Achmeds. Or would move to countries of them.

How can genetics determine behaviour if behaviour cannot exist without being learned?

In the uk, nigerians and several other west african ehnicities actually do academically better than whites.

Why do people want to fpcus on changing abatract quantities like iq when instead it should be about changing tangible skillsets or structural inequalities/differences.

>tfw russia is notorious for racism

>doesn't list any evidence. Not even if the Niggers were in any STEM fields. Or if they didn't get any pandering to them.

>can't address how non-North Africa (who aren't Niggers including Egypt) has contributed little to advaning civilization

>ignoring the lack of respectable Nigger countries or high Nigger representation in violent crime even in countries that didn't have major slave populations

Because if you put your neurons to work for even a moment here, you'd realise that oversimplifying people's traits as if they were chemical substances instead of complex computers made to adapt to their environment is absolutely retarded.

Also, if you actually read any studies about mental development, you'd notice how relevant the environment factor is, especially on humans.

Yeah, Niggers would be Kangz N Shieeeet like in Egypt if Whitey wasn't keeping them down.

google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2013/mar/22/white-british-children-outperformed-by-minorities
What are you trying to prove? None of those are actually evidence for genetic determinism.

>doesn't demonstrate they didn't get pandered to
>doesn't say what they score in
>being too much of a SJW to grasp the notion of being elite samples

Try not being a cuck.

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/black-immigrants-to-the-us-and-the-uk-blacks/

>30.7% of native-born whites have college degrees, and 38.1% of white immigrants have degrees.
>16.5% of native-born blacks have college degrees, and 25.8% of african immigrants have degrees.

vdare.com/articles/yes-african-immigrants-do-better-than-american-blacks-but-it-wont-last

thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/16/racism-in-university-admissions/

Are you talking about Steven Pinker's "Black Slate"? Hope not as I just ordered it

Black Slate book begins anti Black Slate.

Black Slate means each human comes as Black Slate to world society write everything on it.

>In the uk, nigerians and several other west african ehnicities actually do academically better than whites.

That is very much debatable, however the reason is that only the very elite of Nigerians go to study into the uk, so you are basically comparing an average white with several standard deviations above average nigerians

Than how do you explain the fact that Blacks commit the most crime in the UK like all the other countries?

If Nigerians are so smart, why do they want to study on whitey's land?

That is because the countries you mention are homogeneous. As a country become more multicultural and diverse, politicians have to talk about equality and racism to gain votes from these different races of people.

Affirmative action/positive discrimination is illegal in the uk.

What are the elites?

I dont think crime necessarily links to genetics.

On another note, i imagine alot of black crime might be linked to gangs. Genetics doesnt create gangs.

Thing is you guys are so convinced you have irrefutable evidence that iq is 100% gene based when none of your arguments or evidence prove this or control for confounding factors.

Sadly, scientist have found the links to genes.

You tell me what you think this is evidence for and how it relates to what i just said.

>Affirmative action/positive discrimination is illegal in the uk.
Actually, it;s not illegal. BBC has been doing it for a while already.

personneltoday.com/equality-diversity/discrimination/positive-discrimination-discrimination/

Niggers tend to live around niggers. Have you ever interacted with a black man who grew up around white people that weren't white trash? They turn into actual human beings instead of violent gangbangers. What the fuck do you think a wigger is? A white person who grew up around the ghetto culture and idolizes it. It's a self perpetuating culture at work, and the idea that you must identify with a group which survives in the west means that even black people away from the hood will feel connected to it because they're told it's their lifestyle. Do you think North Koreans have some genetic predisposition to believing their leader is a deity too?

/SCI / WHY ARE YOU REPLYING TO BAIT THREADS?

YOU ARE BETTER THEN THIS.

>supports liberal arguments
>still uses nigger

Top kek

Where I come from there is a big distinction between someone you call a nigger and someone who is black. The same distinction there is between white trash, wiggers and white people. I'm also not a fan of the perception that black people own the word 'nigger.'

Because the field of Psychology has a combination of a massive inferiority complex and delusions of grandeur. Every time someone convinces them that they need to look at it a different way, they burn all the previous books and start praising the new half-idea as the Word of God. It's been happening since Freud and Jung, but most recently it was Tabula Rasa which said "everything is learned" then Behavioral Psychology saying "everything is just pre-constructed evolved modules."

Nigger and Black are intimately tied to the together user. You really cant' separate the words contamination form it's deep history.

It's like calling someone a Kaffir, even white Africans will fucking despise/fight you.

*connotations from it's history

Apparently BBC does not agree with the Equality Act.

And the bbc employs 90% of all black people.

>conflating all psychology with psychoanalysis
lol
plenty of psychology is nonsense (social psychology) but there's nothing wrong with differential psychology and psychometrics

Politics.

Theres still been important fondings in social psych

Why would a cuck like black women?

>natural selection is the same as artificial selection
Lmao this is why you should stay in your containment board

whats up with the advertisements? i thought the rational behind a tv licence was that adverts would no longer be needed.

publicly admitting that africans are predisposed to criminal behavior will turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy / make the problem worse.

Literally just wrong, the elites definitely do immigrate but it's mainly for all kinds of people who want to give their children more opportunities. It's basically everyone but the bottom 20% or so who really can't afford it

t. Half nigerian

Psychoanalysis is a branch of medicine, not a science.

proof?

I think being realistic actually leads to better results than putting your head in the sand.

Also the implication is that black people will care or even be intelligent enough to accept the fact. Most will just be delusional about it and science/etc can move on with a more accurate world view instead of brainwashing people into falsehoods.

anyone can take an IQ test, look at their SAT scores, etc. That is more accurate than saying there are trends for violence or low IQ in blacks.

The truth of reality should be spread. The imaginary harm caused by it doesn't actually make logical sense. Don't bring up nazis either because the commies killed even more people and didn't have "racism" at the heart of it. Not that nazi theories on race had any science behind them.

i have none, but it's the only legitimate reason i can think of.

It's entirely because many ideologies and feelings are based on blank slate. It's been disproven in literature and by overwhelming studies for a very long time.

The justifications for continuing the lie are based entirely on people not wanting to accept reality because it would shake too much of their current ideology

btw a very interesting note on psychology is that most of the people who espouse blank slate theories also accept and are worried about genetic engineering and embryo selection.

It's a very nice insight into the reality of their beliefs. That if faced with the question say "Should we engineer babies to be more intelligent" they would answer the question with the realistic world view of genetic determinism. They will also shift their views on a gradient as the technology improves.

In the end technology will drive them up against the cliff and the blank slate is doomed to fall to it's death soon.

>It's a very nice insight into the reality of their beliefs.

i have to wonder what goes on in the mind of someone intelligent enough to "espouse blank slate theory" but doesn't see genetic reality. or perhaps they also know it's bullshit, but are on a mission from god to prevent racism of any kind.

This.

I feel like no one really is blank slate but because they oppose genetic determinism they get labelled blank slate

Calling a kid dumb makes them dumb

>they oppose genetic determinism

or vastly underestimate the role of genetics.

So in actuality the far left are my best friend because they create so many racists?

Most of the intelligent deluders just say it's too complex to ever know or something similar. An intellectual cop-out but not clear denial. I don't believe they believe it though, only a small minority and usually the dumb ones believe it. Which leads to horrible decision making usually involving death or very fucked up gender fluid children

Well i dont underestimate the role of genetics but people do use phrases like genetic determinism that is just wrong. And those people especially really dont seem to understand the difficulty in making inferences on this topic

I don't know how you made that massive leap of logic.

>Well i dont underestimate the role of genetics but people do use phrases like genetic determinism that is just wrong.

let's not get into an argument about semantics

I think people are more concerned about how malleable their lives are. And in truth, a highly heritable trait isnt necessarily one that cant be changed. Furthermore, we can say that just because a personality might be shaped heavily by environmental factors in development (hypothetically but maybe an example is feral children who never fully develop), doesnt mean that the trait is easy to change.

calling someone dumb makes them dumb
calling someone racist makes them racist

It was a joke but it seems like I had to lay it out clearly for someone low IQ. By not accepting reality there is a gap of cause that must be filled in. The same people saying blank slate also blame results on racism.

Its not semantics. How can a trait like math ability be genetically determined when you have to learn math first. Its not semantics, its being scientifically honest. Science isnt about being vague.

Genetic Determinism is used to emphasize that genetics matter in the face of denial. If you look at any literature or studies it's obviously not 100% and any logical analysis reveals similar.

If you think Genetic Determinism means 100% prediction or assume that is what it meant then you also do not believe people can be shot in the head unless they have certain genetics. Although with genetic engineering you could imagine a society with much less random violence.

In the end we can compare all environment differences etc but altering genetics would have many times more impact.

>The same people saying blank slate also blame results on racism.

Not really.

Let's compare dogs to humans. Which is going to be better at math or have the capability of developing math?

Does that make it 100% genetically determined as if we had dog genetics then no math would ever be discovered?

These arguments in favor of genetics are far more viable and closer in alignment with reality than blank slate 0% effect.

So black people in a white community just ???

We have had the ability to control environment far more than alter genetics yet all results have had shitty outcomes. Something tells me that when we alter genetics the results will be far more impressive. Look at Obama with 50% white genetics, pretty good outcome.

Genetic determinism is too one sided when you consider that genes and environmental causes are really just different aspects of the same dynamical process. In the sense of determinism or causality you actually cant divide it into percentages. Only in population studies.

And how do you know genetics is more efficient than environment at making changes. You dont have any evidence for this and its nonsense considering you have to learn traits first.

Maybe some people are geniuses and can take to hings very easily and that difference between them and us is genetic. But thats not normal and all it really points out is the relativistic nature of heritability.

Most of them do. Really it's hard to find anything else to blame for the obvious disparity between the races, if you have ruled out a genetic basis.

You are completely ignorant of the literature n this field, please go educate yourself and stop making a fool of yourself.

The dogs things is a fallacy because issues aren't invariant when looking at different scales. You cant analyze the genetic contributions of a trait an animal cannot do. Obviously the dog needs a certain genetic makeup to do math but this isnt necessarily relevnt to looking at within the human population.

Why not actually go for the truth rather than dichotomising an issue and pretending its simpler than it really is.

Obama had an educated mother and grandfather and was middle class.

Him being half white means jackshit you pleb

Sum up to me what the literature says in the language of its statistical mehodology.