21st century race for space

bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b094f595/the-21st-century-race-for-space

>In this film, Brian Cox gains exclusive access behind the scenes at Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin and Spaceport America, exploring what is really happening in privately financed space flight right now.

>From space tourism to asteroid mining, and even dreams of colonies on Mars, these new masters of the universe refuse to limit their imaginations. But are private companies led by Jeff Bezos, Sir Richard Branson and Elon Musk really going to be able to pull this off? How will they overcome the technical challenges to achieve it? And is it really a good idea, or just a fool's errand?

Did anyone watch this? it was pretty interesting. How long do you think until we can go on a trip to space?

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>space race

he wasted his time with a bunch of people that have only gone sub orbital and never done a single paying customer flight.

Musk is going to be on Mars by the time Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic are doing commercial flight.

>paying 300000 dollars for 15 minutes of weightlessness and seeing the Earth from above
It's hard to imagine why would anyone do this desu.

people paids tens of millions to fly to the ISS. and some how the USA and europe allowed it.

musk claims to have 2 people willing to pay hundreds of millions to fly around the moon.

Conspicuous consumption.

People spend money in all sorts of ridiculous ways to signal that they have that much money to spend.

Just finished it, was quite good, didn't even know they were doing this to be honest

dude, there isnt even any substitute to using fossile energy for spacetravel
hasnt been that since the 50s
all you have seen up till now is just "tech" thats being developed with knowledge we already knew decenia back

hydrogen

rocketry is one of the few legit uses for hydrogen as a fuel.

though current hydrogen production is from cracking methane. so the co2 is still produced and you still have to us ea fossil fuel.

though Musk is going to eliminate the middle man and just straight burn methane. since cryo methane has the best balance of specific thrust and energy density.

if i could id do it in a heartbeat

>colonies on Mars

JELLO BABIES
JELLO BABIES
JELLO BABIES

I don't get the current space plans for reaching Mars. Does the Musk really plan on traveling to mars in a ship with a smaller interior than STS, with no gravity, and no radiation shielding, for 18 months there and back? NASA's design isn't really that much better. It's still sitting in an Apollo capsule for a year.

When I was a kid the plans were for big ships that had to be built in orbit, spun end over end all the way there at 1 Mars G, had a refuge inside where all the food and water was stored for when the Sun burped, and had a plasma drive that only took four months to get there. Even the cheap model was two shuttle sized modules that spun around each other at the ends of a long tether, one for the trip there and the other for the trip back.

Now we're going there in a capsule like it's 1959.

?
You go there and stay there, the ship flies back empty
The fuck do you think you need gravity for

>21st century race for space
Spoiler alert: Space X won.

instead of shitposting, why not think of a solution that doesn't involve sitting around with thumbs in our asses
I can think of one, but a dim fucker like you probably cannot

>cryo methane has the best balance of specific thrust and energy density
lol nope

Musk does not plan to use a capsule to go to Mars. Dragon capsule is for near Earth space only. Mars plan is to use ITS:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interplanetary_Transport_System

>'the animals' live to survive, we live to explore
factually incorrect

ONeil Cylinders

>ONeil Cylinders
like the one they drop on Sydney during the one year war?
Operation British!

>virgin galactic

They're still alive?

>Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin and Spaceport America,

Toy plane and toy rockets.

Big fucking rocket and the BFS are bigger.

Damn. Dennis got a hot wife.

>land on Mars with microgravity fatigue
Great. Great great great.